brenthutch 432 #1 December 15, 2015 and their quixotic crusade to save the planet. From John Kerry at the Paris climate conference "… The fact is that even if every American citizen biked to work, carpooled to school, used only solar panels to power their homes, if we each planted a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what – that still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world. If all the industrial nations went down to zero emissions –- remember what I just said, all the industrial emissions went down to zero emissions -– it wouldn’t be enough, not when more than 65% of the world’s carbon pollution comes from the developing world." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #2 December 15, 2015 So what's your point? Is this like the argument, if we can't reduce gun violence to zero within 1 week with a simple law, we should just continue selling military grade weaponry to everybody? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 December 15, 2015 ibx So what's your point? Is this like the argument, if we can't reduce gun violence to zero within 1 week with a simple law, we should just continue selling military grade weaponry to everybody? Military grade? Just like "hands up don't shoot"? If you know where I can get some legally, please let me know. Otherwise admit your lie and move on...."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 432 #4 December 15, 2015 ibxSo what's your point? Is this like the argument, if we can't reduce gun violence to zero within 1 week with a simple law, we should just continue selling military grade weaponry to everybody? Close, more like: If a simple law will have no impact on gun violence, we should continue not violating people's rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #5 December 15, 2015 brenthutch***So what's your point? Is this like the argument, if we can't reduce gun violence to zero within 1 week with a simple law, we should just continue selling military grade weaponry to everybody? Close, more like: If a simple law will have no impact on gun violence, we should continue not violating people's rights. I'd add that if ANY law would have minimal impact on the status quo, just enforce the laws in place. There is no need to further inconvenience anyone else.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,410 #6 December 15, 2015 brenthutchand their quixotic crusade to save the planet. From John Kerry at the Paris climate conference "… The fact is that even if every American citizen biked to work, carpooled to school, used only solar panels to power their homes, if we each planted a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what – that still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world. If all the industrial nations went down to zero emissions –- remember what I just said, all the industrial emissions went down to zero emissions -– it wouldn’t be enough, not when more than 65% of the world’s carbon pollution comes from the developing world." Enough for what? You and Rush have been denying that carbon emissions have any effect on climate change. So if all the industrial nations would go down to zero, the reduction in emissions would not be enough for what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 December 15, 2015 SkyDekker***and their quixotic crusade to save the planet. From John Kerry at the Paris climate conference "… The fact is that even if every American citizen biked to work, carpooled to school, used only solar panels to power their homes, if we each planted a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what – that still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world. If all the industrial nations went down to zero emissions –- remember what I just said, all the industrial emissions went down to zero emissions -– it wouldn’t be enough, not when more than 65% of the world’s carbon pollution comes from the developing world." Enough for what? You and Rush have been denying that carbon emissions have any effect on climate change. So if all the industrial nations would go down to zero, the reduction in emissions would not be enough for what? to change anything or The "save the planet" as the alarmists like to say"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,410 #8 December 15, 2015 Quoteto change anything Yes a 35% reduction in carbon pollution is not a change. That's some mighty fine logic there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 December 15, 2015 SkyDekkerQuoteto change anything Yes a 35% reduction in carbon pollution is not a change. That's some mighty fine logic there. Carbon pollution! Ya'all better stop breathing then Please! You eco nuts are funny anymore"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,410 #10 December 15, 2015 rushmc***Quoteto change anything Yes a 35% reduction in carbon pollution is not a change. That's some mighty fine logic there. Carbon pollution! Ya'all better stop breathing then Please! You eco nuts are funny anymore Brenthutch posted it, not sure why you would call him an eco nut. He is in your camp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 432 #11 December 15, 2015 SkyDekker***and their quixotic crusade to save the planet. From John Kerry at the Paris climate conference "… The fact is that even if every American citizen biked to work, carpooled to school, used only solar panels to power their homes, if we each planted a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what – that still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world. If all the industrial nations went down to zero emissions –- remember what I just said, all the industrial emissions went down to zero emissions -– it wouldn’t be enough, not when more than 65% of the world’s carbon pollution comes from the developing world." Enough for what? You and Rush have been denying that carbon emissions have any effect on climate change. So if all the industrial nations would go down to zero, the reduction in emissions would not be enough for what? Kerry's quote was in the context of saving the planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #12 December 15, 2015 ibxSo what's your point? Is this like the argument, if we can't reduce gun violence to zero within 1 week with a simple law, we should just continue selling military grade weaponry to everybody? What?! Do you think we all have fully auto m-16, mp5, and Abrams tanks over here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,410 #13 December 15, 2015 brenthutch******and their quixotic crusade to save the planet. From John Kerry at the Paris climate conference "… The fact is that even if every American citizen biked to work, carpooled to school, used only solar panels to power their homes, if we each planted a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what – that still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world. If all the industrial nations went down to zero emissions –- remember what I just said, all the industrial emissions went down to zero emissions -– it wouldn’t be enough, not when more than 65% of the world’s carbon pollution comes from the developing world." Enough for what? You and Rush have been denying that carbon emissions have any effect on climate change. So if all the industrial nations would go down to zero, the reduction in emissions would not be enough for what? Kerry's quote was in the context of saving the planet. That is what makes me laugh. This isn't really about saving the planet. The planet will remain, this is more about trying to keep reduction in population to a minimum. Though, personally I think antibiotic resistant bacteria will reduce the population long before climate change will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 432 #14 December 15, 2015 SkyDekker*********and their quixotic crusade to save the planet. From John Kerry at the Paris climate conference "… The fact is that even if every American citizen biked to work, carpooled to school, used only solar panels to power their homes, if we each planted a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what – that still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world. If all the industrial nations went down to zero emissions –- remember what I just said, all the industrial emissions went down to zero emissions -– it wouldn’t be enough, not when more than 65% of the world’s carbon pollution comes from the developing world." Enough for what? You and Rush have been denying that carbon emissions have any effect on climate change. So if all the industrial nations would go down to zero, the reduction in emissions would not be enough for what? Kerry's quote was in the context of saving the planet. That is what makes me laugh. This isn't really about saving the planet. It makes me laugh as well, what it is really about is a hundred billion dollar a year wealth transfer to a bunch of third world despots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #15 December 15, 2015 SkyDekker*********and their quixotic crusade to save the planet. From John Kerry at the Paris climate conference "… The fact is that even if every American citizen biked to work, carpooled to school, used only solar panels to power their homes, if we each planted a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what – that still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world. If all the industrial nations went down to zero emissions –- remember what I just said, all the industrial emissions went down to zero emissions -– it wouldn’t be enough, not when more than 65% of the world’s carbon pollution comes from the developing world." Enough for what? You and Rush have been denying that carbon emissions have any effect on climate change. So if all the industrial nations would go down to zero, the reduction in emissions would not be enough for what? Kerry's quote was in the context of saving the planet. That is what makes me laugh. This isn't really about saving the planet. The planet will remain, this is more about trying to keep reduction in population to a minimum. Though, personally I think antibiotic resistant bacteria will reduce the population long before climate change will. Ut Oh. We have an anti-vaxer here boys, step back and don't make eye contact.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 December 15, 2015 SkyDekker*********and their quixotic crusade to save the planet. From John Kerry at the Paris climate conference "… The fact is that even if every American citizen biked to work, carpooled to school, used only solar panels to power their homes, if we each planted a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what – that still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world. If all the industrial nations went down to zero emissions –- remember what I just said, all the industrial emissions went down to zero emissions -– it wouldn’t be enough, not when more than 65% of the world’s carbon pollution comes from the developing world." Enough for what? You and Rush have been denying that carbon emissions have any effect on climate change. So if all the industrial nations would go down to zero, the reduction in emissions would not be enough for what? Kerry's quote was in the context of saving the planet. That is what makes me laugh. This isn't really about saving the planet. The planet will remain, this is more about trying to keep reduction in population to a minimum. Though, personally I think antibiotic resistant bacteria will reduce the population long before climate change will. The econ nuts say it is saving the planet Of course that just follows the emotional crap they push to try and make thinking people believe in the deception"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,384 #17 December 15, 2015 There's a huge difference between an anti-vaxer and someone who's concerned about the overuse of antibiotics. I think the antibiotic-resistant bacteria will largely attack the wealthier nations; the people in the poorer ones don't have as generalized access to antibiotics, so most of their bacteria are still killable. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,410 #18 December 15, 2015 QuoteUt Oh. We have an anti-vaxer here boys, step back and don't make eye contact. Uhmmm, no. Quite the opposite actually. Vaccines could possibly help in preventing bacteria to become antibiotic resistant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,410 #19 December 15, 2015 QuoteIt makes me laugh as well, what it is really about is a hundred billion dollar a year wealth transfer to a bunch of third world despots. I see that like Rush you believe climate change was invented so the world can trick the US into giving money to the rest of the world. Interesting concept. Exactly what is in it for Exxon Mobile to agree with Climate Change? Or are they "in" on the conspiracy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 432 #20 December 15, 2015 SkyDekkerQuoteIt makes me laugh as well, what it is really about is a hundred billion dollar a year wealth transfer to a bunch of third world despots. I see that like Rush you believe climate change was invented so the world can trick the US into giving money to the rest of the world. Interesting concept. Exactly what is in it for Exxon Mobile to agree with Climate Change? Or are they "in" on the conspiracy? Not as far fetched as you may think. From the Copenhagen agreement: Agrees a "goal" for the world to raise $100 billion per year by 2020, from "a wide variety of sources", to help developing countries cut carbon emissions (mitigation). New multilateral funding for adaptation will be delivered, with a governance structure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,410 #21 December 15, 2015 brenthutch***QuoteIt makes me laugh as well, what it is really about is a hundred billion dollar a year wealth transfer to a bunch of third world despots. I see that like Rush you believe climate change was invented so the world can trick the US into giving money to the rest of the world. Interesting concept. Exactly what is in it for Exxon Mobile to agree with Climate Change? Or are they "in" on the conspiracy? Not as far fetched as you may think. From the Copenhagen agreement: Agrees a "goal" for the world to raise $100 billion per year by 2020, from "a wide variety of sources", to help developing countries cut carbon emissions (mitigation). New multilateral funding for adaptation will be delivered, with a governance structure. There is no doubt that in order to combat increasing carbon emissions, money is required in the emerging markets. Burning carbon with reckless abandon is how the west industrialized. Hard to now tell emerging markets they are not allowed to do so without funding alternatives. But then, you operate from the premise that climate change is one big hoax, so any conversation really stops after that. Like when somebody says the earth is flat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,445 #22 December 15, 2015 QuoteQuoteThough, personally I think antibiotic resistant bacteria will reduce the population long before climate change will.Ut Oh. We have an anti-vaxer here boys, step back and don't make eye contact. Um, LOL Wut?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 432 #23 December 15, 2015 I agree with John Kerry are you calling him a flat earther? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #24 December 15, 2015 jakee Quote Quote Though, personally I think antibiotic resistant bacteria will reduce the population long before climate change will. Ut Oh. We have an anti-vaxer here boys, step back and don't make eye contact. Um, LOL Wut? It's called sarcasm.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,917 #25 December 15, 2015 >If a simple law will have no impact on gun violence, we should continue not violating people's rights. So, following that concept, if a simple law will have a significant impact on gun violence, and will not significantly violate people's rights, we should pursue it - even if it does not solve the problem 100%. Works for both carbon and guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites