on Inauguration Day how much devastation will be wrought

[muff528 3]

quade

******On the other hand, they don't always get arrested.

Then, they must not be providing value to their employers. (On the other hand, if they form a union, they won't be required to). I assumed that it was their job to commit offenses and get arrested to protect Mr. Blow. So, if they don't have to get arrested to get paid, where do I sign up? I'd work just about every day.

What you're suggesting would be akin to never paying a body guard unless an actual attack takes place. I think it should be obvious how foolish that line of thinking would be.

If you'd like to go to work in Washington DC as one, it's pretty trivial. Hang out in Lafayette Square just north of the White House and look around.

Well, distant kin. A bodyguard is paid to be available to respond to, or prevent, an attack. A demonstrator can either do something unlawful that can get him arrested or not. His choice. Probably should be different pay scales for paid demonstrators which are determined by "how far" they go. I'm starting to like the idea of union pay grades for these jobs based on skills, tenure, etc. Why should a rock-thrower be paid the same as a police-car-burner?

[quade 3]

You're just being silly.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[muff528 3]

"Absurd" would probably be more accurate. Ok, "silly", too.

[DJL 232]

quade

I'm not going to explain the whole Washington DC professional protester thing, but know it's a thing and for the most part it tends to be done to protect the relative innocent (nascent) people who would otherwise want to stand on the front line and be arrested. The professionals are the ones expected to insert themselves at the front and get arrested when the time comes giving other people time to escape.

Pretty much every major protest I've ever seen in DC going as far back as I can remember. AND, I might add, this happens almost every day, 365 days a year.

Movement leaders are expected to be arrested, professional protesters are expected to be arrested, Joe Blow average guy who showed up . . . not so much.

I'll be honest, I've never heard of this as a common thing and I grew up in and around Washington D.C. Plenty of politicians will dump a bus full of Young Republicans or Democrats in front of something but for protests I've never heard of people being paid to form some sort of front line. For anything serious there are never a shortage of people willing to get in someone's face. To me it seems that paying people to do something inherently illegal at an otherwise sanctioned protest would quickly come unraveled the moment these paid protesters were told that no charges would get pressed if they would provide information on someone paying them to commit this act.

Protests in DC usually come with a police escort and the assistance of the city. I've rarely seen anything turn sour, with the exception of racial issues.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[quade 3]

DJL

To me it seems that paying people to do something inherently illegal at an otherwise sanctioned protest would quickly come unraveled the moment these paid protesters were told that no charges would get pressed if they would provide information on someone paying them to commit this act.

Nobody is paying anyone to do anything, "inherently illegal." It is not "inherently illegal" to be in a protest nor be the first people between a crowd and police.

I'll admit the last time I personally witnessed this in DC was decades ago (just a geography situation, I don't live in DC but was covering a few things going on back then). My understanding is it predated that time and continues to this day though. I've witnessed it more recently at other demonstrations in other cities with people being designated arrestees (usually trained for that specific task).

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[normiss 622]

I'm more interested in the significant cover-up of paid protesters.
It seems impossible to find ANY proof on the internets.

[quade 3]

And I don't think you will.

There's not really anything to cover up. It would be like trying to find stuff on the internet about covering up day workers standing outside of Home Depot. Are there people there? Sure. Are they day hires? Sure. Is there something illegal going on? Eh, not really, but I guess in some people's minds, but holy hell it's how those trees got chopped up down the street and nobody really gives a poop.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[normiss 622]

I can find endless sources of information on day workers, yet still nothing on paid protestors other than false stories.

[quade 3]

Did you really try?

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/crowd-hiring-politics-campaign-2016/399002/

https://crowdsondemand.com

https://www.occupycorporatism.com/political-candidates-hire-crowds-on-demand-to-increase-voter-support/

One man's "rally" is another man's "protest march."

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[DJL 232]

quade

***To me it seems that paying people to do something inherently illegal at an otherwise sanctioned protest would quickly come unraveled the moment these paid protesters were told that no charges would get pressed if they would provide information on someone paying them to commit this act.

Nobody is paying anyone to do anything, "inherently illegal." It is not "inherently illegal" to be in a protest nor be the first people between a crowd and police.

I'll admit the last time I personally witnessed this in DC was decades ago (just a geography situation, I don't live in DC but was covering a few things going on back then). My understanding is it predated that time and continues to this day though. I've witnessed it more recently at other demonstrations in other cities with people being designated arrestees (usually trained for that specific task).

I'll add that I've never gone to a protest as a participant. My observations are that unless the clan is there or people chain themselves to something you won't see any arrests. Even the arrests with people chaining themselves to the whitehouse gate seem mostly ceremonial. The cops stand there and let the person do it, the press takes pictures and then the cops step in and arrest the people, pretty mundane affairs. I guess the good old days when people threw paint and caused a ruckus went out when that age group traded the busted down VW for Volvo station wagons.

It might also just be a DC thing because I see much more turbulent protesting in other parts of the country. DC leans to the left more than any city outside of Vermont so you won't see groups clashing.

Edit:
As far as the fake crowds go...Oh God yes, and it's so fake to see from the inside. Over the summer growing up I worked for a rental company setting up for events at the Capitol Building, among venues. The place would be entirely dead and then a bus pulls up, unloads a crowd, the event starts, everyone cheers on demand and then everyone gets back on the bus and the place goes quiet again.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[normiss 622]

Yes, didn't find those anywhere.
You're correct that I used the term "protestor" in my search.

[quade 3]

normiss

Yes, didn't find those anywhere.
You're correct that I used the term "protestor" in my search.

It's cool. You just need to step up your google-fu and remember services are almost always advertised in a positive rather than negative frame of reference.

As I said, one man's rally is another man's blah, blah, blah.

This is possibly even why Rush doesn't believe it happens at any Republican protests. He's only seeing them as positive "rallies."

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[kallend 1,623]

DJL

. I guess the good old days when people threw paint and caused a ruckus went out when that age group traded the busted down VW for Volvo station wagons.

Traded mine for a Subaru wagon.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[nigel99 143]

quade

***To me it seems that paying people to do something inherently illegal at an otherwise sanctioned protest would quickly come unraveled the moment these paid protesters were told that no charges would get pressed if they would provide information on someone paying them to commit this act.

Nobody is paying anyone to do anything, "inherently illegal." It is not "inherently illegal" to be in a protest nor be the first people between a crowd and police.

I'll admit the last time I personally witnessed this in DC was decades ago (just a geography situation, I don't live in DC but was covering a few things going on back then). My understanding is it predated that time and continues to this day though. I've witnessed it more recently at other demonstrations in other cities with people being designated arrestees (usually trained for that specific task).

In the USA it's the black guy that gets arrested right?

Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

[kallend 1,623]

Has FOX got out of the fake news business?

youtu.be/WQuo_Tl43rY

www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/18/tucker-carlsons-surprising-much-needed-takedown-of-a-paid-protester-hoax/?utm_term=.3917f106be24

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[normiss 622]

You'll have to ask Quade as my fu is too weak to verify fake news on fake protesters being fake paid.

[ryoder 1,381]

kallend

Has FOX got out of the fake news business?

youtu.be/WQuo_Tl43rY

www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/18/tucker-carlsons-surprising-much-needed-takedown-of-a-paid-protester-hoax/?utm_term=.3917f106be24

Well, that was entertaining, but I really wish the video & audio weren't so far out of sync.

"...and we want the Roswell documents released and put into the hands of Fisher Stevens."
ROTLMAO!!!

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[DJL 232]

kallend

Has FOX got out of the fake news business?

youtu.be/WQuo_Tl43rY

www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/18/tucker-carlsons-surprising-much-needed-takedown-of-a-paid-protester-hoax/?utm_term=.3917f106be24

It's good to see that. I think they're sick of being cast in the same light at Breitbart, etc. they know that eventually there will be a President up there pointing at them and saying "Fake News" if they stay on the track they were on.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[quade 3]

kallend

Has FOX got out of the fake news business?
youtu.be/WQuo_Tl43rY
www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/18/tucker-carlsons-surprising-much-needed-takedown-of-a-paid-protester-hoax/?utm_term=.3917f106be24

Similar to the Yes Men group and early members of Anonymous. Just fucking with the media for giggles.

Not helpful for anyone though.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[millertime24 8]

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on Inauguration Day how much devastation will be wrought

Like this?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-inauguration-protest-damages-downtown-washington/

I thought colleges were supposed to set up safe spaces with aroma therapy, hot chocolate, coloring books and psychological support for these individuals.

Muff #5048

[gowlerk 1,904]

I was listening to NPR covering that live. Apparently a group of about 100 idiots dressed in black went down the street smashing things to attract attention. Then when the police responded they attacked the police. It took a while for enough help to arrive to arrest them.

They should all do at least some time. They deserve it.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[brenthutch 383]

The Right was mocked and ridiculed by Jon Stewart et al for wanting to "take back their country." I wonder what he thinks now that the shoe is on the other foot.

[gowlerk 1,904]

brenthutch

The Right was mocked and ridiculed by Jon Stewart et al for wanting to "take back their country." I wonder what he thinks now that the shoe is on the other foot.

At least Jon Stewart is funny. Ridicule is a favourite of right wing media hosts. But none of them are funny.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[jakee 1,254]

brenthutch

The Right was mocked and ridiculed by Jon Stewart et al for wanting to "take back their country." I wonder what he thinks now that the shoe is on the other foot.

What do you mean the shoe is on the other foot? It is still the right that is running with the message of taking back the country. Trump's whole inauguration speech was about trying to take back the country.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[brenthutch 383]

It was the sentiment that was expressed on several placards during the anti-Trump rallies I was watching this morning.