skytribe 16 #1 October 12, 2018 Looks like a service bulletin for reserveboost equipped wings containers. http://skydivewings.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/SERVICE-BULLETIN-081018.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linestretch 0 #2 October 12, 2018 anyone have any more insight to this? Was the bulk of the larks head location enough to hang up on something?....and the change from the larks head location seems odd....and maybe even bulkier. Simple fix but more info would be nice.my pics & stuff! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,046 #3 October 12, 2018 Hi JJ, Quotemore info would be nice My guess is that it might have been too easy for it to come loose when around the metal '0' ring. By going thru the Type 4 webbing, it can lock down tighter. Or it might be something completely different. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,901 #4 October 12, 2018 JerryBaumchen Hi JJ, Quote more info would be nice My guess is that it might have been too easy for it to come loose when around the metal '0' ring. By going thru the Type 4 webbing, it can lock down tighter. Or it might be something completely different. Jerry Baumchen I wonder if someone routed the ripcord through a loose larkshead? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #5 October 12, 2018 Does anyone know about the incident that drove this? Did the “hesitation” lead to a fatality?"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blis 1 #6 October 13, 2018 My experience is that after 2 deployments with reserve boost the larks head on the line was really worn (maybe 2/3 of line left), my speculation is that with this alternate attachment method the line is better protected during rsl deployment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 369 #7 October 15, 2018 linestretchanyone have any more insight to this? http://skydivewings.com/contact-us/ Yep. Just pick up the phone.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suha 8 #8 January 13, 2020 A "little" late, but I wanted to provide some insights for everyone, to learn / improve nonetheless. The mentioned hesitation did not leat to a fatality, I am still alive and came out of it with just some bruises... After opening I recognized a flip-through malfunction, which was caused by myself due to packing directly on a field after an outside landing the jump before. In hindsight, I could have most likely landed it without issues, but in that moment decided otherwise as the canopy above me was not "good". As practised, I grabbed both handles with one hand. I pulled my right hand until full arm extension and tried to pull my reserve handle after that but I was unable to pull the handle at all, it did not move even a little. I turned my head to the left and saw my main still attached by something and my reserve pilot chute being out. My first thought was, that it might be that I did not pull the cutaway cable all the way, so I cleared the cutaway cable from the housing completely. But I was still hanging from my main by something I could not identify in that moment. I instinctively grabbed that thing from what I was hanging, tried to pull up and just before I wanted to pull on my reserve bridle to get my reserve out, the hangup cleared. I saw and recognized that I was no longer attached to my main but due to my body orientation and possibly low speed, my reserve could not be extracted. I turned back to my belly and waited for the reserve to come out, which it thankfully did after a moment. Basically my reserve cable and pin was not able to pass the RSL ring to which the extension cord was attached. It looks like the edge of the pin got stuck at the back of the knot of the extension cord and due to the tension locked there. So I was still connected to my main by my reserve cable and RSL. I just grabbed whatever I was hanging from and thankfully the pin cleared the ring possibly due to me grabbing the pin or releasing some tension. Trying to find the root-cause for this incident myself, I also tried misrouting the reserve-cable through the knot, but this does not happen easily. You have to put way more effort in misrouting it, than in doing it the right way. In the end, Sunrise Manufacturing issued this service bulletin for it. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #9 January 13, 2020 Good job on trying to sort things out until you got that reserve overhead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryguy1224 11 #10 January 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Suha said: A "little" late, but I wanted to provide some insights for everyone, to learn / improve nonetheless. The mentioned hesitation did not leat to a fatality, I am still alive and came out of it with just some bruises... After opening I recognized a flip-through malfunction, which was caused by myself due to packing directly on a field after an outside landing the jump before. In hindsight, I could have most likely landed it without issues, but in that moment decided otherwise as the canopy above me was not "good". As practised, I grabbed both handles with one hand. I pulled my right hand until full arm extension and tried to pull my reserve handle after that but I was unable to pull the handle at all, it did not move even a little. I turned my head to the left and saw my main still attached by something and my reserve pilot chute being out. My first thought was, that it might be that I did not pull the cutaway cable all the way, so I cleared the cutaway cable from the housing completely. But I was still hanging from my main by something I could not identify in that moment. I instinctively grabbed that thing from what I was hanging, tried to pull up and just before I wanted to pull on my reserve bridle to get my reserve out, the hangup cleared. I saw and recognized that I was no longer attached to my main but due to my body orientation and possibly low speed, my reserve could not be extracted. I turned back to my belly and waited for the reserve to come out, which it thankfully did after a moment. Basically my reserve cable and pin was not able to pass the RSL ring to which the extension cord was attached. It looks like the edge of the pin got stuck at the back of the knot of the extension cord and due to the tension locked there. So I was still connected to my main by my reserve cable and RSL. I just grabbed whatever I was hanging from and thankfully the pin cleared the ring possibly due to me grabbing the pin or releasing some tension. Trying to find the root-cause for this incident myself, I also tried misrouting the reserve-cable through the knot, but this does not happen easily. You have to put way more effort in misrouting it, than in doing it the right way. In the end, Sunrise Manufacturing issued this service bulletin for it. Why did you drop your cutaway handle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suha 8 #11 January 14, 2020 11 hours ago, Bryguy1224 said: Why did you drop your cutaway handle? I did not want to be limited to just one hand when I was trying to get out of the situation alive... 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sedsquare 14 #12 January 14, 2020 15 hours ago, Bryguy1224 said: Why did you drop your cutaway handle? Seriously? After all the jumper was dealing with, let's not encourage people to worry about their handles. Saving your life is more important. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 153 #13 January 14, 2020 16 hours ago, Bryguy1224 said: Why did you drop your cutaway handle? I took this as sarcasm... (hope so). To the jumper in question... good job. fight for you life... you might just win. JW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryguy1224 11 #14 January 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Suha said: I did not want to be limited to just one hand when I was trying to get out of the situation alive... That cutaway handle damn near cut off the reserve PC. That could of made the plane crash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SethInMI 145 #15 January 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bryguy1224 said: That could of made the plane crash. this is one of the most ridiculous things I have read in incidents. you are saying if you drop your cutaway handle it could get wrapped around the plane's propeller and cause it to crash? smh. <edit>ok so Bryguy1224 was just making a joke. I don't know the poster at all and got sucked in.</edit> Edited January 14, 2020 by SethInMI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 261 #16 January 14, 2020 <s> Clearly no need for a Sarcasm tag in this thread. <\s> 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,901 #17 January 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, pchapman said: <s> Clearly no need for a Sarcasm tag in this thread. <\s> Sarcasm never works in this forum. It always goes straight over too many heads and gets outraged comments going. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dudeman17 267 #18 January 14, 2020 Which reminds me - Anyone done any cat chasing lately? I used to throw my cutaway pillow at them in freefall to distract them so I could grab them without getting scratched. Sorry... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryguy1224 11 #19 January 15, 2020 4 hours ago, dudeman17 said: Which reminds me - Anyone done any cat chasing lately? I used to throw my cutaway pillow at them in freefall to distract them so I could grab them without getting scratched. Sorry... Everyone knows vets always land on their feet...and survive.....try another joke....that one sucked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dudeman17 267 #20 January 15, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Bryguy1224 said: try another joke....that one sucked I said I was sorry. Edited January 15, 2020 by dudeman17 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
