On Fox, Trump Supporter Carl Higbie Cites Japanese Internment Camps As "Precedent" For Muslim Registry

[cruelpops 0]

Yup, just like they did in Germany in the 30's.

But still, rushmc will not believe it. Something about head in the sand or something; my memory is not so good anymore.

Also, Hitler put a lot of thugs into top positions; hmmmmmm.

Jerry Baumchen


Good grief... you are a gigantic drama queen.

[ryoder 1,381]

Nazis Call Trump's Plan for Muslims 'Derivative'

WASHINGTON – In an intellectual property lawsuit filed in federal court on Thursday, a group of prominent Nazis accused President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team of “intentionally copying” key tenets of their political ideology for use in their Administration’s policy-making. Rinehart Krolz, the Delaware-based Nazi who organized the lawsuit, said specifically that the Trump camp’s plan to register Muslims and track their movements was so “derivative of our copyrighted material” that he and fellow Nazis felt compelled to file the suit. “As much as we Nazis may agree with a lot of things Donald Trump is doing, at the end of the day we have to protect our brand,” Krolz said.

-- Andy Borowitz

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rushmc 18]

quade

So, let's get you on the record then.

Rush, do you believe all Muslims in the US should be registered into a government database?

You can just answer yes or no. It's a simple question.

No

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

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cruelpops

Yup, just like they did in Germany in the 30's.

But still, rushmc will not believe it. Something about head in the sand or something; my memory is not so good anymore.

Also, Hitler put a lot of thugs into top positions; hmmmmmm.

Jerry Baumchen


Good grief... you are a gigantic drama queen.

True that!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[ryoder 1,381]

Bolas

We need better control over all immigration, legal and especially illegal. If an immigrant/refugee is from the Middle East, additional vetting and tracking may be needed, regardless of their stated religion which may or may not be true.

And how many people who claim "we need more vetting", actually know how the vetting is being done currently???

http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Bolas 5]

ryoder

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We need better control over all immigration, legal and especially illegal. If an immigrant/refugee is from the Middle East, additional vetting and tracking may be needed, regardless of their stated religion which may or may not be true.

And how many people who claim "we need more vetting", actually know how the vetting is being done currently???

http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/

That's just for Syria. Plenty of other countries in the area that similar measures may be needed.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[jakee 1,254]

BartsDaddy

Well you could argue it is a duty, but the amendment to let women vote clearly states it as a right.

It also specifically states that the right to vote is a right held by citizens...

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[mr2mk1g 10]

So for muslamics clearly it'll be a crescent moon, that's obvs.

But what shape badge will it be for the Mexicans? A taco? Or would that look to similar to a crescent moon? Both groups are kinda brownish after all.

[kallend 1,621]

14th Amendment.

... nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

PERSON, not CITIZEN nor LEGAL RESIDENT.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[BartsDaddy 4]

kallend

14th Amendment.

... nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

PERSON, not CITIZEN nor LEGAL RESIDENT.

I don't know why your posting that to me. I am not arguing to deprive anybody of any rights.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[billvon 2,384]

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If an immigrant/refugee is from the Middle East, additional vetting and tracking may be needed, regardless of their stated religion which may or may not be true.

If we have better vetting available, why would we not apply it to everyone? It seems foolish to give terrorists an easier way in.

[SkyDekker 1,121]

billvon

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If an immigrant/refugee is from the Middle East, additional vetting and tracking may be needed, regardless of their stated religion which may or may not be true.

If we have better vetting available, why would we not apply it to everyone? It seems foolish to give terrorists an easier way in.

And does this better vetting apply to a Christian fleeing Iran, but not a Muslim immigrating from Indonesia?

Seems foolish indeed.

[ryoder 1,381]

"I'm Spartacus!"
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/306715-anti-defamation-league-ceo-ill-register-as-muslim-if-trump-makes

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[airdvr 197]

Bolas

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We need better control over all immigration, legal and especially illegal. If an immigrant/refugee is from the Middle East, additional vetting and tracking may be needed, regardless of their stated religion which may or may not be true.

And how many people who claim "we need more vetting", actually know how the vetting is being done currently???

http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/

That's just for Syria. Plenty of other countries in the area that similar measures may be needed.

I guess my concern about the vetting process from the ME is one of whom to believe. I'm pretty certain that if you call INS in Aleppo today the only sound you'll get is one of bombs exploding. And a call to the Saudis might get some sort of non sensical response on whether Haji was a good person while he was in Ryad.

