brenthutch 423 #1 January 14, 2016 Two progressive stalwarts, The Nation (magazine) and MoveOn.org endorse Bernie, as the FBI widens its investigation of Clinton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #2 January 14, 2016 Ooh god this place is now reddit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #3 January 14, 2016 My ideal election? Bernie vs Ron Paul 1 - agree with either of them or not, at least we know they are sincere and not just political tools with PR strategies designed to try and get 51% of whatever idiots vote based on memes and bumper stickers (or pure momentum and laziness) 2 - election would definitely tell us what social/political philosophy the voting public desires 3 - we'd get exactly what we deserve Pretty much all 3 points are exactly the opposite of what we are setting up for in November. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,583 #4 January 14, 2016 rehmwa My ideal election? Bernie vs Ron Paul Hey, someone else agrees with me!!!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 423 #5 January 14, 2016 You could add Cruz to that list. A classic left vs right match up. If Trump gets the nomination I will vote for Bernie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #6 January 14, 2016 it's the best we could hope for out of who is currently running. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #7 January 14, 2016 cvfd1399it's the best we could hope for out of who is currently running. Ron isn't running, his son is. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #8 January 14, 2016 He seems too out of touch with reality at his old age. He'll sanders might die of old age in his first term too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 736 #9 January 14, 2016 Details, details. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kawisixer01 0 #10 January 15, 2016 Which is why he will have to think long and hard about who he chooses for his running mate, as they will be under just as much consideration. McCain had a chance until he picked Palin. She tanked his campaign faster than the Titanic going down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 227 #11 January 15, 2016 kawisixer01Which is why he will have to think long and hard about who he chooses for his running mate, as they will be under just as much consideration. McCain had a chance until he picked Palin. She tanked his campaign faster than the Titanic going down. I think he should pick a woman. She definitely has to have Progressive credentials of long standing. Jane Fonda seems like a good choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #12 January 15, 2016 cvfd1399sanders might die of old age in his first term too. The best president we've ever had was William Henry Harrison, who had the good grace to fuck off and die before he screwed anything up. More should follow his example.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,337 #13 January 15, 2016 But he was succeeded by John Tyler; considered to be one of the less ept presidents. That whole damn succession thing Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #14 January 15, 2016 wmw999 But he was succeeded by John Tyler; considered to be one of the less ept presidents. That whole damn succession thing Wendy P. Tyler should have followed his lead.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #15 January 15, 2016 grue ***But he was succeeded by John Tyler; considered to be one of the less ept presidents. That whole damn succession thing Wendy P. Tyler should have followed his lead. Does anyone know why Biden isn't running? I think I'd even prefer him to Hillary.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,337 #16 January 15, 2016 His son died, and he said that frankly his heart wasn't in it. Sounds like an excellent, honorable, reason. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #17 January 15, 2016 wmw999 His son died, and he said that frankly his heart wasn't in it. Sounds like an excellent, honorable, reason. Wendy P. I'm not claiming otherwise. As I said, I'd likely prefer him to Hillary.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 299 #18 January 15, 2016 turtlespeed Does anyone know why Biden isn't running? I think I'd even prefer him to Hillary. You can still vote for him if you want. Everyone forgets about the write-in option.See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 736 #19 January 15, 2016 Maybe because the electoral college doesn't use it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #20 January 15, 2016 Biden is still dealing with the lose of his son last year and said that since the position of President needed 100% focus he did not want to run unless he was in the right place to do it. He was also pretty late to game in terms of financing and Hillary seemed to have a war chest that was going to be too large to fight against. Option being tossed out on some of the more left wing sites is that if Hillary loses Iowa and Hew Hampshire then you might see a few new names (Elizabeth Warren, etc) get tossed out there but its too late to file in a lot of states.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,233 #21 January 16, 2016 brenthutch If Trump gets the nomination I will vote for Bernie. Very cosmopolitan. ~ Doc HollidayNobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #22 January 16, 2016 BIGUN*** If Trump gets the nomination I will vote for Bernie. Very cosmopolitan. ~ Doc Holliday Frederic fucking Chopin. ~ Doc HollidayI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #23 January 17, 2016 PhreeZoneBiden is still dealing with the lose of his son last year and said that since the position of President needed 100% focus he did not want to run unless he was in the right place to do it. He was also pretty late to game in terms of financing and Hillary seemed to have a war chest that was going to be too large to fight against. Option being tossed out on some of the more left wing sites is that if Hillary loses Iowa and Hew Hampshire then you might see a few new names (Elizabeth Warren, etc) get tossed out there but its too late to file in a lot of states. The why did he stay a current Vice President? At a moments notice he could be the actual president if obama was killed.... How would he have been able to handle it then? That's like a trans Atlantic co-pilot showing up unfit for work and saying aww fuck it the pilot is the one that's gonna a handle everything, I won't be needed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,311 #24 January 17, 2016 Hi cvfd, QuoteThat's like a trans Atlantic co-pilot showing up unfit for work Not in the slightest. It would be like the co-pilot getting stomach problems an hour after takeoff. I am starting to wonder if these concepts are things you are capable of or not capable of understanding. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #25 January 17, 2016 JerryBaumchenHi cvfd, QuoteThat's like a trans Atlantic co-pilot showing up unfit for work Not in the slightest. It would be like the co-pilot getting stomach problems an hour after takeoff. I am starting to wonder if these concepts are things you are capable of or not capable of understanding. Jerry Baumchen Incorrect a stomach bug is a unknown occurrence that popped up without knowledge. Biden knowing ahead of time he can't handle the pressure of being a president while dealing with family issues is a PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AND ONGOING ISSUE! You can take your condescending comments and keep them to yourself...you are the one who doesn't get it. SMH! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites