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***Bottom Line:
HRC is a Progressive/Liberal/Socialist.
DT is a Capitalist.



Was Jesus a capitalist?Well, Supply Side Jesus was. I suspect Ron would be more comfortable with Supply Side Jesus than that socialist Jesus of Nazareth.

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quade

***Bottom Line:
HRC is a Progressive/Liberal/Socialist.
DT is a Capitalist.



Was Jesus a capitalist?

No, Jesus Christ was/is the Savior.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

******Bottom Line:
HRC is a Progressive/Liberal/Socialist.
DT is a Capitalist.



Was Jesus a capitalist?

No, Jesus Christ was/is the Savior.

Then why does being a capitalist matter in your choice for the Presidency?
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*********Bottom Line:
HRC is a Progressive/Liberal/Socialist.
DT is a Capitalist.



Was Jesus a capitalist?

No, Jesus Christ was/is the Savior.

Then why does being a capitalist matter in your choice for the Presidency?

I have accepted the Savior, Jesus Christ. Now I am going to vote for the POTUS. The first was spiritual to save my soul. The second is social/political to do what I believe is best for my country.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

************Bottom Line:
HRC is a Progressive/Liberal/Socialist.
DT is a Capitalist.


Was Jesus a capitalist?
No, Jesus Christ was/is the Savior.
Then why does being a capitalist matter in your choice for the Presidency?
I have accepted the Savior, Jesus Christ. Now I am going to vote for the POTUS. The first was spiritual to save my soul. The second is social/political to do what I believe is best for my country.

And you believe Trump is an example of what is best for US despite the fact his lifestyle is nearly 100% against your spiritual beliefs?
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And you believe Trump is an example of what is best for US despite the fact his lifestyle is nearly 100% against your spiritual beliefs?



HRC is 100% against my beliefs. However, I do know how to separate my spiritual from my political.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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HRC is 100% against my beliefs. However, I do know how to separate my spiritual from my political.



Yes you do. And that is the basis of the hypocrisy that is built into your life, through your belief system.
Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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HRC is 100% against my beliefs. However, I do know how to separate my spiritual from my political.



Yes you do. And that is the basis of the hypocrisy that is built into your life, through your belief system.



It is called thinking outside the ego-linear pattern. It involves expanding awareness as opposed to intellectual fact accumulation.

Transcending Levels of Consciousnes by David R Hawkins, MD, PhD.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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HRC is 100% against my beliefs. However, I do know how to separate my spiritual from my political.



Yes you do. And that is the basis of the hypocrisy that is built into your life, through your belief system.



It is called thinking outside the ego-linear pattern. It involves expanding awareness as opposed to intellectual fact accumulation.

Transcending Levels of Consciousnes by David R Hawkins, MD, PhD.


Well, you can believe that. Apparently you work hard at, and are good at believing things that have no basis in fact. And using rationalizations for those beliefs. I'll just use the much simpler term "hypocrisy" because I am a simple man of simple beliefs.

BTW, the language and terms you just used smack of elitism, are you an elitist and well as a Christian?
Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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Seen on Facebook today:

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I don't care if Donald Trump snorts cocaine off Miss America's ass at the Vatican on the alter (sic) during Sunday services. He's got my vote.

I think that about sums it up :S

I can completely understand not liking Hillary Clinton much; she has a lot of baggage. But jeez, saying that Hillary being bad must mean Trump is good is kind of stupid. They're independent variables.

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There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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gowlerk


BTW, the language and terms you just used smack of elitism, are you an elitist and well as a Christian?



I suppose that depends on your point of view. My explanation is that I am in the world but no longer of the world.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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BTW, the language and terms you just used smack of elitism, are you an elitist and well as a Christian?



I suppose that depends on your point of view. My explanation is that I am in the world but no longer of the world.

Then why are you voting?

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I will vote to do what I can to stop HRC. If she gets elected I will know I did my best.

If I don't vote for DT and HRC gets elected than I will fall into the depression of self-recrimination and believe it is my fault and I might become suicidal. I am not willing to take that risk.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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RonD1120

I will vote to do what I can to stop HRC.


Why? She is of the world and you aren't.

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If she gets elected I will know I did my best.


Did your best to change a world you aren't part of?

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If I don't vote for DT and HRC gets elected than I will fall into the depression of self-recrimination and believe it is my fault and I might become suicidal. I am not willing to take that risk.


The world could affect you that badly even though you aren't part of it? Are you sure?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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If I don't vote for DT and HRC gets elected than I will fall into the depression of self-recrimination and believe it is my fault and I might become suicidal. I am not willing to take that risk.



In your professional career, I expect that you could have provided good guidance for someone with obsessive thoughts such as these. Step back, and do the same for yourself.

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I will vote to do what I can to stop HRC. If she gets elected I will know I did my best.

If I don't vote for DT and HRC gets elected than I will fall into the depression of self-recrimination and believe it is my fault and I might become suicidal. I am not willing to take that risk.



So are you voting for Trump, so as to accelerate the last days?

"But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, "

Pretty well describes Trump. Describes a lot of others, too, but him particularly well.

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airdvr

***SC, like skydiving in general is dominated by white males, many with military backgrounds.



Ummm...skydiving in general may fit your description above but to say SC is mostly conservative is wrong unless there is some silent majority of which I'm not aware.

Agreed
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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I can completely understand not liking Hillary Clinton much; she has a lot of baggage. But jeez, saying that Hillary being bad must mean Trump is good is kind of stupid. They're independent variables.



It's pretty amazing when one expresses disdain for one, the knee jerk police automatically accuse you of liking the other.

it's exhausting

Hillary - PLEASENO!
Donald - OHMYGODHELLNO!!!

these are not mutually exclusive sentiments

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It's pretty amazing when one expresses disdain for one, the knee jerk police automatically accuse you of liking the other.

it's exhausting

Hillary - PLEASENO!
Donald - OHMYGODHELLNO!!!

these are not mutually exclusive sentiments



I agree, but what I don't agree with is the idea that because Hillary might be bad Donald would be equally bad so therefore it doesn't matter. There are many gradations of "bad".

Hillary will not be nearly as bad for the country or world as Donald.

- Dan G

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>but to say SC is mostly conservative is wrong . . .

First presidential poll, done a few months ago, was overwhelmingly pro-Trump.

The second poll, done a few days ago (and this was _after_ the Republican party began to dump Trump) is still leaning Trump. So that's the support that Trump is seeing here even after mainstream conservatives are dumping him.

So per polls here, it is mostly conservative.

More recently (as in the past few days) it's been more left wing; I think that's due to the Trump supporters (former and current) who are now somewhat ashamed to post.

[Edited to update latest poll results]

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Trump can't be bought.



I think Russia is betting on the opposite.

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Trump can't be blackmailed for political favors.



True, but Trump has shown throughout his adult life that he only will do what is best for Trump.

Why do you think that he is going to change that now? Secondly, do you really think that what is best for one billionaire is best for the country?

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Trump can't be bought.



I think Russia is betting on the opposite.

***Trump can't be blackmailed for political favors.



True, but Trump has shown throughout his adult life that he only will do what is best for Trump.

Why do you think that he is going to change that now?

Hey, that was when he was only 59. He's 70 now.
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