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rushmc


So under Trump's leadership two branches of the Republican party, both investigating the same thing, have descended into a public feud. Republican congressional leaders publically backstabbing the Trump Administration leaders of the DOJ, who are responding in kind, is the sort of thing you think shows them all in a good light, is it?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Interesting that you would find a conflict or suspicion with Mueller and Russia, and simultaneously ignore as 'nothing to see here' the obvious Russian ties with the administration

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868

That is some of the finest cherry-picking to date.

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Flynn's indictment is wide and varied. 5 pages actually. Yes, part of the indictment could be found to be false or untrue as happens in many criminal charges..... i.e. found guilty on 12 of 13 counts.

Of course, the indictment itself is public record, I assume you have read it.... oh wait, of course, not, why would you bother looking things up when Fox can feed you the synopsis so easily?

https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download

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>It's 14 months now that you have been telling us that it's all going away soon.

Ty Cobb a year ago:

“It is my hope and expectation that shortly after Thanksgiving, all the White House interviews will be concluded. . . . I’d be embarrassed if this is still haunting the White House by Thanksgiving and worse if it’s still haunting him by year end."

Note that he didn't say Thanksgiving of which year.

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rushmc

***************You forgot to add that the DoJ falls under the Executive Branch. Which is headed by...?



And so many of those that you talk about hate Trump. You need to get media sources are more varied then you look at today.

Comey (R) hates Trump
Rosenstein (R) hates Trump
Sessions (R) hates Trump
Mueller (R) hates Trump
McCabe (R) hates Trump
Wray (R) hates Trump

It all makes sense in Marc's Looking Glass World

Their actions mean more than any letter behind their name!

So your position is that Washington D.C politicians have managed to organize a bipartisan conspiracy against a sitting president?

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/387625-mueller-may-have-a-conflict-and-it-leads-directly-to-a-russian-oligarch

Things keep surfacing...

Mmmm, you know that when we cultivate foreign assets much of the time those assets are actual members of that foreign body, right? That's a bit of a stretch to say it's a conflict that Mueller acting in his professional capacity at the FBI tried to put together a mission with a Russian.
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>Hey Bill, what do you think of the Court case for manafort today?

Looks like Manafort is digging himself deeper and deeper. He is probably going away for a long, long time - and it couldn't happen to a nicer criminal.

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Federal judge rejects Manafort's bid to dismiss Mueller indictment

By JOSH GERSTEIN 05/15/2018
Politico

A federal judge on Tuesday rejected an attempt by Paul Manafort, a former Trump campaign chairman, to get an indictment against him dismissed by claiming that special counsel Robert Mueller’s appointment was flawed.

In a blow to Manafort’s defense, U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled that Mueller’s prosecution of the longtime political consultant on charges of money laundering and failing to register as a foreign agent for a Ukrainian political party was “squarely” within the authority that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein granted to Mueller last May.

“The indictment falls squarely within that portion of the authority granted to the Special Counsel that Manafort finds unobjectionable: the order to investigate ‘any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign,’” Jackson wrote.

“Manafort was, at one time, not merely ‘associated with,’ but the chairman of, the Presidential campaign, and his work on behalf of the Russia-backed Ukrainian political party and connections to other Russian figures are matters of public record,” the judge added. “It was logical and appropriate for investigators tasked with the investigation of ‘any links’ between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign to direct their attention to him.”
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rushmc

Hey Bill, what do you think of the Court case for manafort today?

Looks to me like Mueller got his dick slapped big time!



rushmc

I am about ready to predict that Manafort and Flynn are going to get exonerated. What do you think?



rushmc

Do you ever get embarrassed when you post this stuff and it turns out to be bullshit like the last post you made?



Business as usual :P
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tkhayes

Interesting that you would find a conflict or suspicion with Mueller and Russia, and simultaneously ignore as 'nothing to see here' the obvious Russian ties with the administration

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868

That is some of the finest cherry-picking to date.



Actually there have been no ties shown to date
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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billvon

>It's 14 months now that you have been telling us that it's all going away soon.

Ty Cobb a year ago:

“It is my hope and expectation that shortly after Thanksgiving, all the White House interviews will be concluded. . . . I’d be embarrassed if this is still haunting the White House by Thanksgiving and worse if it’s still haunting him by year end."

Note that he didn't say Thanksgiving of which year.



More trolling on your part....
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Flawed?

Not yet.

The judge is still waiting or the DOJ scope document.

The same doc that the DOJ will not even show to the oversight committees even though, by law, they (the DOJ) have too
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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jakee

***Hey Bill, what do you think of the Court case for manafort today?

Looks to me like Mueller got his dick slapped big time!



rushmc

I am about ready to predict that Manafort and Flynn are going to get exonerated. What do you think?



rushmc

Do you ever get embarrassed when you post this stuff and it turns out to be bullshit like the last post you made?



Business as usual :P

Tic toc......
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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billvon

>Hey Bill, what do you think of the Court case for manafort today?

