Montana incest/rape case WTF?

[quade 3]

Can somebody help me out here and explain WTF is up in Montana?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/20/498676414/montana-judge-faces-call-for-impeachment-after-incest-sentencing

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[gowlerk 1,911]

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Can somebody help me out here and explain WTF is up in Montana?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/20/498676414/montana-judge-faces-call-for-impeachment-after-incest-sentencing

Simple. The judge, along with the rest of the victim's family values keeping the patriarch of the family in place over punishing him. What's hard to understand? Everyone involved probably thinks it is at least partly the victim's fault for being just so darn cute and easy to seduce. They all agree that it's wrong, but excusable, because God made men that way and sometimes they slip.

And the judge is about to retire anyway. Otherwise he would never have had the guts.

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[crazydaisy315 0]

That was the part that floored me, the mother of the little girl and the grandmother specifically asked that he not be sent to prison. Lock him up, throw away the key, then fill the prison in with cement. No loss.

[gowlerk 1,911]

I'm going to get hate mail for this, but here goes. Many, possibly most families in this situation would beg for mercy and chose forgiveness over a 100 year sentence with a minimum of 25 years served.

That penalty is excessive, and despite his crime he is a loved part of the family. On the other hand, the 60 days is completely inadequate. That is why this story is making international news. The fault lies not only with the judge, but with the rigid system imposed on him.

There is plenty of room for disagreement on the appropriate sentence, but in my mind something in the range of 8 to 10 years with at least 5 served would be correct. Punishment and deterrence must both be part of sentencing. The sentence given does not do either of these principles justice.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[TriGirl 268]

gowlerk

***Can somebody help me out here and explain WTF is up in Montana?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/20/498676414/montana-judge-faces-call-for-impeachment-after-incest-sentencing

Simple. The judge, along with the rest of the victim's family values keeping the patriarch of the family in place over punishing him. What's hard to understand? Everyone involved probably thinks it is at least partly the victim's fault for being just so darn cute and easy to seduce.


According to the judge, one factor in his determination was that the victim didn't testify (or an advocate for the victim). So the victim's mother and grandmother chose to advocate for the "welfare" of the two boys over standing up for their daughter/granddaughter. WTF?? We're putting the onus on a 12-year-old (possibly 13 by this time) girl to get up in front of all the adults who have proven they are not on her side and testify?? There should be a petition to remove the girl from that home, since it's obvious she isn't safe there.

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TriGirl

******Can somebody help me out here and explain WTF is up in Montana?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/20/498676414/montana-judge-faces-call-for-impeachment-after-incest-sentencing

Simple. The judge, along with the rest of the victim's family values keeping the patriarch of the family in place over punishing him. What's hard to understand? Everyone involved probably thinks it is at least partly the victim's fault for being just so darn cute and easy to seduce.


According to the judge, one factor in his determination was that the victim didn't testify (or an advocate for the victim). So the victim's mother and grandmother chose to advocate for the "welfare" of the two boys over standing up for their daughter/granddaughter. WTF?? We're putting the onus on a 12-year-old (possibly 13 by this time) girl to get up in front of all the adults who have proven they are not on her side and testify?? There should be a petition to remove the girl from that home, since it's obvious she isn't safe there.

This, a thousand times this.

[jakee 1,254]

gowlerk

I'm going to get hate mail for this, but here goes. Many, possibly most families in this situation would beg for mercy and chose forgiveness over a 100 year sentence with a minimum of 25 years served.

That penalty is excessive, and despite his crime he is a loved part of the family. On the other hand, the 60 days is completely inadequate. That is why this story is making international news. The fault lies not only with the judge, but with the rigid system imposed on him.

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Dude.....

Fuck you.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[gowlerk 1,911]

TriGirl

******Can somebody help me out here and explain WTF is up in Montana?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/20/498676414/montana-judge-faces-call-for-impeachment-after-incest-sentencing

Simple. The judge, along with the rest of the victim's family values keeping the patriarch of the family in place over punishing him. What's hard to understand? Everyone involved probably thinks it is at least partly the victim's fault for being just so darn cute and easy to seduce.


According to the judge, one factor in his determination was that the victim didn't testify (or an advocate for the victim). So the victim's mother and grandmother chose to advocate for the "welfare" of the two boys over standing up for their daughter/granddaughter. WTF?? We're putting the onus on a 12-year-old (possibly 13 by this time) girl to get up in front of all the adults who have proven they are not on her side and testify?? There should be a petition to remove the girl from that home, since it's obvious she isn't safe there.



It is quite possible, even likely, that the reason she did not testify is pressure from her family. The possibility of a 100 year sentence would put her under an enormous burden.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[BartsDaddy 4]

It's also posible they wanted him free, so in a litle while he will disappear.

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[quade 3]

BartsDaddy

It's also posible they wanted him free, so in a litle while he will disappear.

I think it's more than a little tin-foil hat to think the family and judge colluded to give him a ludicrously short sentence just so they can kill him when he gets out.

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[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

Hi Paul,

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Montana incest/rape case

And just the opposite here in Oregon:

http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2016/10/higher_court_calls_judge_vindi.html



Jerry Baumchen