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Maybe Russia had no intentions of supporting one or the other, but was happy with any level of distrust and disruption within our system. That actually sounds more plausible....



Well, the attacks on the voting machine computer network was likely for that reason, to sow distrust about the validity of the election results.

Kinda funny that it dovetailed very nicely with Trump's claims that the election was going to be 'rigged'.

However, it's pretty apparent how much Putin despised HRC. She really pissed him off while she was SecState.

The leaked e-mails through WikiLeaks (about HRC and the ones about the candidates in France & the Netherlands), the meetings with Trump's minions, the connections through Manafort & Flynn, all of that and a lot more.
They show pretty clearly that Putin wanted Trump elected.

And why wouldn't he? Trump has refused to implement sanctions against Russia.
He's also dumped the Iran nuke deal, which has had a notable effect on oil prices (to Russia's benefit).

Despite the denial of the Trumpettes, the investigation is moving forward. And I'll bet that it finds more, and that a large number of Trump's inner circle ends up facing charges over it.
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***“We see no reason to dispute the [intelligence community’s] conclusions. Our staff concluded that the ... conclusions were accurate and on point. The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton.”
Joint statement by Senate Intelligence Committee chair, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) with its vice chair, Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.)



Russian efforts were always out there to try in hurt the candidate they thought was going to win. At that time it was Hillary. One week after Trump was elected Russia was reportedly the one sponsoring the protests against him. It's funny to watch you. You believe what you want to believe and it's the funniest things I've ever seen

The efforts they made was always to sew divisiveness in the US Political world. Trump elected over Hillary was just a happy outcome because he's such an idiot. I think we'd have the same divisiveness if HRC were elected.
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******“We see no reason to dispute the [intelligence community’s] conclusions. Our staff concluded that the ... conclusions were accurate and on point. The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton.”
Joint statement by Senate Intelligence Committee chair, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) with its vice chair, Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.)



Russian efforts were always out there to try in hurt the candidate they thought was going to win. At that time it was Hillary. One week after Trump was elected Russia was reportedly the one sponsoring the protests against him. It's funny to watch you. You believe what you want to believe and it's the funniest things I've ever seen

The efforts they made was always to sew divisiveness in the US Political world. Trump elected over Hillary was just a happy outcome because he's such an idiot. I think we'd have the same divisiveness if HRC were elected.

Yep! Such an idiot cuz he's kicking everybody's butt on almost every front!
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Yep! Such an idiot cuz he's kicking everybody's butt on almost every front!



Except where it counts. Better hope the democrats don't get their act together before midterms or it's going to be a blowout

https://www.thedailybeast.com/democrats-flip-a-pennsylvania-seat-making-41-since-trumps-inauguration-3
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***Interesting that you would find a conflict or suspicion with Mueller and Russia, and simultaneously ignore as 'nothing to see here' the obvious Russian ties with the administration

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868

That is some of the finest cherry-picking to date.



Actually there have been no ties shown to date

Seems the current Trumpist spin is not denial of collusion, but objection to the method of collecting the evidence of collusion.
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Yep! Such an idiot cuz he's kicking everybody's butt on almost every front!



Except where it counts. Better hope the democrats don't get their act together before midterms or it's going to be a blowout

https://www.thedailybeast.com/democrats-flip-a-pennsylvania-seat-making-41-since-trumps-inauguration-3



Yep

And Hillary was a slam dunk winner!
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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From the NYT:

"The special counsel plans to finish by Sept. 1 its investigation into whether President Trump obstructed the Russia inquiry, according to the president’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, who said on Sunday that waiting any longer would risk improperly influencing voters in the midterm elections in November."

Yep. It was going to be over by Thanksgiving (of last year.) Then New Years. And since then, 16 people have been indicted - four former Trump advisers, 13 Russian nationals, one California man, and one London-based lawyer. Five have already pled guilty. And looks like Roger Stone is next.

Looks like Trump is getting pretty desperate - things won't look good for the Republicans in November if Mueller continues his steady investigation, and people continue to be indicted (and plead guilty) for their crimes. They need the investigation to stop for political reasons, and Trump is looking for something - anything! - to keep justice from being carried out.

If he wants to speed things up, there's a very easy way to do that - agree to an interview. He's said he wants to; why not keep his word for once?

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He's said he wants to; why not keep his word for once?



Because that would break with decades of Trump tradition!:o
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***He's said he wants to; why not keep his word for once?



Because that would break with decades of Trump tradition!:o

Good one.

Mueller was ready for trump's interview/testimony in November of 2017. Thats when the discussions between Mueller and trump's 2nd?? set of lawyers began.

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From The Hill reposted here.

