Russiagate

[billvon 2,384]

rushmc

***Two signs that Trump is feeling the same kind of panic as his supporters:

After he found out that Mueller was looking into his tax returns he panicked and threatened him that he better not cross that "red line" - and has started to try to discredit him as he does his job. It looks like he may even try to fire him, which would be his death knell, as it was Nixon's.

And perhaps an even stronger sign of his panic - he has started to ask if he can pardon himself if he is convicted of a crime.

So don't feel bad, Marc. You're not alone.

It is fun watching you prove you have no idea of how the special council process is supposed to work.
If you are going to try the arrogance approach, it helps if you can spell the process you claim to be an expert in.

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There are to be specific guidelines given to the special council that limits what he can look into unless he comes across evidence of anther crime. At to start, the special council is to be investigation evidence of crime.

Ken Starr started off by looking in to Travelgate; he ended up finding a blue dress. And Republicans cheered him on.

Where will Mueller end up going? Sexual assault? Tax fraud? Money laundering? It will be fun to watch (and to watch you spin.)

[tkhayes 124]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/conway-no-clinton-charges-donald-trump/index.html

what happened to the campaign promise of prosecuting Hillary anyway? Just another failed policy of the current administration.

Or more likely, he knew they would vote for him, even though he fed them bullshit and continues to follow through with nothing but empty bullshit promises.....

Carrier - http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-carrier-plant-layoffs-20170720-story.html

immigration blocked by most courts.

no healthcare repeal OR replace.

No wall, or even a mention of a wall in any budget

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

yoink

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Donald J. Trump; Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago

So why aren't the Committees and investigators, and of course our beleaguered A.G., looking into Crooked Hillarys crimes & Russia relations?

Because she's not the president you fucking moron.

Well, there's also the simple fact that the Rs looked into her, and her e-mails, and Benghazi and a bazillion other things throughout their investigations and hearing and found...

Nothing.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[billvon 2,384]

New connections between Kushner and Russian crime organizations. Turns out Kushner got a lot of money from Russian criminals, and indeed it looks like the Russians were using projects like his to launder their stolen money. During this time, Trump fired the person attempting to stop the money laundering; US laws can apparently interfere with Trump family profits when they conflict with Russian interests.

Drip drip . . .
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Jared Kushner sealed real estate deal with oligarch's firm cited in money-laundering case

Wendy Dent and Ed Pilkington in New York and Shaun Walker in Moscow
Monday 24 July 2017
Guardian

Jared Kushner, the son-in-law of Donald Trump, who acts as his senior White House adviser, secured a multimillion-dollar Manhattan real estate deal with a Soviet-born oligarch whose company was cited in a major New York money laundering case now being investigated by members of Congress.

A Guardian investigation has established a series of overlapping ties and relationships involving alleged Russian money laundering, New York real estate deals and members of Trump’s inner circle. They include a 2015 sale of part of the old New York Times building in Manhattan involving Kushner and a billionaire real estate tycoon and diamond mogul, Lev Leviev.

The ties between Trump family real estate deals and Russian money interests are attracting growing interest from the justice department’s special counsel, Robert Mueller, as he seeks to determine whether the Trump campaign collaborated with Russia to distort the outcome of the 2016 race. Mueller has reportedly expanded his inquiry to look at real estate deals involving the Trump Organization, as well as Kushner’s financing.

. . .

Leviev, a global tycoon known as the “king of diamonds”, was a business partner of the Russian-owned company Prevezon Holdings that was at the center of a multimillion-dollar lawsuit launched in New York. Under the leadership of US attorney Preet Bharara, who was fired by Trump in March, prosecutors pursued Prevezon for allegedly attempting to use Manhattan real estate deals to launder money stolen from the Russian treasury.

The scam had been uncovered by Sergei Magnitsky, an accountant who died in 2009 in a Moscow jail in suspicious circumstances. US sanctions against Russia imposed after Magnitsky’s death were a central topic of conversation at the notorious Trump Tower meeting last June between Kushner, Donald Trump Jr, Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and a Russian lawyer with ties to the Kremlin.

