Russiagate

[billvon 2,380]

And now Kushner confirms what everyone now knows - the Trump campaign did, in fact, meet with Russians during the campaign. So that's another Trump lie exposed.

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Kushner contradicts Trump team's denials of Russia contacts
Zachary Cohen
CNN
Tue July 25, 2017

Washington (CNN) - For nearly a year, President Donald Trump and several of his top advisers have repeatedly denied that there was any contact between members of the Trump campaign and individuals tied to the Russian government. But the veracity of that story appears to be crumbling under contradictory revelations from the President's son, son-in-law and the current attorney general.

Trump, Vice President Mike Pence, White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders, former White House press secretary Sean Spicer, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort have all previously denied that there were any contacts or ties between the Trump campaign and Russian government officials or Russians trying to meddle in the election.

Asked in February if anyone on his campaign had contacts with Russia during the election, Trump first said, "General Flynn was obviously dealing. So that's one person." Asked if that contact happened during the election, Trump responded, "no, nobody that I know of." He went on to say, "I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge no person that I deal with does."

Jared Kushner, Donald Trump Jr. and Attorney General Jeff Sessions have all confirmed (on-record) that they had Russia meetings during the campaign, despite all these denials.
The President and his top aides stopped denying that members of the Trump campaign had contact with Russians after Jeff Sessions confirmed in March that he met with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in July and September 2016.
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[rushmc 18]

billvon

***There were crimes committed!
Comey stated as much.

Comey: ""Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

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Hillary got a political pass. Period. She committed multiple felonies as outlined by Comey's statements and testimony.

Comey: ""Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

You are looking pretty silly here.

Not at all.

Comey got fired for a reason (or two)

Comey clearly laid out the crimes she committed.

That is way more than anyone has done in the russiagate fake news bs.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

billvon

And now Kushner confirms what everyone now knows - the Trump campaign did, in fact, meet with Russians during the campaign. So that's another Trump lie exposed.

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Kushner contradicts Trump team's denials of Russia contacts
Zachary Cohen
CNN
Tue July 25, 2017

Washington (CNN) - For nearly a year, President Donald Trump and several of his top advisers have repeatedly denied that there was any contact between members of the Trump campaign and individuals tied to the Russian government. But the veracity of that story appears to be crumbling under contradictory revelations from the President's son, son-in-law and the current attorney general.

Trump, Vice President Mike Pence, White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders, former White House press secretary Sean Spicer, Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort have all previously denied that there were any contacts or ties between the Trump campaign and Russian government officials or Russians trying to meddle in the election.

Asked in February if anyone on his campaign had contacts with Russia during the election, Trump first said, "General Flynn was obviously dealing. So that's one person." Asked if that contact happened during the election, Trump responded, "no, nobody that I know of." He went on to say, "I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge no person that I deal with does."

Jared Kushner, Donald Trump Jr. and Attorney General Jeff Sessions have all confirmed (on-record) that they had Russia meetings during the campaign, despite all these denials.
The President and his top aides stopped denying that members of the Trump campaign had contact with Russians after Jeff Sessions confirmed in March that he met with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in July and September 2016.
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The denials are in the context of election collusion

And at this point I would not believe CNN if they told me Obama was a Democrat........

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,380]

>Comey got fired for a reason (or two)

Yes, he did. He refused to drop the Russia investigation when Trump illegally told him to. So Trump fired him to try to stop the investigation into his collusion with Russia.

>Comey clearly laid out the crimes she committed.

Yes, he did.

"We did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information"

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

>That is way more than anyone has done in the russiagate fake news bs.

Look, I know you are pining for a Clinton presidency; you could post your attacks and your spin and have a good target.

But Clinton lost. Trump, the most dishonest president in modern history, won. Deal with it.

[rushmc 18]

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Russia probe: Democrats block key witness against shadowy firm Fusion GPS

Why?


This is the same firm evolved with the debunked golden shower dossier.
The same firm that worked with the lawyer Trump Jr met with that Obama admin gave a special pardon to come into the country.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/26/russia-probe-democrats-block-key-witness-against-shadowy-firm-fusion-gps.html

Hmmmmm, maybe the why, is obvious.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

billvon

>Comey got fired for a reason (or two)

Yes, he did. He refused to drop the Russia investigation when Trump illegally told him to. So Trump fired him to try to stop the investigation into his collusion with Russia.