[url] http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/21/mark-penn-mueller-probe-deep-state-flailing/[url]

At least some have their eyes open far enough to see what is coming.
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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So now we have a second secret meeting that investigators have just discovered, that led to more Russian money getting involved. George Nader (UAE agent) and a Trump donor (Erik Prince) had a secret meeting with Trump Jr in August 2016, to discuss how Arab princes sought to defeat Clinton in the election. Joel Zamel, an Israeli official specializing in social media manipulation, was also there. The UAE agent then made a big payment to Zamel after the meeting.

This meeting was hidden for over a year, to the extent that Prince perjured himself to try to conceal it. During testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, he was asked if he had any "formal communication or contact with the campaign.” He said no.

Later in December, before Trump was sworn in, there was another secret meeting between Arab princes and Trump in the US. Shortly thereafter, Nader organized yet another secret meeting between Erik Prince, Arab princes and a Russian fund manager.

Every time you turn over another stone in the Trump campaign's dealings, something nasty crawls out.

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So now we have a second secret meeting that investigators have just discovered, that led to more Russian money getting involved. George Nader (UAE agent) and a Trump donor (Erik Prince) had a secret meeting with Trump Jr in August 2016, to discuss how Arab princes sought to defeat Clinton in the election. Joel Zamel, an Israeli official specializing in social media manipulation, was also there. The UAE agent then made a big payment to Zamel after the meeting.

This meeting was hidden for over a year, to the extent that Prince perjured himself to try to conceal it. During testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, he was asked if he had any "formal communication or contact with the campaign.” He said no.

Later in December, before Trump was sworn in, there was another secret meeting between Arab princes and Trump in the US. Shortly thereafter, Nader organized yet another secret meeting between Erik Prince, Arab princes and a Russian fund manager.

Every time you turn over another stone in the Trump campaign's dealings, something nasty crawls out.



So, let's get this straight. Erik Prince tries to set up a potential deal between Saudi Royalty and after Trump is elected Erik Prince's sister gets a position at one of the largest departments and the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia brags about getting list of internal dissidents from Kushner leading to internal purge (people killed and tortured).

At risk of people rushing to his defense I have to ask if this is above board. Sure, people try to forge relationships with potential politicians and sure there are relationships brokered after the election but this seems like a bit much.
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billvon

>http://www.breitbart.com//

You really should start getting your information from more than one source. It will help prevent such foolish mistakes in the future.

As stated Bill, reposted from the hill. But since you can't refute what was posted you go after the shit like you do. So typical so predictable
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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***So now we have a second secret meeting that investigators have just discovered, that led to more Russian money getting involved. George Nader (UAE agent) and a Trump donor (Erik Prince) had a secret meeting with Trump Jr in August 2016, to discuss how Arab princes sought to defeat Clinton in the election. Joel Zamel, an Israeli official specializing in social media manipulation, was also there. The UAE agent then made a big payment to Zamel after the meeting.

This meeting was hidden for over a year, to the extent that Prince perjured himself to try to conceal it. During testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, he was asked if he had any "formal communication or contact with the campaign.” He said no.

Later in December, before Trump was sworn in, there was another secret meeting between Arab princes and Trump in the US. Shortly thereafter, Nader organized yet another secret meeting between Erik Prince, Arab princes and a Russian fund manager.

Every time you turn over another stone in the Trump campaign's dealings, something nasty crawls out.



So, let's get this straight. Erik Prince tries to set up a potential deal between Saudi Royalty and after Trump is elected Erik Prince's sister gets a position at one of the largest departments and the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia brags about getting list of internal dissidents from Kushner leading to internal purge (people killed and tortured).

At risk of people rushing to his defense I have to ask if this is above board. Sure, people try to forge relationships with potential politicians and sure there are relationships brokered after the election but this seems like a bit much.

The left is getting desperate! They're starting to leak things that I can come from the IG report because I need to get out in front of it. We got internal Spooks working the Trump campaign and then 7 months into his presidency. It's going to get ugly. And it's going to get ugly fast
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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rushmc

The left is getting desperate! They're starting to leak things that I can come from the IG report because I need to get out in front of it.


You need to get out in front of the IG report? Why, what's it going to say about you?

By the way, you never said why you're so sure the report by the IG (appointed by Obama) is going to be trustworthy and the investigation by Mueller (appointed by the Trump administration) is going to be a pack of lies.

Why do you think Obama's people are so much better than Trump's people?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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******So now we have a second secret meeting that investigators have just discovered, that led to more Russian money getting involved. George Nader (UAE agent) and a Trump donor (Erik Prince) had a secret meeting with Trump Jr in August 2016, to discuss how Arab princes sought to defeat Clinton in the election. Joel Zamel, an Israeli official specializing in social media manipulation, was also there. The UAE agent then made a big payment to Zamel after the meeting.