Jamison Firestone, the founder of the Russian law firm that employed Magnitsky at the time that he exposed the fraud, said that Veselnitskaya clearly intended to use the Trump Tower meeting to lobby against the Magnitsky sanctions. “They really made it a state priority to get rid of these sanctions,” he said.

[rushmc 18]

wolfriverjoe

Because she's not the president you fucking moron.

Well, there's also the simple fact that the Rs looked into her, and her e-mails, and Benghazi and a bazillion other things throughout their investigations and hearing and found...

Nothing.

Sorry
this statement is a lie.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[gowlerk 1,903]

rushmc

***

Because she's not the president you fucking moron.

Well, there's also the simple fact that the Rs looked into her, and her e-mails, and Benghazi and a bazillion other things throughout their investigations and hearing and found...

Nothing.

Sorry
this statement is a lie.



Or, translated from "Marc speak" to English: Na-na-na-na-na, I know you are, but what am I?

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[billvon 2,384]

rushmc

Well, there's also the simple fact that the Rs looked into her, and her e-mails, and Benghazi and a bazillion other things throughout their investigations and hearing and found...

Nothing.

Sorry
this statement is a lie.

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FBI clears Clinton -- again
By Eric Bradner, Pamela Brown and Evan Perez, CNN
Mon November 7, 2016

New emails were mostly personal and duplicates of what had already been seen

(CNN)FBI Director James Comey told lawmakers Sunday the agency hasn't changed its opinion that Hillary Clinton should not face criminal charges after a review of new emails.

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July," Comey wrote in the new letter to congressional committee chairmen.
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rushmc

***


Nothing.

Sorry
this statement is a lie.

Please provide evidence of what they found to back up your position.

[normiss 620]

That right there is damn funny.

[ryoder 1,381]

gowlerk

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Anyone taking bets on days until Sessions resigns?

Sessions will not resign. He will force Trump to either fire him or keep him on.

Someone agrees with you: http://www.thedailybeast.com/jeff-sessions-is-growing-pissed-at-trump-his-allies-say-and-he-doesnt-plan-to-quit

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rushmc 18]

yoink

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Nothing.

Sorry
this statement is a lie.

Please provide evidence of what they found to back up your position.

Comeys news conference.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

Comey's Congressional testimony.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[yoink 321]

Trump's twitter account.

Kushner's room service call last night.


Sorry - I thought we were just listing random conversations...



Come on - you're asserting that somewhere in Comey's congressional testimony he's provided evidence that would justify further investigations into Hillary Clinton, despite him saying otherwise last year. All I'm asking is that you provide that data - with the context, please.

What is driving you to this conclusion that a new investigation would somehow turn up something new that the dozen others haven't?

Bill has provided evidence of Comey stating on the record that "we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July" - that being that there was no crime committed.
Do you not accept that?

[billvon 2,384]

>Comeys news conference.

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

[normiss 620]

You guys and all your facts!

[correcceo 0]

tkhayes

what happened to the campaign promise of prosecuting Hillary anyway? Just another failed policy of the current administration

Nah, it's like a secret handshake - it doesn't really mean shit, but it's good enough to get you into the club. . .

[rushmc 18]

yoink

Trump's twitter account.

Kushner's room service call last night.


Sorry - I thought we were just listing random conversations...



Come on - you're asserting that somewhere in Comey's congressional testimony he's provided evidence that would justify further investigations into Hillary Clinton, despite him saying otherwise last year. All I'm asking is that you provide that data - with the context, please.

What is driving you to this conclusion that a new investigation would somehow turn up something new that the dozen others haven't?

Bill has provided evidence of Comey stating on the record that "we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July" - that being that there was no crime committed.
Do you not accept that?

There were crimes committed!
Comey stated as much.

Never before has ANY FBI director came out publicly as Comey did.

THAT is the biggest reason he got fired IMO!

And Comey tried to re-create the statue by saying there was no intent. There is nothing in the statute the speaks to intend.

Thinks about, we have a nuke sub sailor that is in jail for 6 years for taking two pictures inside the sub. Do you think he had any intent to cause problems?

And we have a case where classified material was shared with a girlfriend. Petraeus got in trouble for that.

Hillary got a political pass. Period. She committed multiple felonies as outlined by Comey's statements and testimony.

Now there is a known crime that a special council should be looking into.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Phil1111 908]

correcceo

***
what happened to the campaign promise of prosecuting Hillary anyway? Just another failed policy of the current administration

Nah, it's like a secret handshake - it doesn't really mean shit, but it's good enough to get you into the club. . .


Close. LOCK HER UP, LOCK HER UP. Was the chant led by the orange boy for six months.

No dissent from the nodding lemmings when that was all forgotten.

[rushmc 18]

She also deleted 30,000 emails AFTER and congressional subpoena that ordered her to keep ALL emails on the personal server.

THAT is obstruction of justice and tampering with evidence.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Phil1111 908]

rushmc

She also deleted 30,000 emails AFTER and congressional subpoena that ordered her to keep ALL emails on the personal server.

THAT is obstruction of justice and tampering with evidence.

So why has trump not ordered her prosecution? Why has he failed to keep that major campaign promise?

WHY?

[rushmc 18]

Phil1111

***She also deleted 30,000 emails AFTER and congressional subpoena that ordered her to keep ALL emails on the personal server.

THAT is obstruction of justice and tampering with evidence.

So why has trump not ordered her prosecution? Why has he failed to keep that major campaign promise?

WHY?

That is a good question but, he has called out Sessions for being soft on Hillary.

More to come I think.

And now that Wasserman Schultz IT expert has been arrested at an airport trying to leave the country after wiring $165k to Pakistan, there may be much more to come

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,384]

>She also deleted 30,000 emails AFTER and congressional subpoena that ordered her
>to keep ALL emails on the personal server.

OK. Now - quick! - spin this!

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President Trump and White House staffers are illegally deleting messages, lawsuit says

JASON SILVERSTEIN
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Thursday, June 22, 2017, 3:13 PM

President Trump and his White House staffers are breaking federal law by using confidential messaging apps that keep their conversations from entering public records, a federal lawsuit charged Thursday.

Two Washington watchdog groups accused Trump and his workers of illegally deleting emails, official records and even tweets sent to millions of people.

"President Trump and others within the White House are either ignoring or outright flouting these responsibilities,” the civil complaint from the National Security Archive and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) says.

The deletions could be a violation of the Presidential Records Act, which says White House internal communications must be preserved.

. . .

It also cites multiple media reports that said White House staffers have been communicating through Signal, an encrypted app, and Confide, an app that deletes messages after they are read.
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[normiss 620]

Apparently The Great Leader can do as he pleases, unlike the rest of the country.

[rushmc 18]

billvon

>She also deleted 30,000 emails AFTER and congressional subpoena that ordered her
>to keep ALL emails on the personal server.

OK. Now - quick! - spin this!

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President Trump and White House staffers are illegally deleting messages, lawsuit says

JASON SILVERSTEIN
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Thursday, June 22, 2017, 3:13 PM

President Trump and his White House staffers are breaking federal law by using confidential messaging apps that keep their conversations from entering public records, a federal lawsuit charged Thursday.

Two Washington watchdog groups accused Trump and his workers of illegally deleting emails, official records and even tweets sent to millions of people.

"President Trump and others within the White House are either ignoring or outright flouting these responsibilities,” the civil complaint from the National Security Archive and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) says.

The deletions could be a violation of the Presidential Records Act, which says White House internal communications must be preserved.

. . .

It also cites multiple media reports that said White House staffers have been communicating through Signal, an encrypted app, and Confide, an app that deletes messages after they are read.
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Ooooooo
So now YOU use a Trump did it too retort?

Really?

After all the posts you have made about the Obama did it first spin jobs you posted?

Really?

Anyway,

IMO
If they are breaking the law then there should be consequences.

But given the nature of the fake news organizations pushing fake news against Trump, (the kind that makes many here pee their pants in excitement), I will wait and see what comes of this.

Meanwhile Bill, carry on.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,384]

rushmc

There were crimes committed!
Comey stated as much.

Comey: ""Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

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Hillary got a political pass. Period. She committed multiple felonies as outlined by Comey's statements and testimony.

Comey: ""Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July."

You are looking pretty silly here.