2015 sets new record for warming

[SkyDekker 1,288]

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And the satellite data also does not support the claim he made

So what you are saying is that the data he is using is wrong, while being all indignant that he claimed you said his data was wrong.

You are really helping to support your accusation of Bill being a liar. Keep up the good work!

[rushmc 18]

SkyDekker

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And the satellite data also does not support the claim he made

So what you are saying is that the data he is using is wrong, while being all indignant that he claimed you said his data was wrong.

You are really helping to support your accusation of Bill being a liar. Keep up the good work!

yet another fail

Show me where I said anywhere in this thread where i said what you are imagining

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,288]

Hey Shaggy, it even says "Quote:".

[rushmc 18]

SkyDekker

Hey Shaggy, it even says "Quote:".

you are a great example of Hillary supporter. Lies be damned

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,724]

>And the satellite data also does not support the claim he made

So you are saying the satellite data showing high altitude temperatures do not show the same warming, and that runs counter to the idea that the planet is warming?

[billvon 2,724]

>you are a great example of Hillary supporter

(Rush, sweating and worried, tries valiantly to change the subject)

[SkyDekker 1,288]

rushmc

***Hey Shaggy, it even says "Quote:".

you are a great example of Hillary supporter. Lies be damned

Typical Trump supporter....empty.

[rushmc 18]

billvon

>you are a great example of Hillary supporter

(Rush, sweating and worried, tries valiantly to change the subject)

After it was changed already??

Ya right

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

SkyDekker

******Hey Shaggy, it even says "Quote:".

you are a great example of Hillary supporter. Lies be damned

Typical Trump supporter....empty.

Opps. Another fibber exposed

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

Bias to counter your bias....


http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/01/21/thorough-not-thoroughly-fabricated-the-truth-about-global-temperature-data-well-not-thoroughly-fabricated/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,724]

From the article:

"I think I can see why the so-called consensus has become so obsessed recently with destroying the credibility of the satellite data."

So you are saying the satellite data showing high altitude temperatures do not show the same warming, and that runs counter to the idea that the planet is warming?

[cvfd1399 0]

Who here said the planet IS NOT WARMING AT ALL? Rushmc do you agree that factually it is warming? Or you just have issue like myself with the cause of it all, and some saying it's all man made, and some saying its natural, or a mixture of both?

[billvon 2,724]

>But, given the ‘pause.’

"During 2015, the average temperature across global land and ocean surfaces was 1.62°F (0.90°C) above the 20th century average."

So much for the "pause."

[billvon 2,724]

>Who here said the planet IS NOT WARMING AT ALL?

The article RushMC posted.

"Without the adjustments and homogenization, the post-1960 US temperatures would be indistinguishable from the early 20th century."

[cvfd1399 0]

Did he say that?. I did not ask if an article he link suggested it was so small of a change it would be indistinguishable. I want to know if he thinks, and you think he believes it is NOT warming.

To make myself clear I need an answer from both of you.

[rushmc 18]

cvfd1399

Who here said the planet IS NOT WARMING AT ALL? Rushmc do you agree that factually it is warming? Or you just have issue like myself with the cause of it all, and some saying it's all man made, and some saying its natural, or a mixture of both?

The planet warms and cools in natural cycles
When those like Bill talk about warming it is for one reason

That reason? Man behaving badly

As to your question
According to sat data, the planet has not statistically warmed in 18 years 9 months

Maybe it is and maybe it is not

With that kind of question to deal with, mans actions should not even be in the discussion at this point

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[cvfd1399 0]

Ok I think it is pretty obvious it's warming, but I disagree to who the percentage of blame is to be shared. My unofficial gut feeling is its 25%man 75% natural, but I don't deny warming.

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rushmc

I did not make a claim one way or the other
I did questioned him about the other data sets

I did not say what he quoted me as saying.

You said, "Yep. The newest instruments we have are not to be believed. "

That is a claim, not a question, and "the data are wrong" is a reasonable paraphrase of it. You could theoretically take him to task for the grammatical error of using quotation marks on a paraphrase, but it certainly doesn't rise to the level of "liar." To justify that pejorative, he'd have to have said something dishonest, maybe like stating that a claim was really just a question.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[SkyDekker 1,288]

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Rushmc do you agree that factually it is warming?

Rush has both stated that he believes the planet is warming, but isn't influenced by mankind at all and the planet isn't warming at all.

Generally depends on which headline to an article he hasn't read or understood he is quoting.

[cvfd1399 0]

Well first you gotta be consistent with what you believe if you want to debate something.

[brenthutch 419]

Satellite instruments- not hottest
Balloon instruments - not hottest
Ground instruments-not hottest
Adjusted ground instruments- hottest
I'm just sayin

[winsor 220]

brenthutch

Satellite instruments- not hottest
Balloon instruments - not hottest
Ground instruments-not hottest
Adjusted ground instruments- hottest
I'm just sayin

Denier! Denier! Burn him!

[rehmwa 2]

winsor

Denier! Denier! Burn him!

yes - make him stand outside in the sunlight

...
Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[winsor 220]

rehmwa

***Denier! Denier! Burn him!

yes - make him stand outside in the sunlight

Should he repent, his death will be swift and relatively painless. A firing squad with bullets cast from a silver crucifix would do nicely.

Otherwise, only burning at the stake will cleanse the evil of denial.

[rushmc 18]

brenthutch

Satellite instruments- not hottest
Balloon instruments - not hottest
Ground instruments-not hottest
Adjusted ground instruments- hottest
I'm just sayin

As I implied above
You gotta cherry pick the correct one to make the 2016 claim!
the newest and best data instruments be damned

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln