Republicans are stupid

[RonD1120 58]

quade

******interesting

I would have thought you were a birther.

Only in regards to BHO.

Which means it really has nothing to do with whether or not the individual is a "natural born citizen," but rather something else.

Good job.

Define "natural born citizen."

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[quade 3]

RonD1120

*********interesting

I would have thought you were a birther.

Only in regards to BHO.

Which means it really has nothing to do with whether or not the individual is a "natural born citizen," but rather something else.

Good job.

Define "natural born citizen."

Dude. YOU are the one with the problem. YOU define it.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[RonD1120 58]

quade

************interesting

I would have thought you were a birther.

Only in regards to BHO.

Which means it really has nothing to do with whether or not the individual is a "natural born citizen," but rather something else.

Good job.

Define "natural born citizen."

Dude. YOU are the one with the problem. YOU define it.

Dude, you haven't been keeping up with the news. The term is not defined constitutionally.

For the record, Cruz's birth certificate has never been in question. BHO had to manufacture a replica following public pressure.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[quade 3]

RonD1120

Dude, you haven't been keeping up with the news.

I love it when people presume things about other people.

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The term is not defined constitutionally.

No shit? Really? After 8ish years talking about the subject off and on here there was no way I could have known that. Thanks for the civics lesson, Professor.

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For the record, Cruz's birth certificate has never been in question. BHO had to manufacture a replica following public pressure.

Nonsense.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[headoverheels 291]

RonD1120

Dude, you haven't been keeping up with the news. The term is not defined constitutionally.

IMHO, after listening to much commentary, Cruz doesn't qualify as a natural born citizen. If he is still a contender half way through primary season, I expect there to be a legal challenge, so we will all find out. Probably coming from the governor of some state that doesn't want to let him on the ballot. He'd better get (and pass) that challenge before the Presidential election gets going, just as Clinton needs to get past any true legal issues (not just sleaze) before then, if she becomes the nominee.

[gowlerk 1,910]

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For the record, Cruz's birth certificate has never been in question. BHO had to manufacture a replica following public pressure.

Ted Cruz was born in Canada. His mother is an American citizen, which means he was also an American citizen at birth. Even though he was not born in America. He is a natural born American, according most theories of the legal definition. Although this has never been tested before the Supreme Court.

Obama, even if you do not believe he was born in the USA, also clearly was born to an American mother. A good old gal from Kansas. How can you possible think Ted Cruz is eligible to be president, but not BHO? Really, do you think his mother lied about being his mother?

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[RonD1120 58]

quade

***Dude, you haven't been keeping up with the news.

I love it when people presume things about other people.

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The term is not defined constitutionally.

No shit? Really? After 8ish years talking about the subject off and on here there was no way I could have known that. Thanks for the civics lesson, Professor.

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For the record, Cruz's birth certificate has never been in question. BHO had to manufacture a replica following public pressure.

Nonsense.

Presume!!?

I was minding my own business when you starting acting like you needed a scapegoat.

You must be having a bad. SAT, I hope it gets better for you.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[JerryBaumchen 1,048]

Hi Ken,

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Although this has never been tested before the Supreme Court.

If Cruz goes very far this will be the defining moment.

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Really, do you think his mother lied about being his mother?

It does seem as though he will think anything that can or could discredit Pres. Obama.

Jerry Baumchen

[headoverheels 291]

gowlerk

Obama, even if you do not believe he was born in the USA, also clearly was born to an American mother. A good old gal from Kansas. How can you possible think Ted Cruz is eligible to be president, but not BHO? Really, do you think his mother lied about being his mother?

The requirements go beyond that. Something to do with her age at the time of birth (under 18 IIRC), and not having been continuously in the US for 5(?) years previously (required because she was a minor?). That info is likely a bit off, but close enough that you can find the info with a search.

[gowlerk 1,910]

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If Cruz goes very far this will be the defining moment.

Maybe, but John McCain was not born in the US either. No court ruled on that. Federal courts may just choose not to hear the case if it comes up. But I guess that would be a ruling as well.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[gowlerk 1,910]

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The requirements go beyond that. Something to do with her age at the time of birth (under 18 IIRC), and not having been continuously in the US for 5(?) years previously (required because she was a minor?). That info is likely a bit off, but close enough that you can find the info with a search.

So I did. She was 18 when her son Barack was born Aug. 4 1961. In Hawaii, where her parents moved her to in 1960, shortly after she had graduated High School in Seattle. Where she lived from the age of 13.

Birthers don't care about the truth one whit.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[SkyDekker 1,121]

Isn't it interesting how Ron is silent on any of these posts. I think Quade hot the nail right on the head. The objection had nothing to do with the birth certificate.

[winsor 186]

SkyDekker

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Tough choice, which one terrifies me more.......

We may all now stuck with looking at our choices and trying to figure out which one will be throttled back by the other two branches most effectively.

Amazing how the best country in the world, with the best governing system in the world, with the best people in the world has these options for president.

What can I say, the scum rises to the top.

[winsor 186]

RonD1120

*********interesting

I would have thought you were a birther.

Only in regards to BHO.

Which means it really has nothing to do with whether or not the individual is a "natural born citizen," but rather something else.

