RonD1120 58 #1 May 29, 2016 Yesterday my wife and I had one of those life changing experiences, again. We were clipped by a semi-truck and flipped in our pickup while travelling south on I-75. When the truck came to a sliding stop we were surrounded by Christian first responders that just happened to be travelling in our area. These included a fireman, who just happened to show up it time with a fire extinguisher to put out our engine fire. We were trapped inside. A young rather thin man climbed through the passenger side back window and pushed out the windshield with the help of two other guys on the outside. He supported my wife who could not release her seat belt and cut it. The first person I met was a Christian RN who began treating my lacerated arm and praying for me. Two other Christian ladies escorted my wife to a chair and began prayer with and for her. An ambulance going in the opposite direction responded immediately and checked us out within ten minutes. So today we are very thankful to be alive. We only have scrapes and bruises. We were protected by the hand of God. BTW, the semi was a hit and run. Another trucker stopped to help and he called the incident in to DOT. They'll be looking for the driver.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #2 May 29, 2016 QuoteWe were protected by the hand of God. But you weren't flipped by the hand of God in the first place? (Glad to hear your wife's OK.)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #3 May 29, 2016 RonD1120We were protected by the hand of God. I too hope all is well with you and yours, but being "protected by the hand of God" is an unsupportable premise from a logical perspective. Surely if he wanted to have protected you, he wouldn't have put you in the situation to begin with.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #4 May 29, 2016 Jeeze Ron, happy to hear you guys are all right. Praise God!Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #5 May 29, 2016 jakee Glad to hear your wife's OK. What about Ron? If you accidentally left him out I suppose it's no big deal - but if it was deliberate, I'd say that's pretty shitty. . .Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 1 #6 May 29, 2016 Ron, I'm glad you and your wife made it through what must have been a harrowing experience. I'm glad the responders got there so quickly. Sounds like it may have gotten tense if not for the prompt attention. I'm also glad the responders were able to give comfort along with their professional skills. Sorry, I can't help but asking if the miscreant truck driver looked like a muslem.Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #7 May 29, 2016 Wow Ron! Glad you guys are OK! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #8 May 29, 2016 quade***We were protected by the hand of God. I too hope all is well with you and yours, but being "protected by the hand of God" is an unsupportable premise from a logical perspective. Surely if he wanted to have protected you, he wouldn't have put you in the situation to begin with. Well, no. That's the thing about the "Hand of God" premise. In this particular case, Ron's truck is probably totalled. He and his wife are "scraped and bruised." But because it could have been a lot worse, and because a whole bunch of people who happened to be Christian (which isn't all that surprising in that area) stopped to help, then "God stepped in." Just like when a couple hundred people die in an earthquake, but one "miraculously" survives, it's a "miracle" and "God saved that person." Apparently, the idea of God preventing the disaster in the first place just doesn't seem to occur to anyone."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #9 May 29, 2016 wolfriverjoe******We were protected by the hand of God. I too hope all is well with you and yours, but being "protected by the hand of God" is an unsupportable premise from a logical perspective. Surely if he wanted to have protected you, he wouldn't have put you in the situation to begin with. Well, no. That's the thing about the "Hand of God" premise. In this particular case, Ron's truck is probably totalled. He and his wife are "scraped and bruised." But because it could have been a lot worse, and because a whole bunch of people who happened to be Christian (which isn't all that surprising in that area) stopped to help, then "God stepped in." Just like when a couple hundred people die in an earthquake, but one "miraculously" survives, it's a "miracle" and "God saved that person." Apparently, the idea of God preventing the disaster in the first place just doesn't seem to occur to anyone. Everyone that des of a disease deserves it! Otherwise plague wouldn't be in the bible -I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #10 May 29, 2016 Everyone's looking for an angle!Anyway Ron's a tough guy, he can take care of himself. Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #11 May 29, 2016 jakee Everyone's looking for an angle!Anyway Ron's a tough guy, he can take care of himself. Thought it the most clever blatant backhanded PA I have seen on here since Amazon left.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #12 May 29, 2016 CoreeeceJeeze Ron, happy to hear you guys are all right. Praise God! Serious question for anybody who's ever said "praise God" when things go as desired: do you say "praise God" when things don't go as desired? If yes, then you appear to be rejoicing at a tragedy. If no, you appear to imply that God is only worthy of praise if his choices please you. I can't see either position as defensible. A god who is only worthy of praise sometimes is not the same god most believers describe. Yet I've never seen any of these believers praise their god as tragedy is unfolding, only beg him to change his mind.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #13 May 30, 2016 The111***Jeeze Ron, happy to hear you guys are all right. Praise God! Serious question for anybody who's ever said "praise God" when things go as desired: do you say "praise God" when things don't go as desired? On impulse, I may get angry and shake my fist - but it isn't very long before I start looking for a silver lining. I would say that the majority of qualities that define who I am have been gained through the challenges of life. Now tho I don't know how my life would've turned out had I not gone through them, I'd like to believe that I'm a better person because of them - them and a loving family that has been there for me through it all - and I can praise Him for that if I want to or not.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #14 May 30, 2016 Means exactly the same thing as allahu akbar. Praising the invisible imaginary things. Glad you kids are ok Ron, sounds like a close one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #15 May 30, 2016 QuoteI would say that the majority of qualities that define who I am have been gained through the challenges of life. Now tho I don't know how my life would've turned out had I not gone through them, I'd like to believe that I'm a better person because of them - them and a loving family that has been there for me through it all - and I can praise Him for that if I want to or not. Do you praise god for that because you think he personally orchestrates the things that happen to you, or just for creating the starting conditions that make living in the world and randomly encountering these challenges possible?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #16 May 30, 2016 The111 Serious question for anybody who's ever said "praise God" when things go as desired: do you say "praise God" when things don't go as desired? No, you say "another chance to learn and grow through adversity, thank you Jesus." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,912 #17 May 30, 2016 I was once in the sleeper of a truck on I-94 in Minnesota. It was a team operation and my partner was driving. For some unknown reason the truck left the road and struck a tree in the ditch. The cab of the truck was torn open at the spot where the driver was sitting, and he died probably instantly. I was largely unharmed in the sleeper but it was a hell of a ride. And I was trapped in it for a few moments wondering if I would die in a fire. Lucky for me God only chose to kill my partner that day, and She allowed me to live at least long enough to read your post. I'm not sure what he did to cause God to call him home like that, I'm sure She must of had Her reasons. The reason She spared me was probably so that I could tell the story of what happened to the driver's two teenage sons the next week. I have not yet had that discussion with his three other children who were too young at the time. I hate seeing accident scenes when I'm traveling. And I sure do appreciate the fine men and women who respond to them. I can not for the life of me image myself asking any of them what their religion is. Or why it could possibly matter what sort of believers God placed at the scene to help me or you. I am wondering about this though, QuoteYesterday my wife and I had one of those life changing experiences, again. In what way is your life different? Nothing in your post indicates any change in your beliefs or behavior. You sound like the same old Ron to me.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #18 May 30, 2016 jakee Everyone's looking for an angle!Anyway Ron's a tough guy, he can take care of himself. Well he has a tough skin anyway. I'm sure the trucker will get appropriate punishment. Surely two consecutive terms in hell! Glad you're both OK. I'm sure you'll let everyone know how both of your lives have now "changed". For me similar events have led to new appreciations of the trip called life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #19 May 30, 2016 gowlerk In what way is your life different? He gets to drive a banged-up vehicle, Jesus be praised.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #20 May 30, 2016 Sure went out of his way to protect his own! Maybe he wants more than 10%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 126 #22 May 31, 2016 I managed to drive 30 miles this morning with a slight hangover, tired and groggy, and did it with no intervention from any gods whatsoever.... all mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #23 May 31, 2016 tkhayesI managed to drive 30 miles this morning with a slight hangover, tired and groggy, and did it with no intervention from any gods whatsoever.... all mine. Have some pasta. You'll feel better.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #24 May 31, 2016 kallend***I managed to drive 30 miles this morning with a slight hangover, tired and groggy, and did it with no intervention from any gods whatsoever.... all mine. Have some pasta. You'll feel better. carbs might make him poopy - I'm a fan of zoodles now zoodles are absolutely better, it's science. No doubt - I don't even know why people would question it - it's proof. Those that don't prefer zoodles are fooling themselves and buying into centuries of Chinese and Italian food oppression. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #25 May 31, 2016 rehmwa******I managed to drive 30 miles this morning with a slight hangover, tired and groggy, and did it with no intervention from any gods whatsoever.... all mine. Have some pasta. You'll feel better. carbs might make him poopy - I'm a fan of zoodles now zoodles are absolutely better, it's science. No doubt - I don't even know why people would question it - it's proof. Those that don't prefer zoodles are fooling themselves and buying into centuries of Chinese and Italian food oppression. The FSM doesn't approve.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