>Comey clearly laid out the crimes she committed.

Yes, he did.

"We did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information"

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

>That is way more than anyone has done in the russiagate fake news bs.

Look, I know you are pining for a Clinton presidency; you could post your attacks and your spin and have a good target.

But Clinton lost. Trump, the most dishonest president in modern history, won. Deal with it.

your first assertion is your opinion ONLY.

You second assertion shows how you are sucked into the lie Comey used to give Hillary a pass. Cause the law has noting to do with intent.

And Trump is the most dishonest President.......

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,380]

Based on Trump's angry response to the investigation, Mueller is getting closer to the truth.

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Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, and why Trump is so afraid of it, explained
Updated by Zack Beauchamp and Andrew Prokop
Jul 24, 2017
VOX

President Trump is furious with Robert Mueller, the special counsel leading the probe into the Trump campaign’s alleged collusion with Russia. The president is so angry, in fact, that he’s hinted at a willingness to fire Mueller if he looks too closely at Trump’s personal finances.

Such an investigation, Trump told the New York Times, would cross a “red line” — the consequences of which are left open to the reader’s imaginations.

The rest of the White House seems to be on the same page. Reports in both the Times and the Washington Post have confirmed that the White House is actively looking for dirt on Mueller and his team that could discredit the investigation, or even serve as a pretext to fire Mueller himself.

All of this makes one thing very clear: The Trump team is deeply worried about Mueller’s probe. In the wake of Donald Trump Jr.’s emails — in which he says, “if it’s what you say I love it” in response to an offer of Russian dirt on Hillary Clinton — they probably should be. The latest, and most damning, evidence suggests that the probe will keep going for a while, and that the ramifications could be very serious.
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[gowlerk 1,903]

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This is the same firm evolved with the debunked golden shower dossier.

That dossier is what Putin and Trump were discussing privately with no American witnesses. Putin was laying out his terms for not releasing the evidence.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[jakee 1,254]

***The same firm that worked with the lawyer Trump Jr met with that Obama admin gave a special pardon to come into the country.
Says who?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[normiss 620]

Fake news that gives Trumpeteers wood.

[yoink 321]

rushmc

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"We did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information"

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

Again, I ask you to provide the EVIDENCE that you say you have that Comey presented evidence of a crime Hillary committed in his Congressional testimony. That's what you stated.

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rushmc

*********


Nothing.

Sorry
this statement is a lie.

Please provide evidence of what they found to back up your position.
Comeys Congressional testimony.


So where it it, Rush? Link me to the evidence that directly contradicts him stating in that very congressional testimony "We did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information"

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July"


Because from the above it looks suspiciously like you're the one lying.

[rushmc 18]

gowlerk

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This is the same firm evolved with the debunked golden shower dossier.

That dossier is what Putin and Trump were discussing privately with no American witnesses. Putin was laying out his terms for not releasing the evidence.

Please stop

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

jakee

***The same firm that worked with the lawyer Trump Jr met with that Obama admin gave a special pardon to come into the country.

Says who?

All over all the news sites....

Her visa was rejected and she got what they called a pardon (of which I have never heard of before) so she could come the US

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

yoink

******

"We did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information"

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

Again, I ask you to provide the EVIDENCE that you say you have that Comey presented evidence of a crime Hillary committed in his Congressional testimony. That's what you stated.

:

rushmc

*********


Nothing.

Sorry
this statement is a lie.

Please provide evidence of what they found to back up your position.
Comeys Congressional testimony.


So where it it, Rush? Link me to the evidence that directly contradicts him stating in that very congressional testimony "We did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information"

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July"


Because from the above it looks suspiciously like you're the one lying.

For gods sake dude
Read the transcript or watch it on CSPAN.

She did knowing mail classified material what just one of the claims made by Comey
He also stated Hillary did not tell the truth about emails on several occasions which is a crime

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

Seems Trump has some company

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/26/trump-s-not-alone-congress-digging-into-dnc-ukraine-connection.html

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Prying into such claims, Grassley's letter to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein flagged the “deficient enforcement” of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) and asked why the Justice Department did not require Chalupa to register.

“Chalupa’s actions appear to show that she was simultaneously working on behalf of a foreign government, Ukraine, and on behalf of the DNC and Clinton campaign, in an effort to influence not only the U.S. voting population but U.S. government officials,” Grassley wrote to Rosenstein, claiming that if that were the case, Chalupa would have been required under law to register under FARA.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,254]

rushmc

******The same firm that worked with the lawyer Trump Jr met with that Obama admin gave a special pardon to come into the country.

Says who?

All over all the news sites....
Link one.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 18]

gowlerk

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This is the same firm evolved with the debunked golden shower dossier.

That dossier is what Putin and Trump were discussing privately with no American witnesses. Putin was laying out his terms for not releasing the evidence.

Damn Dude!

I have not laughed that hard in years!

Thank you!

Btw,

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Corrupt Russian and Venezuelan officials benefited from the work of the Washington-based firm that also commissioned the largely unsubstantiated anti-Trump campaign research dossier, according to testimony from a leading South American human rights campaigner submitted to a congressional panel probing the 2016 Russian election-meddling scandal.

Thor Halvorssen, head of the New York-based Human Rights Foundation, said in testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee that Fusion GPS operated a smear campaign against journalists who threatened to expose a multibillion dollar fraud involving faulty South American electric power plants, the laundering of its proceeds in U.S. banks, and a kickback scheme to pay off Venezuelan officials.

“Corrupt government officials in dictatorships would be powerless if they didn’t have cronies in the business world, and these cronies, in turn, would be useless allies without enablers like Fusion GPS, who are eager to whitewash and profit from their crimes,” Mr. Halvorssen wrote in testimony that he also published on Facebook.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/26/anti-trump-dossier-firm-did-work-corrupt-regimes-r/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/26/anti-trump-dossier-firm-did-work-corrupt-regimes-r/

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Mr. Simpson hired former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele in 20015 to compile opposition research on then-candidate Trump. The dossier — which was reportedly sourced from the Kremlin — received initial financial support from anti-Trump Republicans before being taken over and distributed by Democrats. It contained a lurid and largely discredited tale of a years-long Russian effort to elect the former reality TV star and property developer.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,380]

>Read the transcript or watch it on CSPAN.

I did. Here are the relevant quotes from Comey:

"We did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information"

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

No clear evidence. No new conclusions. Period. You lose.

>He also stated Hillary did not tell the truth about emails on several occasions
>which is a crime

Well, heck, if lying about stuff is a crime, then Trump is going to spend the rest of his life in jail.

[rushmc 18]

jakee

*********The same firm that worked with the lawyer Trump Jr met with that Obama admin gave a special pardon to come into the country.

Says who?

All over all the news sites....
Link one.

I just about told you to stop being lazy,
I did use the wrong term however. She got parole not a pardon. (I told you I had never heard of this before)

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The Russian attorney whose campaign-season meeting with Donald Trump Jr. has caused headaches for the White House was cleared to enter the U.S. at the time of the visit by the Obama State Department, officials confirmed to Fox News late Thursday.





A brief timeline released overnight helps to resolve questions over how Natalia Veselnitskaya even had legal permission to be in the U.S. And it also shows multiple Obama agencies were involved on multiple occasions in granting access to the lawyer after she was initially denied a visa.

According to the timeline released by the Department of Homeland Security, the Obama Justice and Homeland Security departments granted her a special type of “parole” to be in the U.S. from September 2015 through February 2016 to work on a court case in New York. After that expired, according to DHS, the State Department issued her a B1/B2 non-immigrant visa in June 2016, according to DHS, just in time for her meeting with Trump Jr., Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

And

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Her unusual entry into the U.S. has sparked a furious round of finger-pointing among federal agencies, and the buck appears to stop at the State Department, with assistance from both DOJ and DHS.



But the timeline released overnight at least clarifies how she had approval to be in the U.S., if not why.

“Ms. Veselnitskaya was subsequently paroled into the U.S. several times between 2015 and 2016, ending in February 2016. In June 2016, she was issued a B1/B2 nonimmigrant visa by the U.S. Department of State,” a DHS spokesperson told Fox News Thursday night.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/14/mystery-solved-timeline-shows-how-russian-lawyer-got-into-us-for-trump-jr-meeting.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

billvon

>Read the transcript or watch it on CSPAN.

I did. Here are the relevant quotes from Comey:

"We did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information"

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

No clear evidence. No new conclusions. Period. You lose.

