Trump won because...

[JerryBaumchen 1,261]

Hi Peter,

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if one gives the right wingers the benefit of the doubt

This what they thought in Germany in the early 30's.

Jerry Baumchen

[rushmc 18]

gowlerk

Obviously not all Trump supporters are white racists. But also likely all the white supremacists who voted supported Trump. Here's a nice example.

http://time.com/4571315/west-virginia-michelle-obama-ape-heels/

But the KKK support for Hillary doesn't count, right?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

JerryBaumchen

Hi Peter,

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if one gives the right wingers the benefit of the doubt

This what they thought in Germany in the early 30's.

Jerry Baumchen

Oh wow! There is an old page from The Playbook the Democrats have used for years coming back to be seen.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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Some right wing people say the left wing people just didn't understand the desire for change in the Washington power structure. That's why Trump won, they say. But It's not that some of us aren't aware of problems in that regard. The negatives of Trump so totally disqualify him to be president in our minds.

Sure Trump is a loud mouth, arrogant, non-politically correct, definitely was a player when he was younger jackass. But he hasn't killed anyone ... at least not yet.

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Sure, Hillary may be a sleazy power hungry Washington politician, and more so than most, but at least she's a reasonable politician and able to act like a rational human being.

Right ... so Clinton is a rational person who:

1) Pushed the USA government to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi, turning Libya upside down where tens of thousands were killed and the country is an anarchist cesspool. Why? All because Gaddafi wanted to turn to gold as the international trading standard and dump the US Dollar and turn away from the unelected, unaccountable and never audited non-governmental Federal Reserve.

2) As a result of Obama and Clinton's war mongering in Libya, this destabilized North Africa allowing Islamic terrorism to thrive and spread. Benghazi followed soon after, where Clinton blamed it on an internet video and Barack Obama himself stood up in front of the world at the United Nations and continued the narrative that Benghazi was the result of a hate mongering video (don't worry Clinton made sure the film maker was punished).

3) Clinton threatened to nuke Iran. Was she serious? We'll never know. But when she said it, it didn't sound like a joke. Not something a rational person would ever dream of saying.

4) But that wasn't enough. The blood thirsty war mongering neo-con Obama and Clinton administration decided the next prize was Syria where they went after a regime change. All that shit Assad has done in his country is horrible. But don't ever forget that it was the USA who decided to start the proxy war in Syria with the Russians.

5) Yes Bush and his band of neo-con war mongers made a mess in Iraq. But Obama and Clinton made a shit storm of the entire middle east which has resulted in the refugee crisis in Europe. But the vast majority of the refugees aren't refugees. The vast majority are young men of military age.

6) Fast forward to this year where Clinton has been rattling her militaristic saber at the Russians in Syria telling them that under a Clinton presidency the USA would enact a no-fly zone in the country. Hopefully Clinton is smart enough to know this means shooting down Syrian and Russian Jets which I am afraid for low information voters means NATO would be at war with a major nuclear power and it wouldn't take much to make it all turn MAAD. But hey, nothing to worry about. Hillary, Bill, Chelsey and all their Hollywood celeb BFFs will be safe in the bunkers when the bombs start to fly. After all Barack Obama didn't spend a trillion dollars on a bunch of new nukes in his 8 years for nothing.

So yeah, Trump is clearly Hitler while Clinton is a rational humanitarian. Right. I didn't even mention the dirty Wall Street ties, Clinton's ties to the Saudis and other middle East pay to play disasters and then there is Haiti. Let's just not go there.

Hey isn't "Dancing with the Stars" on tonight?

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[billvon 2,723]

>1) Pushed the USA government to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi, turning Libya
>upside down where tens of thousands were killed and the country is an anarchist
>cesspool. Why? All because Gaddafi wanted to turn to gold as the international
>trading standard and dump the US Dollar and turn away from the unelected,
>unaccountable and never audited non-governmental Federal Reserve.

Or because he has been a state sponsor of terrorism for 30 odd years. Makes a lot more sense to kill him than kill Saddam Hussein,

[cruelpops 0]

Trump won because of the arrogance of the dumb shit liberal faction that kept them home on election day because a good majority of them didn't think it was necessary to vote because they thought that criminal bitch Clinton was a lock. That same arrogance led them to believe they were entitled to the presidency and didn't realize that they now have people they can't trust within their own party.

So what do you get? A bunch of lib-tard-jack-ass-oxygen-thieves that are whining like a bunch of little bitches looking for their "safe zone" because they thought they were well on their way to ramping up their tax-funded programs for wall-to-wall socialism; strict gun control and free hand-outs for everyone and now they don't even get a participation trophy. SUCK IT!

[CanuckInUSA 0]

Yes 30 years ago Gaddafi did some bad shit. 30 years ago the Cold War was raging between the USA and the Soviet Union. 30 years ago women wore shoulder pads and 30 years ago I had hair. A lot can change in 30 years. Prior to your Libyan war (the Obama administration started), Gaddafi had calmed down. He was playing by your rules. Well playing by the rules until he decided to drop the US dollar and use gold instead. Then you killed him for it, and turned the Middle East upside down. Thanks for proving to me that you are ideolog war monger for trying to justify this action. Your lust for power is so strong, that you don't care at all about the shit storms you leave behind. How much money has Trump victory cost you? Millions? Perhaps more? And you say you care about the environment. Right.

Thanks to the voters in the rust belt (many of whom voted for Obama ... twice), I can sleep easy knowing that at least for the next four years I don't need to worry about a MAAD war with the Russians. Now a 2nd US Civil War? Hmmm ... I guess that will depend on how far Soros is willing to go.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[JerryBaumchen 1,261]

Hi rush,

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There is an old page from The Playbook . . .

