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brenthutch

Berkeley celebrates free speech and diversity

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Well, to be honest, since he's apparently a gay man, "cocksucker" might be accurate >:(.
And thanks, Rehmwa.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Shit-scared of a world where they are no longer relevant?....Sound like the Democrats to me. According to you guys the AltRight is in the White House hardly irrelevant.


A most excellent example of what Wendy was referring to a few posts above.

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Milo's a trolling shitbag, I support peaceful protests against his attendance 100%.

Very disappointing that the protesters moved on to property damage though.



I visited Berkley to attend a presentation/discussion during my time at Monterey for graduate school. I was pretty unimpressed by the condition of the campus, owning mostly to the presence of protest posters EVERYWHERE. Had they been supporting/opposing something serious, with valid arguments either way, I would have understood. Multi-colored flyers advertising meetings for groups supporting/opposed to dozens of issues, written in rather passionate language, as if the fate of the Bill of Rights itself hung in the balance of each one (though none addressing any issues even covered by the Bill of Rights, except the freedom to post the flyers and hold their discussions!). And those larger issues represented by banners and flyers were really not represented well.

It seemed to me that the school was desperately clinging to its identity of social mobilization by trying to find even the strangest, unimportant, least impactful issue, just to have something to stand for/against, instead of really digging down into social issues and understanding all sides. It was pretty sad.

If you want your opposing views to be taken seriously (and have a real impact), present a coherent argument, be prepared to discuss both sides, and behave like an adult. If you want to counter his hateful rhetoric, schedule a "counter-point" presenter the following evening or week.
See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus

Shut Up & Jump!

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brenthutch

He has a constitutionally protected right to be offensive.


What did Wendy say which gives you the slightest incling that she thinks otherwise?

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You do not have a right to not be offended.


But you have the right to reply, and even to reply in an offensive manner.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Agreed!
These last few years, a variety of - initially - peaceful protests have been hijacked by handfuls of hooded vandals.
They get their thrills from breaking things and taunting police. One of the more amusing videos of the Vancouver Riot Essa guy taunting police for 10 minutes, then getting whacked once! He got what head asking for!
These vandals have a similar mind-set to skydivers. The only difference is that skydivers taunt the law of gravity.

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brenthutch

OMG I had never heard of the guy, but i think I agreed with everything he said. I kept waiting for him to go off the rails but he never did. Thanks for the link.

EVERYONE SHOULD VIEW THIS!!!!



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Check out mistercwood's link above



I don't know which one of use is more confused right now.

I hit quote instead of reply when I made that post.

It's YOUR link from YOUR thread-starting post. :D

Did you just pull a Rush(tm) and start a thread with an article you hadn't even looked at?? If so I am profoundly disappointed - I disagree with the vast majority of positions you normally take, but I'd never expect that kind of laziness from you. [:/]
You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly.

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mistercwood

***OMG I had never heard of the guy, but i think I agreed with everything he said. I kept waiting for him to go off the rails but he never did. Thanks for the link.

EVERYONE SHOULD VIEW THIS!!!!



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Check out mistercwood's link above



I don't know which one of use is more confused right now.

I hit quote instead of reply when I made that post.

It's YOUR link from YOUR thread-starting post. :D

Did you just pull a Rush(tm) and start a thread with an article you hadn't even looked at?? If so I am profoundly disappointed - I disagree with the vast majority of positions you normally take, but I'd never expect that kind of laziness from you. [:/]

Oh silly. You are such a good, no GREAT fibber. You didn't per chance attend that FABULOUS University did you? Wait what was its name.....oh poop...I can't remember now. It had those courses. Disingenuous Lying 101,201,454 and for the PhD level Lying with a Straight Face #627.

Oh yeah trump University. Look I found its text book online. It must bring back fabulous memories. To think your old prof is President Now. That the author of all those textbooks is the President's right hand man, bannon.

"Lie is a word from the common man dime box. Disingenuous is a 50 cent word from the political speak box. Lie is simple to understand — a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood; something intended or serving to convey a false impression. Disingenuous is spoken with a bit of fuzz on it — lacking in frankness, candor, or sincerity; falsely or hypocritically ingenuous; insincere:"
http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/07/difference-between-lie-and-disingenuous/

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brenthutch

When I made the initial post last night there was just a picture of a much bigger fire and a sentence about Berkeley. Why would I lie about something that was so obviously wrong



That's why I left it as a question - figured I'd give you a chance to explain... ;)
You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly.

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except all those damned monkeys on the left coast came out at 5am and helped clean up the mess

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students were pitching in to clean up the city after Wednesday night’s demonstrations: “Berkeley students showed up at 5am in the rain this morning to clean up the plaza and nearby city streets. That’s the story that should be told this morning!”


I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1

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except all those damned monkeys on the left coast came out at 5am and helped clean up the mess

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students were pitching in to clean up the city after Wednesday night’s demonstrations: “Berkeley students showed up at 5am in the rain this morning to clean up the plaza and nearby city streets. That’s the story that should be told this morning!”



that's good to see - because there are more people like this on both sides of the debate than there are those truly "despicable" on the fringes. despite what the media tries to feed us

1 - maybe some feeling guilty after the mess they made
2 - maybe more just wanting to clean up the mess of "those assholes that made a mockery of what should have been our peaceful demonstration"
3 - maybe more that just like their neighborhood to be a good place to be

whatever reason, ..... it's good to see. we need more info like this once in a while - about people on any side of the aisle.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

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Instead of letting him make an ass out of himself they turned him into a martyr.
I remember many years ago when the KKK wanted to march in Marietta Oh and they were almost banned. If they had been then locals would only have their brochures to go by, the ones making them out to be some kind of heroes protecting white women. As it is they saw a bunch of toothless morons with belt sizes larger than their IQs.
I wonder if this guy even had a speech written for that night, of if he actually got exactly what he wanted.

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normiss

Unsure of the intent of "those damned monkeys", but there are slobs everywhere.
I pick up a LOT of trash in our town.
Be a good citizen, lend a hand.



It was in response to Brenthutch's comment about "liberal monkeys" protesting @ NYU and his rant yesterday
I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1

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Agents provocateur
Agents provocateur
Most of the problems, fires, etc. were caused by agents provocateur.
Welcome to German politics circa 1933. Remember that Hitler did not suddenly rise to power on his charm and goods looks. Adolf Hitler and his national socialist party rose to power because they had better-organized street thugs who intimidated rival political parties. Once they go into power Nazis set fire to the Reichstad, then wrecked Jewish businesses during Krystalnacht, then started imprisoning communists, homosexuals, jews, gypsies, etc. Next thing we knew, Nazis were laying waste the Soviet Union.
Recent political events scare me. They scare me because politics are becoming incredibly shallow and narrow-minded and polarized.
Canadian politics are not significantly better, merely a year or two behind American trends.

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Canadian politics are not significantly better, merely a year or two behind American trends.



Well, let's compare our leaders talking about tech:

You have: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eak_ogYMprk

We have: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz25BHy_9mk

I'd say there is still a helluva gap there.
"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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O'leary....................................trump
no hair....................................no real hair
Populist...................................Populist
Reality TV Star..........................Reality TV Star
$400 million..............................$7 Billion less than he claims
Arrogant...................................Arrogant on steroids
Private Schooled........................No evidence of schooling
Unilingual-English........................Unilingual-trumpspeak
Straight talker............................Invented trumpspeak
Free Trade.................................Isolationist anti-trade
Thinks for Self............................ Lets bannon do thinking
Globalization...............................Anti-trade
Height 5'9".................................1" shorter than he represents
No Deficit...................................Deficit-OK
Hates Liberals..............................Hates Liberals
Likes shooting Guns......................Likes to shoot own feet
Think G.W.Bush Populist.................Only one trump

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Phil1111

O'leary....................................trump
no hair....................................no real hair
Populist...................................Populist
Reality TV Star..........................Reality TV Star
$400 million..............................$7 Billion less than he claims
Arrogant...................................Arrogant on steroids
Private Schooled........................No evidence of schooling
Unilingual-English........................Unilingual-trumpspeak
Straight talker............................Invented trumpspeak
Free Trade.................................Isolationist anti-trade
Thinks for Self............................ Lets bannon do thinking
Globalization...............................Anti-trade
Height 5'9".................................1" shorter than he represents
No Deficit...................................Deficit-OK
Hates Liberals..............................Hates Liberals
Likes shooting Guns......................Likes to shoot own feet
Think G.W.Bush Populist.................Only one trump



If you're interested in Mr. Leary, this might be enlightening -
"People in the investment community are turning on him over the performance and management style of his funds—a business, it turns out, that is less forgiving than reality TV."

(source: http://www.nationalobserver.com/2016/01/26/news/real-and-shocking-story-kevin-olearys-business-career)

And this: "O'Leary's main home has been in Boston, Massachusetts, in the United States since the early 1990s. He has not committed to moving back to Canada full-time if he wins the Conservative Party leadership race."

(source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_O'Leary#Personal_life)

We are not immune from bombastic carpet-baggers.

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