Conspiracy Theories....... Tinfoil hat time

[Soule76 0]

Alright folks, grab your tinfoil hats, some non-GMO popcorn, and your favorite alkaline beverage. I want to hear your best conspiracy theories.

I'm a big conspiracy theory nut, so extra points if they are believable (i.e. no "the royal English family is actually lizard-like aliens wearing human costumes and the founding faction of the illuminati). Even more points if you actually believe in your "conspiracy".

So first up:
Dr. Dean Lorich

An acclaimed trauma surgeon (Lorich) was found dead, with a knife in his chest, by his 11-year-old daughter Sunday (10DEC2017) in his Park Ave. apartment, police said.

Lorich was part of the team of doctors sent to Haiti in 2013 to provide humanitarian relief following the earthquake that killed hundreds. He also became the lead whistle blower after learning of the corruption in the Clinton foundation that "funneled billions of dollars in international aid intended for disaster victims" (15% to Haitian politicians, 80ish% to Clinton foundation, and less than 1% to actual disaster relief). A fact that has been left out of most "mainstream" news regarding his death.

Police were originally called to investigate an assault, and found Lorich had bled out with a knife wound "near his heart".

The death was ruled a suicide by police investigators.

Sooo... first off, an acclaimed surgeon couldn't even find his own heart? Also, as a medical professional, he would have known plenty of more effective cut points (femoral artery?) if he really wanted to use a knife, and would have had access to far more efficient means if the ultimate goal was suicide.

Sounds more like someone got "suicided" to shut him up to me...


NOTE: although the first example may be taken as a political post, this thread is not intended to be political in nature. Any conspiracy theories will do (mind control, aliens, etc). Please do not move this to the Speaker box area as those people are crazy (that coming from a conspiracy nut) and I don't want this to turn into another "russiagate" thread.

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Did "THE BEATLES" ever REALLY exist????

Surely by now, you would have heard of that conspiracy theory that Paul McCartney died and was replaced by a body double. Heck, you might even be aware of the claim that there’s a different universe in which The Beatles never broke up. But there’s an even crazier one out there, one claiming that the band was instead made up of clones.

The website The Beatles Never Existed appeared in about 2011, and exists to push one ‘simple’ theory; The Beatles (as they were presented to us) never existed. “This site is here to expose the actions of those who exploited these young men – in whatever form they actually appeared to us – and defrauded us their fans,” the site claims. “It is to defend the honor of everyone involved who did not take part in it willingly.”

“It has become apparent to us in this extensive and painstaking research that there were never just four individual people known as ‘John’, ‘Paul’, ‘George’, and ‘Ringo’ who comprised one Rock & Roll band known as ‘The Beatles’, and rose to fame as the world’s first supergroup,” it continues. “For all intents and purposes as far as we can tell, no one such group ever existed.”

In case you’re getting ready to write off this theory as pure fiction, the website even puts forth four aspects of proof. See, since there’s no way to definitively prove that The Beatles were clones, the website relies solely on four physical aspects of the members; height discrepancies, different eyebrows, ears, and teeth.

The height discrepancies aspect of the proof claims that Paul McCartney managed to grow a number of inches within the span of just a few months. Just look at these photos, people, there’s no way that there’s any other reason for why Paul McCartney might appear shorter in the photos on the left. Case closed, The Beatles were clones.

Image from The Beatles Never Existed showing height discrepancies of the members
But the ‘proof’ doesn’t stop there. No, there’s also the proof that Paul McCartney’s eyebrows have varied over the years, as well as the fact that his teeth and hair changed as well. While we’re not even going to tackle the problem with the proof that comes from McCartney’s hair changing over the course of one year, you might be thinking, “do they have proof that relates to any of the other Beatles?” Yes indeed, in fact they believe that there’s proof relating to all three ‘versions’ of John Lennon as well.

Using photos from The Beatles’ White Album and their 1963 record With The Beatles, the theory claims that John Lennon’s facial figures change so much that the only logical explanation is there must have been up to three different John Lennons used throughout the group’s history.

Image from The Beatles Never Existed showing John Lennon
Image from The Beatles Never Existed showing John Lennon
We’re through the looking glass here, people.

The research that has gone into this theory makes us wonder if this is indeed the work of some individuals who truly believe this, or whether this is some sort of hoax that has managed to gain more momentum than first planned.

If anything though, this theory does help to put the ‘Paul is dead’ theory to rest. After all, how can Paul McCartney have died if he never existed in the first place?

We’re not sure if anyone managed to ask Paul McCartney about this when he visited Australia in December. But if they did, we hope they didn’t take no for an answer, because that’s exactly what a Paul McCartney clone would say.

[akarunway 1]

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'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[jcd11235 0]

Soule76

So first up:
Dr. Dean Lorich

Cursory fact check

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[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

Ok, one of my personal gripes:

These AREN'T 'theories'.

A theory is a proposition (hypothesis) that has been tested and confirmed with scientific proof.

There are still parts of it that are unexplained and not fully understood, but it's a concept that has a high level of proof.

Gravity is a theory.
Evolution is a theory.
Relativity is a theory.

Kennedy being assassinated by the CIA or the mob or the Cubans is not.
Alien technology being analyzed at the Groom Lake test facility (Area 51) is not.
Lizard aliens is not.
The illuminati is not (nor is any of the "secret society world domination" bull shit).
Flat Earth is not.

Although the Flat Earthers have to win the prize for tenaciousness. They persist in this idiocy despite all the evidence to the contrary.
They win the prize for stupidity too.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

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jcd11235

***So first up:
Dr. Dean Lorich

Cursory fact check

Snopes is great and all, but who fact-checks the fact-checkers???

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2016/12/22/the-daily-mail-snopes-story-and-fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/#3992b697227f

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wolfriverjoe

Ok, one of my personal gripes:

These AREN'T 'theories'.

A theory is a proposition (hypothesis) that has been tested and confirmed with scientific proof.

There are still parts of it that are unexplained and not fully understood, but it's a concept that has a high level of proof.

Gravity is a theory.
Evolution is a theory.
Relativity is a theory.

Kennedy being assassinated by the CIA or the mob or the Cubans is not.
Alien technology being analyzed at the Groom Lake test facility (Area 51) is not.
Lizard aliens is not.
The illuminati is not (nor is any of the "secret society world domination" bull shit).
Flat Earth is not.

Although the Flat Earthers have to win the prize for tenaciousness. They persist in this idiocy despite all the evidence to the contrary.
They win the prize for stupidity too.

The good folks at Merriam-Webster might disagree:

Definition of theory
plural theories
1 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena ·the wave theory of light

2 a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action ·her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn

b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory ·in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all

3 a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation

b : an unproved assumption : conjecture

4 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art ·music theory

5 : abstract thought : speculation

In this case, the colloquial term "conspiracy theory" is being used as "abstract thought/ speculation" of an "unproven assumption/ conjecture" for "the sake of argument or investigation".

Also, it's just for fun. People don't actually believe this crap.

Except the bit about the Lizard people. That is 100% FACT!

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

Soule76

Also, it's just for fun. People don't actually believe this crap.

Wanna bet?

There's some really gullible people out there.

Barnum was right.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo