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JerryBaumchen

Hi rush,

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What the f*** are you talking about?



I have to give you credit, you continually demonstrate your inability to comprehend the English language as written.

Jerry Baumchen




And you are just as much off the rails as he is
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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quade

No comrade Rush, it is you who lost it several months ago.

In your absolute hate for Hillary (see you post two back from this), you've lost the ability to tell the difference between winning over her and handing over the US to a puppet of Russia.

A number of us have been talking about that very point for months while you've somehow completely ignored it. All you've ever cared about in this entire election cycle was "winning" over Hillary.

Okay, battle won, but you've lost the country.

Proud of yourself?



That is called a Pyrrhic victory. (Rush will have to look it up.)

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Faicon9493

***No comrade Rush, it is you who lost it several months ago.

In your absolute hate for Hillary (see you post two back from this), you've lost the ability to tell the difference between winning over her and handing over the US to a puppet of Russia.

A number of us have been talking about that very point for months while you've somehow completely ignored it. All you've ever cared about in this entire election cycle was "winning" over Hillary.

Okay, battle won, but you've lost the country.

Proud of yourself?



That is called a Pyrrhic victory. (Rush will have to look it up.)

No he won't
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Mabe you should get out while you still can. Seeing how the paranoia is overrun your ability to think logically
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Faicon9493

***Mabe you should get out while you still can. Seeing how the paranoia is overrun your ability to think logically



If I wasn't able to think logically, I would have voted for DJT.

I find it incredibly hysterical that you and others here seem to think that Donald Trump has enough power to do that type of damage to this country. And then you say you can think logically? Somehow that doesn't jive
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Meanwhile the butthurt losers are completely OK with the fact that Saudi Arabia and other gulf states, are bombing children in Yemen as we speak with Us and allied weapons, also starving the entire nation. While they are chummy with Clinton and donate many millions of $$ to her.

Yet Trump is the racist bigot that hates women, posters that are visiting the UAE to go skydiving are bad and support totalitarian regimes and the DNC purposefully shafting Bernie is all OK.

It is OK that she had a private server hosting classified information and lied about it, its is ok that all the findings in the wikileaks are all completely true, it's ok that they had no real security on this information...

Just as long as a Democratic party candidate wins.

Otherwise it is all Russia's fault.

Now the drums if war over lies are in full swing and losers that want to be right, more than they want the truth, will be completely OK with going to war over lies... again.

Pretty much full retard.

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If Putin has a sense of humour he will now publish the classified version of the US intelligence report on Russian meddling in the election.
-- Tim Shipman (on Twitter)

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This is the paper that started the FSB and Putin to where they are today, sort of. A Russian general published a treatise on asymmetric warfare. It was published because he(and other Russian General leadership) recognized the limitations of Russian military and economic power.Vis-a-vis the US and NATO.

It also represents a response to the decline in Russian leadership in the former Warsaw pact. The Russian empire and former Soviet republics subsequent membership in NATO. Together with the response that the FSB, Russian military leadership and the kleptocracy of the Russian state under Putin. Have to the west.

First is an analysis published in the US army Military Review.
"Military Review is… An established Army forum to promote original thought and debate on topics related to the art and science of land warfare. Provides publishing opportunity to original thinkers drawn from a wide variety of eclectic backgrounds without regard to rank or official position."

http://usacac.army.mil/CAC2/MilitaryReview/Archives/English/MilitaryReview_20160228_art009.pdf

and another with additional analysis:
The author here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Galeotti

analysis here:
https://inmoscowsshadows.wordpress.com/2014/07/06/the-gerasimov-doctrine-and-russian-non-linear-war/

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rushmc

******Mabe you should get out while you still can. Seeing how the paranoia is overrun your ability to think logically



If I wasn't able to think logically, I would have voted for DJT.

I find it incredibly hysterical that you and others here seem to think that Donald Trump has enough power to do that type of damage to this country. And then you say you can think logically? Somehow that doesn't jive

God bless you brother!

I admire your energy and tenacity required to deal with the whining, intellectualizing, socialist, liberals posting here. I read this forum almost daily and I just can't find the motivation to respond to their carryings on.

On the morning of 9 Nov I felt such a relief, a lightening of my soul that there was no argument left in me. By divine intervention America has been given another chance. The greatest manifest evil this country has known since Andrew Jackson or Woodrow Wilson has been subdued. I pray that we take full advantage of this God given opportunity.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

*********Mabe you should get out while you still can. Seeing how the paranoia is overrun your ability to think logically



If I wasn't able to think logically, I would have voted for DJT.

I find it incredibly hysterical that you and others here seem to think that Donald Trump has enough power to do that type of damage to this country. And then you say you can think logically? Somehow that doesn't jive

God bless you brother!

I admire your energy and tenacity required to deal with the whining, intellectualizing, socialist, liberals posting here. I read this forum almost daily and I just can't find the motivation to respond to their carryings on.

On the morning of 9 Nov I felt such a relief, a lightening of my soul that there was no argument left in me. By divine intervention America has been given another chance. The greatest manifest evil this country has known since Andrew Jackson or Woodrow Wilson has been subdued. I pray that we take full advantage of this God given opportunity.

So, you think HE would have picked DJT?

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RonD1120

I believe God allowed Trump to become president. I also believe He allowed BHO to be president.



Just like he allows little children to die of cancer or starve, Stalin and Mao to come to power, the Inquisition to torture and burn people alive...

Pretty lenient guy, allows all kinds of stuff to happen, good and bad.
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kallend

Just like he allows little children to die of cancer or starve, Stalin and Mao to come to power, the Inquisition to torture and burn people alive...

Pretty lenient guy, allows all kinds of stuff to happen, good and bad.



Oh no! Dat's da work of da Debil.
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Ron's view is centred around wishing and hoping for the end times and the second coming. He sees all events through this lens. BHO leads directly to Trump and then the end times. Surely you can see that. The suffering of children is just collateral damage in the Great Arc of God's plan.

It's really no more or less outlandish than fundamentalist Islam, or Judaism, or many other faith traditions. As long as people like this remain essentially powerless they are relatively harmless. If they had the power they would be every bit as evil as any jihadi.

All for our own good of course.

I mostly just give people room to believe in whatever God they choose. But I watch them carefully because I know that zealots of all stripes have the potential to do great harm if they are enabled.

But that's not why Trump is embracing the Russians. I suspect that is because of the alt right influence. The rulers of Russia are white people fighting against the evil Muslims. I'm starting to think that is why he sees common cause with them. There has to be some reason, it's not random.
Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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The common central theme of all religion is the celebration of death.
That's rather messed up to me and I'll never understand nor accept it.
I chose the polar opposite at every opportunity.
Hoping and praying for the world to end is quite insane.

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normiss

The common central theme of all religion is the celebration of death.



Anthropologists would say religion was created as a result of primitive burial ceremonies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_religion

I get it. I would have thought we'd grown out of it, but I can see where it's helpful for some people.
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Anthropologists would say religion was created as a result of primitive burial ceremonies.



My feeling is that religion was important in structuring and organizing societies. The most successful tribes had the most powerful Gods. Not that much has changed it seems.

Putin uses the levers of religion to help him maintain control.
Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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Anthropologists would say religion was created as a result of primitive burial ceremonies.



My feeling is that religion was important in structuring and organizing societies. The most successful tribes had the most powerful Gods. Not that much has changed it seems.

Putin uses the levers of religion to help him maintain control.



I can agree with that.

Most "kings" got their authority from "god." It's a powerful weapon of control to have.

It's also one of the reasons we (the US) told King George to go fuck himself.

That said, I'm surprised (okay maybe not so much) at how much the difference the US shows to some current "kings" who also maintain control of their people through religion. KSA for instance. Pure bullshit.
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normiss

The common central theme of all religion is the celebration of death.
That's rather messed up to me and I'll never understand nor accept it.
I chose the polar opposite at every opportunity.
Hoping and praying for the world to end is quite insane.



Actually, its the opposite.

Think about it.

Resurrection, heaven, eternity, "for ever and ever", all that garbage. But just for humans. And the "good" ones get 'paradise', while the "bad" ones get eternal suffering (more about power, more on that in a bit).

Its simply a way to avoid the simple reality that death is the end.

Religion also offers power to those in charge (do what I say, or your eternity won't be much fun).
"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

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I feel this thread slipping away. Straight to the eternal fires! My favourite writing on this subject comes from the song "When I die", written by a sixteen year old American schoolgirl named Laura Nyro. The words of wisdom are. of course:

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I swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. But I'll never know by living only my dying will tell.


Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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normiss

Maybe praying would help then?
:D



Kinda depends on the prayer.

If its something like "God, please give those idiots a revelation and make them see the truth, and if they can't see the truth then just smite them from the face of the earth", then I pretty much doubt it.

If it is instead something like "God, help me be polite, truthful and accurate in what I post. Help me see the other person's point of view and to remember that they have their opinions too, opinions that deserve respect and consideration", then its entirely possible that the posts would improve.

Unfortunately, most religious folks think that their God is more like Santa, and will pray the first one.
"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

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