>He also stated Hillary did not tell the truth about emails on several occasions
>which is a crime

Well, heck, if lying about stuff is a crime, then Trump is going to spend the rest of his life in jail.

Except there is a law regarding the lying she did.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

jakee

*********The same firm that worked with the lawyer Trump Jr met with that Obama admin gave a special pardon to come into the country.

Says who?

All over all the news sites....
Link one.

Don't like the site I linked?

Pick your own

https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&biw=1344&bih=682&q=russian+lawyer+receives+parole+from+obama+administration&oq=russian+lawyer+receives+parole+from+obama+administration&gs_l=psy-ab.3...27947.31319.0.32822.6.6.0.0.0.0.611.1419.2-1j5-2.3.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..3.0.0.hPlJOgj-cps

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,380]

>Except there is a law regarding the lying she did.

There are indeed laws concerning lying - and there were a half dozen politically motivated investigations into her to try to discredit her based on those supposed lies. The conclusion of the investigation?

"We did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information . . .Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

You lose. Again.

Meanwhile, more evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia during the election.

Drip drip drip.

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Sessions discussed Trump campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence intercepts show

The accounts from Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak to his superiors, intercepted by U.S. spy agencies, contradict public assertions by Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Greg Miller
July 21
WaPo

Russia’s ambassador to Washington told his superiors in Moscow that he discussed campaign-related matters, including policy issues important to Moscow, with Jeff Sessions during the 2016 presidential race, contrary to public assertions by the embattled attorney general, according to current and former U.S. officials.

Ambassador Sergey Kislyak’s accounts of two conversations with Sessions — then a top foreign policy adviser to Republican candidate Donald Trump — were intercepted by U.S. spy agencies, which monitor the communications of senior Russian officials in the United States and in Russia. Sessions initially failed to disclose his contacts with Kislyak and then said that the meetings were not about the Trump campaign.

One U.S. official said that Sessions — who testified that he had no recollection of an April encounter — has provided “misleading” statements that are “contradicted by other evidence.” A former official said that the intelligence indicates that Sessions and Kislyak had “substantive” discussions on matters including Trump’s positions on Russia-related issues and prospects for U.S.-Russia relations in a Trump administration.

Sessions has said repeatedly that he never discussed campaign-related issues with Russian officials and that it was only in his capacity as a U.S. senator that he met with Kislyak.

“I never had meetings with Russian operatives or Russian intermediaries about the Trump campaign,” Sessions said in March when he announced that he would recuse himself from matters relating to the FBI probe of Russian interference in the election and any connections to the Trump campaign.

Current and former U.S. officials said that that assertion is at odds with Kislyak’s accounts of conversations in two encounters during the campaign, one in April ahead of Trump’s first major foreign policy speech and another in July on the sidelines of the Republican National Convention.

The apparent discrepancy could pose new problems for Sessions as his position in the administration appears increasingly tenuous.
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[jakee 1,254]

Funny how your Fox summary says this... "The Russian attorney whose campaign-season meeting with Donald Trump Jr. has caused headaches for the White House was cleared to enter the U.S. at the time of the visit by the Obama State Department, officials confirmed to Fox News late Thursday. "

When the timeline in the article says this... "the State Department issued her a B1/B2 non-immigrant visa in June 2016, according to DHS, just in time for her meeting with Trump Jr., Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort."

So, she was able to be in the country to meet with all those Trump campaign officials because she had a visa. Just like everyone else who comes into the country. How are you going to tie that to Obama and Hilary? They personally oversee the issuing of visas?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 18]

jakee

Funny how your Fox summary says this... "The Russian attorney whose campaign-season meeting with Donald Trump Jr. has caused headaches for the White House was cleared to enter the U.S. at the time of the visit by the Obama State Department, officials confirmed to Fox News late Thursday. "

When the timeline in the article says this... "the State Department issued her a B1/B2 non-immigrant visa in June 2016, according to DHS, just in time for her meeting with Trump Jr., Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort."

So, she was able to be in the country to meet with all those Trump campaign officials because she had a visa. Just like everyone else who comes into the country. How are you going to tie that to Obama and Hilary? They personally oversee the issuing of visas?

Visa?

You did not read this very well did you........

And she spends most of her time with Democrats.
Funny huh.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln