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billvon

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rushmc

***>No, we have political hacks saying he committed a felony. Big difference

That's fine. You can call them whatever you like. They are prosecutors in the US Justice Department.

If you drive drunk, and you get pulled over, you can call the cop (and the DA, and the judge at your hearing) political hacks all you like. You will still lose your license.




How long ago did you start this thread? 2 years ago?

How many times have you just been giddy cause you're sure he's gone this time for sure? How many??

So here we are. One more time. And still no Russia Trump.

Sorry, but you will yet again be heart broken because you keep your media Trump hater nose ring in.

Better a nose ring than a brown nose.

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Phil1111

******>No, we have political hacks saying he committed a felony. Big difference

That's fine. You can call them whatever you like. They are prosecutors in the US Justice Department.

If you drive drunk, and you get pulled over, you can call the cop (and the DA, and the judge at your hearing) political hacks all you like. You will still lose your license.




How long ago did you start this thread? 2 years ago?

How many times have you just been giddy cause you're sure he's gone this time for sure? How many??

So here we are. One more time. And still no Russia Trump.

Sorry, but you will yet again be heart broken because you keep your media Trump hater nose ring in.

Better a nose ring than a brown nose.

Speaking of nose brown, who pays you?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Phil1111

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Speaking of nose brown, who pays you?



?? nose brown, my friend??

Because they(you) can not win in the arena of ideas(fact),

Mix your metaphors up. Makes the person sound as sharp as a marble

:D

Can not win can you[:/]
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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normiss

Collusion.
Everyone get used to that term, if you haven't yet.
Already proven, yet only the tip of an iceberg.



Just replying to keep this one on record!
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Federal prosecutors, not Bob Mueller, career prosecutors, have evidence that the president of the US committed a felony by ordering and paying Michael Cohen to break the law.
They even told that to a federal judge yesterday.
I expect, given the evidence collected on the warrants, it's email and his phone call recordings.

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>Collusion.

Yep. We now know that Trump and Cohen made a secret deal with Russians for a real estate development, a deal they hid from voters and regulators. They hoped for a quid pro quo relationship with the Russians, where the Russians would grant moneymaking deals with Trump in exchange for an "in" to his administration. Collusion.

We now know that several Russians were working to get Trump elected, again while hiding the fact from the voting public and regulators. Felix Sater: “Our boy can become president of the USA. I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this.” Collusion.

Jared Kushner met with Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December 2016 and worked to create a back-channel communications between the Kremlin and the Trump transition team - once again, keeping his work hidden from regulators. Collusion.

Overall, 14 people from Trump's campaign, transition team or administration worked with Russians to get him elected, get support or curry favor - and then lied about it. That's a lot of collusion.

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Another one bites the dust. This one is a Russian spy guilty of conspiring with the NRA to sway elections and pander to Russian interests.

Amazing that we now have Russian spies within the US working against the interests of the US - and the right wing is not only defending them, but often enabling them.
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Alleged Russian spy Maria Butina pleads guilty engaging in conspiracy against US

By Katelyn Polantz
Updated 11:43 AM ET, Thu December 13, 2018


Washington (CNN)Alleged Russian spy Maria Butina pleaded guilty in federal court Thursday for conspiracy to act as an illegal foreign agent in the United States.

Butina, 30, was accused of working to infiltrate Republican political circles through groups such as the National Rifle Association to bolster Russian interests.

Butina said she acted "under direction of" a Russian official whom CNN has identified as Alexander Torshin. "Butina sought to establish unofficial lines of communication with Americans having power and influence over US politics," the prosecutor said in court.

She faces a maximum of five years in prison and will likely be deported after serving any time.
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normiss

Butina has now formally admitted that when she directly posed Trump the question about sanctions, she was acting on orders from Russian officials.
Trump’s answer was the signal that he was ready for the ‘pay to play’.

Wow. This is unheard of.



What has become abundantly clear is that the single most important thought Trump has in any dealing is: How do I benefit from this.

Interestingly enough, that is exactly what the Republicans always accused the Clinton's of. And exactly what they will now try and excuse as much as they can.

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normiss


“I will never testify against Trump.” This statement was recently made by Roger Stone, essentially stating that he will not be forced by a rogue and out of control prosecutor to make up lies and stories about “President Trump.”



Roger Stone Admits Spreading Lies on InfoWars
(Take link at the top of page to avoid paywall)
https://www.google.com/search?q=Roger+Stone+Admits+Spreading+Lies+on+InfoWars+site%3Awsj.com&oq=Roger+Stone+Admits+Spreading+Lies+on+InfoWars+site%3Awsj.com&aqs=chrome..69i57.6340j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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As more and more becomes clear that Flynn is a traitor who is going to get off very lightly, the more it shows that Mueller must have gotten massive amounts of evidence from him on a bigger target.

I can only imagine who a bigger target is than the National Security Adviser.

Also let it sink in that the US President had a traitor for a National Security Adviser.

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SkyDekker

Also let it sink in that the US President had a traitor for a National Security Adviser.


Sally Yates said it best, in a very understated sort of way:

“To state the obvious, you don’t want your national security adviser compromised with the Russians.”

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billvon

***Also let it sink in that the US President had a traitor for a National Security Adviser.


Sally Yates said it best, in a very understated sort of way:

“To state the obvious, you don’t want your national security adviser compromised with the Russians.”

Pfft.

What does it matter that the National Security Adviser is compromised?
Especially if the President has been compromised for years.

Does anyone else remember the reports from the early months that the CIA & NSA were heavily editing their briefs because they were reasonably sure that anything that went to the Oval Office would end up in the Kremlin?
"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

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wolfriverjoe

******Also let it sink in that the US President had a traitor for a National Security Adviser.


Sally Yates said it best, in a very understated sort of way:

“To state the obvious, you don’t want your national security adviser compromised with the Russians.”

Pfft.

What does it matter that the National Security Adviser is compromised?
Especially if the President has been compromised for years.

Does anyone else remember the reports from the early months that the CIA & NSA were heavily editing their briefs because they were reasonably sure that anything that went to the Oval Office would end up in the Kremlin?

BRILLIANT understatement.
Thankfully Mattis is still in the WH so the nuclear football isn't sold to pay for trump's personal legal bills.

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>And now evidence has surfaced that shows Trump was definitely compromised by Russia.

Yep. There is no longer much doubt that there was collusion - specifically a secret quid-pro-quo deal between Trump and several entities in Moscow. Guiliani was lying about it as recently as this week, trying to minimize the damage.

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Looks like Putin told Trump to pull out of Syria.

Meanwhile, Gen. Joseph Dunford said a few weeks ago that the US needed to train thousands of local fighters to ensure a lasting defeat of the terror group. Envoy Brett McGurk said US forces would remain in Syria even after the ISIS was defeated. Bolton two months back: "We're not going to leave as long as Iranian troops are outside Iranian borders and that includes Iranian proxies and militias."

Putin must have something even better than the pee tape and the signed documents that Trump claimed he never signed.

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For those interested in actual truth, link to letter of intent signed by Trump. Not Cohen, not another Trump company associate. Trump. Obviously Giuliani is now a confirmed enormous liar, just like the old trump lawyer he says can't be trusted because.....he's a liar. How many times have we heard "I have nothing to do with Russia."

Its also been reported the penthouse was to be given, free of charge, to Putin. This looks very bad.
Let the spin begin!!

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/12/18/attachment.1.pdf

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