Looks like Manafort is digging himself deeper and deeper. He is probably going away for a long, long time - and it couldn't happen to a nicer criminal.

=============================
Federal judge rejects Manafort's bid to dismiss Mueller indictment

By JOSH GERSTEIN 05/15/2018
Politico

A federal judge on Tuesday rejected an attempt by Paul Manafort, a former Trump campaign chairman, to get an indictment against him dismissed by claiming that special counsel Robert Mueller’s appointment was flawed.

In a blow to Manafort’s defense, U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled that Mueller’s prosecution of the longtime political consultant on charges of money laundering and failing to register as a foreign agent for a Ukrainian political party was “squarely” within the authority that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein granted to Mueller last May.

“The indictment falls squarely within that portion of the authority granted to the Special Counsel that Manafort finds unobjectionable: the order to investigate ‘any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign,’” Jackson wrote.

“Manafort was, at one time, not merely ‘associated with,’ but the chairman of, the Presidential campaign, and his work on behalf of the Russia-backed Ukrainian political party and connections to other Russian figures are matters of public record,” the judge added. “It was logical and appropriate for investigators tasked with the investigation of ‘any links’ between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign to direct their attention to him.”
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It should be noted that Judge Amy Berman Jackson is an Obama appointee. :P

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rushmc

There is plenty of information being reported. Fortunately, shortly, I think most of it will be proven with the inspector general report comes out shortly. All we need do is wait!



So lets get this straight Rush - you're exepcting an accurate and impartial report from the Obama-appointed Inspector General of the DoJ, which will expose the nefarious democrat conspiracy engaged in by the Trump-appointed Deputy AG and the Special Prosecutor appointed by him, Republican Bob Mueller, who was previously a Bush-appointed FBI director?

In short, you believe that Obama appointed fair, honourable and non-partisan administrators of government, while successive republican presidents have appointed administrators so slimey and untrustworthy they conspire against their own benefactors?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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nolhtairt

It should be noted that Judge Amy Berman Jackson is an Obama appointee. :P



of course, because only a Republican appointed judge could possibly be fair and balanced.

Oh wait! See above, republicans these days don't trust republican appointed officials as far as they can throw them.

Well, I guess there's nothing else to do but dissolve the entire federal justice system. :D
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jakee

***It should be noted that Judge Amy Berman Jackson is an Obama appointee. :P



of course, because only a Republican appointed judge could possibly be fair and balanced.

Oh wait! See above, republicans these days don't trust republican appointed officials as far as they can throw them.

Well, I guess there's nothing else to do but dissolve the entire federal justice system. :D

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>It should be noted that Judge Amy Berman Jackson is an Obama appointee.

And Robert Mueller is a conservative Republican appointed by GWB. Therefore he is above suspicion. So Berman is simply agreeing with conservatives.

Isn't it great when both sides come together like this?

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“We see no reason to dispute the [intelligence community’s] conclusions. Our staff concluded that the ... conclusions were accurate and on point. The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton.”
Joint statement by Senate Intelligence Committee chair, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) with its vice chair, Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.)
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billvon



Looks like Manafort is digging himself deeper and deeper. He is probably going away for a long, long time - and it couldn't happen to a nicer criminal.



Well, Manafort's former son-in-law pled guilty a while back. It just came out today.

One more down, the circle is tightening.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort-exclusive/exclusive-manaforts-former-son-in-law-cuts-plea-deal-to-cooperate-with-government-sources-idUSKCN1II2YM
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Well well. The New York Times now has a leak story, which came out Wednesday, to get ahead of the inspector General's report. Going to be a fun couple of weeks. The spin is going to be incredible!
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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kallend

“We see no reason to dispute the [intelligence community’s] conclusions. Our staff concluded that the ... conclusions were accurate and on point. The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton.”
Joint statement by Senate Intelligence Committee chair, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) with its vice chair, Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.)



Russian efforts were always out there to try in hurt the candidate they thought was going to win. At that time it was Hillary. One week after Trump was elected Russia was reportedly the one sponsoring the protests against him. It's funny to watch you. You believe what you want to believe and it's the funniest things I've ever seen
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Yes Marc. How funny your whole life must be now. Every evening when you post you claim to be chortling over the news. The worse it looks for your hero the more you protest and "laugh". When the end comes you'll probably be unable to type from all the rolling around on the floor.
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rushmc

Going to be a fun couple of weeks. The spin is going to be incredible!



I, for one, am looking forward to the spin-fest as it unfolds from your posts. Thanks for the foreshadowing! Your posts would otherwise be so unpredictable.
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Maybe Russia had no intentions of supporting one or the other, but was happy with any level of distrust and disruption within our system. That actually sounds more plausible.

But if your campaign got wrapped up in any of that, directly or indirectly, it is still worthy of investigation (ongoing) and quite possibly leads to crimes, (also underway with dozens of indictments and many guilty pleas)

I see that Fox news managed to report the Manafort son-in-law plea, but hid it rather well from any front pages or headlines.....

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