kallend 1,822 #1 March 28, 2016 Bust, baby, bust. www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/25/the-big-bust-in-the-oil-fields/?wpisrc=nl_draw2... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 March 28, 2016 And all they did was screw up the environment for thousands of square miles for centuries to come. Totally worth it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #3 March 28, 2016 I have such a strange stance on oil and gas. Well, not really, it makes sense. My degree is in environmental science, but I've worked as an accountant for an oil and gas company in Denver the last 3 years. I love paying super low prices at the pump, but man I wish we were still at ~$90 a bbls. Now it seems crazy to ask for anything over $40. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 419 #4 March 28, 2016 So much for "peak oil" LMAO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #5 March 28, 2016 brenthutchSo much for "peak oil" LMAO! No shit. We've had so many wells that are part of a proven pad just shut in because prices are such shit. Some of them were around ~25K bbls a month and the companies said fuck it and shut them in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 March 28, 2016 brenthutchSo much for "peak oil" LMAO! Are you saying oil is an inexhaustible item on this planet? Or simply scoffing that, yeah it exists, it's just way too f'in' expensive (currently) in some forms to be profitable?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,549 #7 March 28, 2016 JohnnyMarko***So much for "peak oil" LMAO! No shit. We've had so many wells that are part of a proven pad just shut in because prices are such shit. Some of them were around ~25K bbls a month and the companies said fuck it and shut them in. Was the ban on petroleum exports ever lifted, or is it still in force?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #8 March 28, 2016 ryoder******So much for "peak oil" LMAO! No shit. We've had so many wells that are part of a proven pad just shut in because prices are such shit. Some of them were around ~25K bbls a month and the companies said fuck it and shut them in. Was the ban on petroleum exports ever lifted, or is it still in force? Great question. I work for a non-op (we just haves leases in the Bakken) so once our products leave the refinery, I have no idea what happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 419 #9 March 28, 2016 quade***So much for "peak oil" LMAO! Are you saying oil is an inexhaustible item on this planet? Or simply scoffing that, yeah it exists, it's just way too f'in' expensive (currently) in some forms to be profitable? Yes, the world's supply of oil is practically inexhaustible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #10 March 28, 2016 quade And all they did was screw up the environment for thousands of square miles for centuries to come. Totally worth it. You are a great comedian "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #11 March 28, 2016 brenthutchSo much for "peak oil" LMAO! And of course the now famous........ "we will never see $2 gas again""America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #12 March 28, 2016 ryoder******So much for "peak oil" LMAO! No shit. We've had so many wells that are part of a proven pad just shut in because prices are such shit. Some of them were around ~25K bbls a month and the companies said fuck it and shut them in. Was the ban on petroleum exports ever lifted, or is it still in force? Lifted I believe"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 March 28, 2016 ryoderWas the ban on petroleum exports ever lifted, or is it still in force? did you say 'ban on petroleum experts'? one can hope ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 March 28, 2016 brenthutch******So much for "peak oil" LMAO! Are you saying oil is an inexhaustible item on this planet? Or simply scoffing that, yeah it exists, it's just way too f'in' expensive (currently) in some forms to be profitable? Yes, the world's supply of oil is practically inexhaustible. Emphasis mine. I notice you added a qualifier to the statement. That turns the statement from a statement of objective and absolute fact into a statement of highly subjective opinion.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 419 #15 March 28, 2016 quade*********So much for "peak oil" LMAO! Are you saying oil is an inexhaustible item on this planet? Or simply scoffing that, yeah it exists, it's just way too f'in' expensive (currently) in some forms to be profitable? Yes, the world's supply of oil is practically inexhaustible. Emphasis mine. I notice you added a qualifier to the statement. That turns the statement from a statement of objective and absolute fact into a statement of highly subjective opinion. In the same way the energy from the sun is practically inexhaustible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,098 #16 March 28, 2016 quade*********So much for "peak oil" LMAO! Are you saying oil is an inexhaustible item on this planet? Or simply scoffing that, yeah it exists, it's just way too f'in' expensive (currently) in some forms to be profitable? Yes, the world's supply of oil is practically inexhaustible. Emphasis mine. I notice you added a qualifier to the statement. That turns the statement from a statement of objective and absolute fact into a statement of highly subjective opinion. That is a "weasel" word. A very well known technique in the marketing world.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #17 March 28, 2016 QuoteIn the same way the energy from the sun is practically inexhaustible. In every way! Except, of course, orders and orders of magnitude. Humans could set a goal today of burning every drop of oil that can possibly be squeezed out of the earth and at some time within a century or two they would realize that goal. It would take an estimated 5 billion years to even come close to exhausting the Sun.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #18 March 28, 2016 quade***Yes, the world's supply of oil is practically inexhaustible. Emphasis mine. I notice you added a qualifier to the statement. That turns the statement from a statement of objective and absolute fact into a statement of highly subjective opinion. Practically = within our lifetime. Aka fuck the future. Thinking anything is too big to fail (i.e. be exhausted) has never been a good bet. Everything is finite in this universe. The game is resource allocation.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #19 March 28, 2016 quadeQuoteIn the same way the energy from the sun is practically inexhaustible. In every way! Except, of course, orders and orders of magnitude. Humans could set a goal today of burning every drop of oil that can possibly be squeezed out of the earth and at some time within a century or two they would realize that goal. It would take an estimated 5 billion years to even come close to exhausting the Sun. It's more fundamental than magnitude, which you illustrated perfectly with your post. We don't consume "sun reserves" by harnessing its energy. The same cannot be said about oil. It's almost like the phrase "renewable energy" actually means something.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,732 #20 March 28, 2016 >In the same way the energy from the sun is practically inexhaustible. That would be literally inexhaustible by humans. We do not "use up" the sun by harvesting power from it - nor will we be here as a race by the time it ceases to be available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,264 #21 March 28, 2016 Hi Bill, Quotenor will we be here as a species by the time it ceases to be available. I hope that you do mind my slight editing of your post. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,732 #22 March 28, 2016 >I hope that you do mind my slight editing of your post. You may be right. By that time we may be extinct as a species. But I think there's a good chance that by that time only the part left on Earth (Homo Sapiens Terra?) will be gone. Of course the rest of what would then be humanity might be a different species as well by that point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 419 #23 March 28, 2016 quadeQuoteIn the same way the energy from the sun is practically inexhaustible. In every way! Except, of course, orders and orders of magnitude. Humans could set a goal today of burning every drop of oil that can possibly be squeezed out of the earth and at some time within a century or two they would realize that goal. And by that time we will smoothly and seamlessly transition to other, more economically feasible energy sources. No need for bunched panties and clutched pearls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,732 #24 March 28, 2016 >And by that time we will smoothly and seamlessly transition to other, more >economically feasible energy sources. Which, fortunately, we are doing now. It won't be as smooth or seamless as any other major transition, but it will happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 419 #25 March 28, 2016 billvon>And by that time we will smoothly and seamlessly transition to other, more >economically feasible energy sources. Which, fortunately, we are doing now. It won't be as smooth or seamless as any other major transition, but it will happen. Not really. The development of alternative energy sources is currently being driven by ideology not by economics, thus the need for subsidies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