Good job.

Define "natural born citizen."

No Caesarians.

[winsor 186]

SkyDekker

Isn't it interesting how Ron is silent on any of these posts. I think Quade hot the nail right on the head. The objection had nothing to do with the birth certificate.

I think it is obvious that the elder Obama took his teenage bride to Kenya when she was ready to deliver so that both of his wives could share the experience.

If those racist bastards at Harvard hadn't kicked him out for bigamy, he would have brought his Kenyan wife over to have children in Hawaii.

I'm sure that Obama's mom insisted in flying halfway around the world while heavily pregnant, since the health care system in Kenya was so much better than that in the U.S. at the time.

Also, since negroes cannot be racist, I'm sure the whole Obama clan was pleased as punch to bring a corn fed cutie into the fold. Not at all like 'Guess Who's Coming to Dinner,' I'm sure.

[wmw999 2,121]

There has already been a lawsuit filed, in Texas. A non-generally-political guy filed it, simply to get the issue settled early enough for it to actually enter into the electoral process. Personally, I think he's done us a favor.

The thoughts in 2000 when McCain was running, was that since he was born in the Canal Zone, which was considered US territory, it probably wasn't a constitutional issue.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Coreeece 2]

gowlerk

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Amazing how the best country in the world, with the best governing system in the world, with the best people in the world has these options for president.

Can I vote this reply as the best sarcasm of the year. Love it.

America actually has at least one great option. Hilary Clinton is very well qualified, extremely capable, and is going to be a fine president. All is not lost.

Even better, I vote this one for best sarcasm of the year!

I think he's actually serious.

I am serious.

Sorry, apparently I spoke too soon when I referred to you in the other thread as a reasonable and thoughtful individual.

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

[CornishChris 5]

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BHO had to manufacture a replica following public pressure.

If you really believe this then you are perpetuating the thread title quite effectively. How many times does something have to be disproved before you will believe it?

CJP

Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people

[RonD1120 58]

SkyDekker

Isn't it interesting how Ron is silent on any of these posts. I think Quade hot the nail right on the head. The objection had nothing to do with the birth certificate.

I was silent on the issue until normiss introduced it. I entered the thread with my opinion on Trump's popularity.

BHO is a closed issued. George Soros made him and used him to hose America. Nothing can be done about that now. We have to hope we can reverse his influence on the next go round.

I don't necessarily think Trump is the answer because Cruz is more reasonable and politically knowledgeable. However, I like the way that Trump rattles the progressive liberals including the media.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[SkyDekker 1,121]

RonD1120

***Isn't it interesting how Ron is silent on any of these posts. I think Quade hot the nail right on the head. The objection had nothing to do with the birth certificate.

I was silent on the issue until normiss introduced it. I entered the thread with my opinion on Trump's popularity.

BHO is a closed issued. George Soros made him and used him to hose America. Nothing can be done about that now. We have to hope we can reverse his influence on the next go round.

I don't necessarily think Trump is the answer because Cruz is more reasonable and politically knowledgeable. However, I like the way that Trump rattles the progressive liberals including the media.

I agree, making statements that force your closest ally to debate in parliament whether he should be allowed into their country is amazing statesmanship. Prime presidential material for the greatest country in the world with the best governing system in the world.

[normiss 622]

We really don't need a world leader spouting off that a woman he disagrees with is a "bimbo".
He's an embarrassment now, I cannot imagine a world with him as president.

The repeated insults that the current president is ruining the country is simple fabrication, the facts clearly do not support that view. Whether you like him or not, he's done a pretty good job for the most part.

[SkyDekker 1,121]

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We really don't need a world leader spouting off that a woman he disagrees with is a "bimbo".

In many parts of the rest of the world he is seen as a typical American. His large support by those who describe themselves as real Americans doesn't help with that.

Your country isn't doing itself any favours on the international stage. I know the general attitude to that is "fuck em", however we live in a truly global environment.

[aphid 0]

SkyDekker

Your country isn't doing itself any favours on the international stage.

Undoubtedly there are many Americans who are conflicted about who to support in this current narcissistic cycle.

As a true and compassionate friend of the United States, here is a genuine and heartfelt offer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCyzdD0vYOw

Call us. We could do lunch.

[gowlerk 1,910]

aphid

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Your country isn't doing itself any favours on the international stage.

Undoubtedly there are many Americans who are conflicted about who to support in this current narcissistic cycle.

As a true and compassionate friend of the United States, here is a genuine and heartfelt offer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCyzdD0vYOw

Call us. We could do lunch.


Yes, I'm willing to do my share as well. I haven't done the math, but a few minutes, maybe seconds of effort should be enough. I rarely get to DC though. Can I do my part from Eloy or DeLand?

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[ryoder 1,382]

aphid

***

Your country isn't doing itself any favours on the international stage.

Undoubtedly there are many Americans who are conflicted about who to support in this current narcissistic cycle.

As a true and compassionate friend of the United States, here is a genuine and heartfelt offer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCyzdD0vYOw

Call us. We could do lunch.

"...we're grateful America has been carrying Canada on it's back for years..."
ROTFLMAO!

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.