Actually, it is from the pages of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 2,723]

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Yes 30 years ago Gaddafi did some bad shit. 30 years ago the Cold War was raging between the USA and the Soviet Union. 30 years ago women wore shoulder pads and 30 years ago I had hair. A lot can change in 30 years. Prior to your Libyan war (the Obama administration started), Gaddafi had calmed down. He was playing by your rules. Well playing by the rules until he decided to drop the US dollar and use gold instead. Then you killed him for it

Wow, I had no idea I had such skillz as an assassin . . . .

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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Wow, I had no idea I had such skillz as an assassin . . . .

You personally an assassin? No. But you said it in your own words, that "It made sense to kill Gaddafi".

Maybe to you.

Kill him and turn the Middle East (as well as Europe) into a giant shit storm, and all because Gaddafi wanted to use Gold instead of the almighty American dollar. The Obama administration would have none of that, and sent your military might to destroy a nation and you want people to think Clinton is some sort of honorable person? Dang you people are sick.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[mistercwood 287]

CanuckInUSA

You personally an assassin? No. But you said it in your own words, that "It made sense to kill Gaddafi".

When quoting someone, it's usually traditional to quote what they actually said, rather than what you think they said. Maybe go back and read Bill's post again?

You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly.

[jakee 1,340]

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1) Pushed the USA government to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi, turning Libya upside down where tens of thousands were killed and the country is an anarchist cesspool. Why? All because Gaddafi wanted to turn to gold as the international trading standard and dump the US Dollar and turn away from the unelected, unaccountable and never audited non-governmental Federal Reserve.

The Libyan civil war started and esalated all by itself before any UN forces got involved. Your claim is nothing more than revisionist history.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 18]

JerryBaumchen

Hi rush,

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There is an old page from The Playbook . . .

Actually, it is from the pages of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

Jerry Baumchen

In Democrat land there is no difference.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 1,822]

rushmc

***Obviously not all Trump supporters are white racists. But also likely all the white supremacists who voted supported Trump. Here's a nice example.

http://time.com/4571315/west-virginia-michelle-obama-ape-heels/

But the KKK support for Hillary doesn't count, right?

KKK's official support was for Trump.

www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500352353/kkk-paper-endorses-trump-campaign-calls-outlet-repulsive

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 18]

kallend

******Obviously not all Trump supporters are white racists. But also likely all the white supremacists who voted supported Trump. Here's a nice example.

http://time.com/4571315/west-virginia-michelle-obama-ape-heels/

But the KKK support for Hillary doesn't count, right?

KKK's official support was for Trump.

www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500352353/kkk-paper-endorses-trump-campaign-calls-outlet-repulsive

And one is just as irrelevant as the other.

But I know is it all one sided with you .....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 1,822]

rushmc

*********Obviously not all Trump supporters are white racists. But also likely all the white supremacists who voted supported Trump. Here's a nice example.

http://time.com/4571315/west-virginia-michelle-obama-ape-heels/

But the KKK support for Hillary doesn't count, right?

KKK's official support was for Trump.

www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500352353/kkk-paper-endorses-trump-campaign-calls-outlet-repulsive

And one is just as irrelevant as the other.

But I know is it all one sided with you .....

You are sadly misinformed.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[GeorgiaDon 355]

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But I know is it all one sided with you .....

Irony meters all over the universe just exploded!!!

Don

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[rushmc 18]

GeorgiaDon

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But I know is it all one sided with you .....

Irony meters all over the universe just exploded!!!

Don

you confuse liberal crap being thrown back at ya to what someone believes.

Both candidates had KKK support.

kallend only see's one.....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[gowlerk 2,097]

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But the KKK support for Hillary doesn't count, right?

Keystone Kop Klub?

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[normiss 723]

I prefer to think he's happily misinformed.
At least the insanity makes more sense if he is.

[normiss 723]

Hillary now leads by 1.2 million votes.

[mirage62 0]

Hey Buddy....stop beating your head against the wall. The EC was in place the entire time Obama was in power...would have been a great idea to change it then.

Of course if Hillary had won the EC but not the popular vote......

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[normiss 723]

The issue with it is the continued disenfranchising of voters.
Your vote doesn't count, the government will select the next leader.

Her margin is now bigger than the winning margins for John Kennedy and Richard Nixon.

I've said this for years and still wonder why so many people get so invested in it.
I prefer to laugh at it and mock the absurdity.

[wmw999 2,313]

It's only slightly less likely to change than the second amendment. High in the "don't sweat stuff you can't change" department.

The country:
a. has large swaths of land where mainly like-minded people live, in large part because of their ties to the land, ties to the community, and (former) ties to work
b. those large swaths of land don't attract the urban people who might break up that homogeneity

So until urban people start moving out of the cities (wait for gnashing of teeth because "things just aren't the way they were" and because, while property values go up, so do taxes), or even more rural people start moving into the cities (with increased crowding, wait for more self-segregation into like-minded communities within cities, as has always happened), it's not likely to change.

The best ways to get a more homogeneous country include some country-wide crisis (probably not a good thing), a lessening of mass communication (low on the likely tree), or mixing of all those people.

Those ties to the land, family, and community are good things. I miss them, and I'm trying to build them where I am. Everyone learns from each other, rather than feeling disdainful of things they don't think are a problem to miss.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[rushmc 18]

normiss

Hillary now leads by 1.2 million votes.

And it means exactly nothing.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln