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headoverheels

*** yes, I believe so. But also remember the first comment she made was she was pulled down. I didn't see that did you?



Please provide some reference for that -- I don't remember it. Thank you.

Don't hold your breath. I'm still waiting for him to tell me what Obama really said about knives & guns.

Not to post some videos that he didn't watch.
What was really said.
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jakee

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I only stated an opinion that I do not see an assault.



Well that's ok, because he hasn't been charged with assault.

Here's a question though - can you see Corey Lewandowski grabbing her arm and pulling her, exactly as she said he did and exactly as he said he didn't?

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bitch at this guy too

Piers Morgan: Male Reporter Would Be ‘Laughing Stock’ if He Said Lewandowski Assaulted Him


Bitch at Piers Morgan? You don't have to ask me twice. Hell, you don't have to ask me once! That anyone pays that pathetic excuse for a man to speak - even in an ironic 'you won't believe what he says next' way - is one of the truest signs of the impending apocalypse. He's a half melted waxwork facsimile of a real human person plugged into an autophrase generator which randomly selects from the three settings of smugly patronising, offensive sociopathy and self-serving faux patriotism. To say the man is an arse would be an insult to prolapsed anuses.


Really? I wonder if he posts here under a pseudonym.:)
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jakee

I can think of a few. Anyway, if you accept the definition of assault that you provided, would you say Lewandowski assaulted her?



Assault is saying "I'm going to punch you in the nose" and shaking your fist.

Battery is punching in the nose.

You can have assault without battery and vice versa (e.g., a sucker punch).

If someone is responsible for security for a public official, and a citizen puts their hands on said public official, pulling the citizen away can be deemed justifiable. It's the old 'first blood' thing (in a bloodless kind of way).

Generally, the rule of thumb is that if someone assaults and is within range to cause damage (arm's reach for a fist, effective range for a firearm, etc.), battery in response is justified. You don't have to let them throw the first punch or fire the first shot.

The most effective approach is, of course, to stay out of range in the first place.


BSBD,

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***I can think of a few. Anyway, if you accept the definition of assault that you provided, would you say Lewandowski assaulted her?



Assault is saying "I'm going to punch you in the nose" and shaking your fist.

Battery is punching in the nose.

You can have assault without battery and vice versa (e.g., a sucker punch).

If someone is responsible for security for a public official, and a citizen puts their hands on said public official, pulling the citizen away can be deemed justifiable. It's the old 'first blood' thing (in a bloodless kind of way).

Generally, the rule of thumb is that if someone assaults and is within range to cause damage (arm's reach for a fist, effective range for a firearm, etc.), battery in response is justified. You don't have to let them throw the first punch or fire the first shot.

The most effective approach is, of course, to stay out of range in the first place.


BSBD,

Winsor

Of course that whole point is moot if that person (Trump in this case) voluntarily walks into the group.

Secondly the campaign manager is not personally responsible for the security of Trump. The secret service detail is.

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SkyDekker

******I can think of a few. Anyway, if you accept the definition of assault that you provided, would you say Lewandowski assaulted her?



Assault is saying "I'm going to punch you in the nose" and shaking your fist.

Battery is punching in the nose.

You can have assault without battery and vice versa (e.g., a sucker punch).

If someone is responsible for security for a public official, and a citizen puts their hands on said public official, pulling the citizen away can be deemed justifiable. It's the old 'first blood' thing (in a bloodless kind of way).

Generally, the rule of thumb is that if someone assaults and is within range to cause damage (arm's reach for a fist, effective range for a firearm, etc.), battery in response is justified. You don't have to let them throw the first punch or fire the first shot.

The most effective approach is, of course, to stay out of range in the first place.


BSBD,

Winsor

Of course that whole point is moot if that person (Trump in this case) voluntarily walks into the group.

Secondly the campaign manager is not personally responsible for the security of Trump. The secret service detail is.

It's a team thing - (Canadians prolly don't understand that concept) :)
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SkyDekker



Of course that whole point is moot if that person (Trump in this case) voluntarily walks into the group.

Secondly the campaign manager is not personally responsible for the security of Trump. The secret service detail is.



Look, there's nothing new here.

When there is nothing but Assholes involved, what do you expect?

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turtlespeed

*********Like I said, you don't understand the meaning of the word.
Thanks for confirming it though.



I understand the word and the issue.

I only stated an opinion that I do not see an assault.



Assault <> battery. The charge is "battery". With every post you make it becomes clearer that you simply don't understand.

I suppose that depends on where you are at the time.


So you don't understand either. Got it.
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jakee

He's a half melted waxwork facsimile of a real human person plugged into an autophrase generator which randomly selects from the three settings of smugly patronising, offensive sociopathy and self-serving faux patriotism. To say the man is an arse would be an insult to prolapsed anuses.



That's great work there. I'll be copying that for multiple uses.

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It's a team thing - (Canadians prolly don't understand that concept)



Correct, it is a team thing. And as a Canadian I understand not everybody should be, or wants to be on the same team. Maybe when the US figures out that concept they will stop murdering people around the world in their misguided effort to make everybody be on their team.

Or at least stop battering female journalists of their own mouthpiece.

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SkyDekker

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It's a team thing - (Canadians prolly don't understand that concept)



Correct, it is a team thing. And as a Canadian I understand not everybody should be, or wants to be on the same team. Maybe when the US figures out that concept they will stop murdering people around the world in their misguided effort to make everybody be on their team.

Or at least stop battering female journalists of their own mouthpiece.



Nice straw man - Evan has a toupe'.

It was about the team trump has - not the US foreign policy. . . . But you knew that.
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turtlespeed

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It's a team thing - (Canadians prolly don't understand that concept)



Correct, it is a team thing. And as a Canadian I understand not everybody should be, or wants to be on the same team. Maybe when the US figures out that concept they will stop murdering people around the world in their misguided effort to make everybody be on their team.

Or at least stop battering female journalists of their own mouthpiece.



Nice straw man - Evan has a toupe'.

It was about the team trump has - not the US foreign policy. . . . But you knew that.

Right and the Campaign Manager plays no active role in the team charged with the physical security of Trump. But you knew that.

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jakee

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Evan has a toupe'.



Who's Evan?

BTW, have you figured out yet if Lewandowski assaulted Fields under the definition you provided?



Asked and answered.

Yes, I have.
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turtlespeed

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Evan has a toupe'.



Who's Evan?

BTW, have you figured out yet if Lewandowski assaulted Fields under the definition you provided?



Asked and answered.

Yes, I have.

So, did he?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

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Evan has a toupe'.



Who's Evan?

BTW, have you figured out yet if Lewandowski assaulted Fields under the definition you provided?



Asked and answered.

Yes, I have.

So, did he?

Again - do you not know?
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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jakee

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Again - do you not know?



No, I don't know what your answer is. That's why I'm asking you.

Did he?

Of course he did.
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"Those kind of women"

Not sure what you mean. There was one woman in the video who was articulate and attractive. Do you mean women who express an opinion, women who express an opinion different to yours or some other option?

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CornishChris

"Those kind of women"

Not sure what you mean. There was one woman in the video who was articulate and attractive. Do you mean women who express an opinion, women who express an opinion different to yours or some other option?



Well, she is obviously a liberal feminist or she wouldn't be so adamant against Trump. She apparently believes that men would make a voting choice solely on the option of having sex with her. She believes she can use her vagina to get want she wants. That kind of a woman is easy. There is no relationship value to her use of sex. In other words, she is a slut.

My tribe has higher standards for their women and themselves.
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For once, i do not completly dissagree with Ron... which feels wierd.

This type of thing is the act of a 14 year old girl and only brings the debate climate in the US election to a lower level.

Use real arguments when discussing serious stuff, not things like this.
I dont really care to much about it, people can do what ever, but when doing something like this, you're about as much of an idiot as Trump.

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