This meeting was hidden for over a year, to the extent that Prince perjured himself to try to conceal it. During testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, he was asked if he had any "formal communication or contact with the campaign.” He said no.

Later in December, before Trump was sworn in, there was another secret meeting between Arab princes and Trump in the US. Shortly thereafter, Nader organized yet another secret meeting between Erik Prince, Arab princes and a Russian fund manager.

Every time you turn over another stone in the Trump campaign's dealings, something nasty crawls out.



So, let's get this straight. Erik Prince tries to set up a potential deal between Saudi Royalty and after Trump is elected Erik Prince's sister gets a position at one of the largest departments and the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia brags about getting list of internal dissidents from Kushner leading to internal purge (people killed and tortured).

At risk of people rushing to his defense I have to ask if this is above board. Sure, people try to forge relationships with potential politicians and sure there are relationships brokered after the election but this seems like a bit much.

The left is getting desperate! They're starting to leak things that I can come from the IG report because I need to get out in front of it. We got internal Spooks working the Trump campaign and then 7 months into his presidency. It's going to get ugly. And it's going to get ugly fast

The FBI had a mole in the Trump campaign well before the election, spying on things. Stefan Halper. And it's coming out he was paid handsomely by the Dems.

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*********So now we have a second secret meeting that investigators have just discovered, that led to more Russian money getting involved. George Nader (UAE agent) and a Trump donor (Erik Prince) had a secret meeting with Trump Jr in August 2016, to discuss how Arab princes sought to defeat Clinton in the election. Joel Zamel, an Israeli official specializing in social media manipulation, was also there. The UAE agent then made a big payment to Zamel after the meeting.

This meeting was hidden for over a year, to the extent that Prince perjured himself to try to conceal it. During testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, he was asked if he had any "formal communication or contact with the campaign.” He said no.

Later in December, before Trump was sworn in, there was another secret meeting between Arab princes and Trump in the US. Shortly thereafter, Nader organized yet another secret meeting between Erik Prince, Arab princes and a Russian fund manager.

Every time you turn over another stone in the Trump campaign's dealings, something nasty crawls out.



So, let's get this straight. Erik Prince tries to set up a potential deal between Saudi Royalty and after Trump is elected Erik Prince's sister gets a position at one of the largest departments and the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia brags about getting list of internal dissidents from Kushner leading to internal purge (people killed and tortured).

At risk of people rushing to his defense I have to ask if this is above board. Sure, people try to forge relationships with potential politicians and sure there are relationships brokered after the election but this seems like a bit much.

The left is getting desperate! They're starting to leak things that I can come from the IG report because I need to get out in front of it. We got internal Spooks working the Trump campaign and then 7 months into his presidency. It's going to get ugly. And it's going to get ugly fast

The FBI had a mole in the Trump campaign well before the election, spying on things. Stefan Halper. And it's coming out he was paid handsomely by the Dems.
Also turns out he’s a lifelong Republican.
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The FBI had a mole in the Trump campaign well before the election, spying on things. Stefan Halper. And it's coming out he was paid handsomely by the Dems.



Stefan Halper is a Nixon, Ford, Reagan era Whitehouse official who's affiliation with the intelligence community is very well known.

Please provide your source as to when he began his work as a "mole" and details on the payments from the Dems.
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The FBI had a mole in the Trump campaign well before the election, spying on things. Stefan Halper. And it's coming out he was paid handsomely by the Dems.



Stefan Halper is a Nixon, Ford, Reagan era Whitehouse official who's affiliation with the intelligence community is very well known.

Please provide your source as to when he began his work as a "mole" and details on the payments from the Dems.



Ahh, it has been confirmed by numerous news outlets. Now they are saying maybe two. From months before the election until 7 months after the election.
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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The FBI had a mole in the Trump campaign well before the election, spying on things. Stefan Halper. And it's coming out he was paid handsomely by the Dems.



Stefan Halper is a Nixon, Ford, Reagan era Whitehouse official who's affiliation with the intelligence community is very well known.

Please provide your source as to when he began his work as a "mole" and details on the payments from the Dems.



Ahh, it has been confirmed by numerous news outlets. Now they are saying maybe two. From months before the election until 7 months after the election.

Sources? When did he start working inside the campaign?
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Ahh, it has been confirmed by numerous news outlets.




NPR has tried and been unable to confirm the allegations made by Trump that the DoJ had a mole in the Trump campaign. Please name one of these "several new outlets".

This is most likely another attempt at distraction and will fail like all the other Trump nothingburger lies.
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