To me it's the same as when the distraught mother of the gunman says "he was such a good boy".

Back in the 80's Castro shit all of his prisons on us. I'll bet if you had called City Hall in Havana they might not have mentioned Raul's penchant for knives.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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billvon

Registry for Muslims - perfectly OK. A few Muslims might be dangerous, after all. Better safe than sorry. If it protects Americans, it's worth the minor inconvenience. And no one will abuse it.

Registry for guns - what are you, Hitler?

Well, democrats are in favor of registering guns and gun owners, because a few of them might end up becoming criminals.

So what's the difference with registering muslim from a terrorist nation because a few of them might be terrorists?

If it's good enough for American gun owners, it ought to be good enough for muslim immigrants.

[Erroll 49]

mr2mk1g

So for muslamics clearly it'll be a crescent moon, that's obvs.

But what shape badge will it be for the Mexicans? A taco? Or would that look to similar to a crescent moon? Both groups are kinda brownish after all.

Muslim (Islam) is a religion, not a race or nationality.

[billvon 2,384]

>If it's good enough for American gun owners, it ought to be good enough for
>muslim immigrants.

Yes. If Republicans require registration of all gun owners, they would have a stronger argument for registration of Muslims. (Still not a great argument, but a less hypocritical one at least.) Do you support registration of gun owners?

[Bolas 5]

billvon

>If it's good enough for American gun owners, it ought to be good enough for
>muslim immigrants.

Yes. If Republicans require registration of all gun owners, they would have a stronger argument for registration of Muslims. (Still not a great argument, but a less hypocritical one at least.) Do you support registration of gun owners?

No silly, per our current gun laws and anti-gun movements, it's not the people or act that is important, it's the tools/associations.
Blaming gun violence on the guns makes as much sense as blaming Islamic terrorism on all Muslims.

Perhaps now it's deal time, one side stops blaming violence on guns and the other will stop blaming all Muslims for terrorism.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[quade 3]

Bolas

Perhaps now it's deal time, one side stops blaming violence on guns and the other will stop blaming all Muslims for terrorism.

No. No deal. People and guns are not equivalent. I do not and will not ever equate the human rights of people to live with the rights of objects to exist.

Feel free to quibble and parse that any terms you want, but that's all you'll be doing and it's bullshit.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[SkyDekker 1,121]

quade

***Perhaps now it's deal time, one side stops blaming violence on guns and the other will stop blaming all Muslims for terrorism.

No. No deal. People and guns are not equivalent. I do not and will not ever equate the human rights of people to live with the rights of objects to exist.

Feel free to quibble and parse that any terms you want, but that's all you'll be doing and it's bullshit.

+1

[nolhtairt 0]

Bolas

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This is all about immigrants, legal and illegal, and refugees. Not American citizens.

Are you in favor of immigrants being required to:

A) State their religion for the record, and

B) Being placed on a list if that religion is one of the many forms of Islam?

We need better control over all immigration, legal and especially illegal. If an immigrant/refugee is from the Middle East, additional vetting and tracking may be needed, regardless of their stated religion which may or may not be true.

Agreed. We do NOT need to make the mistakes Germany made bringing in thousands of unvetted Syrian refugees with bad mofos embedded within. They've got a clusterfuck to deal with.

[billvon 2,384]

>Agreed. We do NOT need to make the mistakes Germany made bringing in
>thousands of unvetted Syrian refugees with bad mofos embedded within.

Yes. Fortunately we did not make that mistake.

[wmw999 2,117]

Partly because there's an ocean to cross to get here. Makes things easier for us. But we probably earned that, too

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[rushmc 18]

billvon

>If it's good enough for American gun owners, it ought to be good enough for
>muslim immigrants.

Yes. If Republicans require registration of all gun owners, they would have a stronger argument for registration of Muslims. (Still not a great argument, but a less hypocritical one at least.) Do you support registration of gun owners?

And visa versa

Do you support registration of all Muslims?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,254]

nolhtairt

Agreed. We do NOT need to make the mistakes Germany made bringing in thousands of unvetted Syrian refugees with bad mofos embedded within. They've got a clusterfuck to deal with.

Luckily those thousands of Syrians haven't yet started walking over the atlantic the way they walked through the Balkans to Germany.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?