Rick 67 #176 January 26, 2016 a bodyguard with a pellet gun, a sumo wrestler and "blowing the battle horns" yep bring in the buses and take them all to the loony binYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SStewart 13 #177 January 26, 2016 Oh the tyranny of wildlife Biology. http://www.hcn.org/articles/carp-lady-linda-beck-malheur-standoff-could-set-back-conservation-by-three-years The irony is she is also the wife of a local rancher.Onward and Upward! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 615 #178 January 26, 2016 Interesting, IIRC, Ben Goldfarb is the son of Dr. Ben Goldfarb that ran the Computer Science department at UCF in Orlando. I supported their mainframes for many years! Outstanding piece as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,040 #179 January 27, 2016 Hi folks, Latest news, Bundy possibly arrested: https://www.rt.com/usa/330249-ammon-bundy-oregon-arrest/ Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,889 #180 January 27, 2016 That would be nice. But it's hard to believe this apparently Russian news site would break it before CNN. Edit to add, on the other hand, maybe they have. http://katu.com/news/local/leader-of-oregon-occupation-ammon-bundy-three-others-arrestedAlways remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,040 #181 January 27, 2016 Hi Ken, Quoteon the other hand, maybe they have The latest KATU news is that eight have been arrested: http://katu.com/news/local/leader-of-oregon-occupation-ammon-bundy-three-others-arrested Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SStewart 13 #182 January 27, 2016 One dead, 5 arrested. http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/bundys_in_custody_one_militant.html#incart_big-photoOnward and Upward! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,101 #183 January 27, 2016 One less Trump voter I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,040 #184 January 27, 2016 Hi Scott, QuoteOne dead, 5 arrested. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oregon-occupation-leader-ammon-bundy-arrested-law-enforcement-sources-n504911 From the article: 'Shots were fired about 4:25 p.m. PST when the FBI and Oregon State Police began an "enforcement action" at the wildlife refuge, the FBI said.' Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,889 #185 January 27, 2016 SkyDekkerOne less Trump voter I guess. Or a new martyr. It'll be interesting to see how each of the candidates tries to spin it to their advantage.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SStewart 13 #186 January 27, 2016 From the same article: Shawna Cox, a mother of 12 and grandmother of 43, has been friends with the Bundy family for about 15 years, Donald Cox said. "She's a cowgirl," he said. "She's a patriot. This is all about her constitutional rights." Unbelievable, she has 43 grandchildren and she decided to throw her life away to go join these criminals. If you value your "rights" and your freedom why would you commit federal crimes and have your freedom taken away? It makes no sense.Onward and Upward! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 615 #187 January 27, 2016 Hey Jerry, Have you seen them comparing this to Michael Brown? Hands up, don't shoot. These guys are nutters with guns IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 14 #188 January 27, 2016 Looking around online it looks like the "movement" is already making him out to be a rallying point and want to have a call to arms for all westerners against the government. I saw a few groups online with 5000+ members calling for an armed reply to this "government murder". Overall most of this is going to be a lot of hot air being blown around but I look for more people to start these "Government over throw" movements.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #189 January 27, 2016 Has anyone seen video of the takedown yet? I haven't. I have no idea if it was "government murder" or completely justifiable.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 615 #190 January 27, 2016 Interesting Bundy FB page and local PBS Twitter and #bundymilitia Some decent timely information as well as an interesting collection of crazies. Eeerly sounds familiar when I say it like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,362 #191 January 27, 2016 Here is the verbal account from the militia guy who was driving one of the two vehicles, (but not arrested): https://www.facebook.com/mark.mcconnell.127648/videos/10154667085229762/ He says Lavoy charged the LEO's."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 615 #192 January 27, 2016 BYE Felicia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #193 January 27, 2016 ryoderHere is the verbal account from the militia guy who was driving one of the two vehicles, (but not arrested): https://www.facebook.com/mark.mcconnell.127648/videos/10154667085229762/ He says Lavoy charged the LEO's. If true, AND AS A KNOWN ARMED CRIMINAL, then I gotta kinda say he was kinda committing suicide by cop.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #194 January 27, 2016 normiss BYE Felicia. Those cops obviously overstepped their authority. They are just thugs in a uniform. They should be in jail.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 615 #195 January 27, 2016 Or don't charge them while in possession of a firearm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,355 #196 January 27, 2016 >If true, AND AS A KNOWN ARMED CRIMINAL, then I gotta kinda say he was >kinda committing suicide by cop. Given that he said he wanted to die for the cause, looks like he got his wish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #197 January 27, 2016 normissOr don't charge them while in possession of a firearm. "Stop Resisting" Well, he stopped. I wonder what your feelings would be if this weren't the Malheur group and was a young black person.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #198 January 27, 2016 This is funny - the last several posts - EVERYONE is trying to be wry and mock the 'other' side. at the same time with the Ferguson example. It takes a special kind of blinders to think the other side is serious when they are making the exact same comparison you are. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #199 January 27, 2016 QuoteI wonder what your feelings would be if this weren't the Malheur group and was a young black person. I can certainly see the apparent disconnect - but you can't just compare it to any young black person, you'd have to compare it to a young black person who you already know for sure was doing something illegal, was posting internet videos about an armed fight against the government and the police, and who the people he was with (not just the cops) say attacked police officers. Even then you can't say yet that the shooting was justified, but I think you can say that it was an outcome of the kind he was likely trying to provoke.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #200 January 27, 2016 jakeeQuoteI wonder what your feelings would be if this weren't the Malheur group and was a young black person. I can certainly see the apparent disconnect - but you can't just compare it to any young black person, you'd have to compare it to a young black person who you already know for sure was doing something illegal, was posting internet videos about an armed fight against the government and the police, and who the people he was with (not just the cops) say attacked police officers. Even then you can't say yet that the shooting was justified, but I think you can say that it was an outcome of the kind he was likely trying to provoke. Militia lives matter!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites