billvon 2,913 #26 November 20, 2015 >He would Require Muslims To register In A Database Cue the political commentators - "This Time He's REALLY Gone Too Far!" (part 7) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,913 #27 November 20, 2015 >and we would not have this aaaarrrab problem anymore. I believe it's properly pronounced "ayrab." (And Trump is the only one with a final solution.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #28 November 20, 2015 It is really getting to the point I must wonder if Trump isn't really just playing the ultimate prank to demonstrate just how stupid a large portion of the American public really is."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #29 November 20, 2015 wolfriverjoeWell, Trump "trumped" himself. He would Require Muslims To register In A Database He doesn't say how soon he'd require them to attach identifying patches to their clothes (a crescent moon would be nice), or maybe restrict them to certain neighborhoods, or maybe round them up and put them in "resettlement camps." I figured this one would have its own thread by now Oh well But anyway, since it is being reported as it is His pole number will be up tomorrow!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #30 November 20, 2015 rushmcHis pole number will be up tomorrow! I can fix the sentence 4 different ways here with spelling or otherwise guessing, and they all provide very different meanings. And I don't like how any of the 4 turn out... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #31 November 20, 2015 rehmwa ***His pole number will be up tomorrow! I can fix the sentence 4 different ways here with spelling or otherwise guessing, and they all provide very different meanings. And I don't like how any of the 4 turn out... Lol Opps "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #32 November 20, 2015 rushmc ******His pole number will be up tomorrow! I can fix the sentence 4 different ways here with spelling or otherwise guessing, and they all provide very different meanings. And I don't like how any of the 4 turn out... Lol Opps Yes, "Opps"...Yes indeed ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,445 #33 November 20, 2015 wolfriverjoe Well, Trump "trumped" himself. He would Require Muslims To register In A Database No, sorry, he didn't. This is one occasion where the mass media is deliberately misinterpreting him in search of a 'gotcha' headline. The reporter asked Trump about a Muslim database and he replied with a non-commital "There should be a lot of systems..." but then moved onto say "But right now we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall" So when the reporter asks him if he'd do it and he says "Oh I would certainly implement that. Absolutely... It would stop people coming in illegally" then he is clearly and obviously talking about border control, not a muslim database. NBC should be ashamed of themselves, NYT should be ashamed of themselves. Gutter journalismDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,496 #34 November 20, 2015 jakee ***Well, Trump "trumped" himself. He would Require Muslims To register In A Database No, sorry, he didn't. This is one occasion where the mass media is deliberately misinterpreting him in search of a 'gotcha' headline. The reporter asked Trump about a Muslim database and he replied with a non-commital "There should be a lot of systems..." but then moved onto say "But right now we have to have a border, we have to have strength, we have to have a wall" So when the reporter asks him if he'd do it and he says "Oh I would certainly implement that. Absolutely... It would stop people coming in illegally" then he is clearly and obviously talking about border control, not a muslim database. NBC should be ashamed of themselves, NYT should be ashamed of themselves. Gutter journalismI don't know. The video from the NBC site (there's a link to it in the story I linked) has him clearly stating "at mosques and other places." I understand what you mean about him talking about immigrants, and he may only mean he wants to register muslim immigrants and not citizens. But it doesn't come across that way."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 767 #35 November 20, 2015 Stop it...please....it hurts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 767 #36 November 20, 2015 When do we get to start smashing windows? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,445 #37 November 20, 2015 QuoteI don't know. The video from the NBC site (there's a link to it in the story I linked) has him clearly stating "at mosques and other places." No he doesn't. He never says mosque, only the reporter does. Trump is clearly not paying attention to the guy, he's being asked about one subject and answering about another. Next sentences Reporter: "Would they legally have to be in these databases?" Trump: "They have to, they have to, let me tell you - the key is they can come to this country but they have to do it legally." He is 100% talking about a completely different subject. Come on, it's not as if he doesn't say enough ludicrous shit on his own that you need to put words in his mouth about this.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #38 November 21, 2015 wmw999 If some conservatives can talk shit about "Obama's 57 states" then some liberals can talk shit about the magical growth of Connecticut. Since he did his undergraduate work at Yale, it's possible he's still using one of their maps. I'm sure Yale maps magnify the importance of Connecticut in order to establish its primacy among the states. Not to mention to dis Massachusetts, the ancestral home of the evil Harvard Wendy P. Yes, he is a maroon.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #39 November 21, 2015 wmw999 If some conservatives can talk shit about "Obama's 57 states" then some liberals can talk shit about the magical growth of Connecticut. Since he did his undergraduate work at Yale, it's possible he's still using one of their maps. I'm sure Yale maps magnify the importance of Connecticut in order to establish its primacy among the states. Not to mention to dis Massachusetts, the ancestral home of the evil Harvard Wendy P. We need to bring in an expert on maps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,142 #40 November 21, 2015 NY Times The Opinion Pages | Op-Ed Contributor Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It By KAMEL DAOUDNOV. 20, 2015 Black Daesh, white Daesh. The former slits throats, kills, stones, cuts off hands, destroys humanity’s common heritage and despises archaeology, women and non-Muslims. The latter is better dressed and neater but does the same things. The Islamic State; Saudi Arabia. In its struggle against terrorism, the West wages war on one, but shakes hands with the other. This is a mechanism of denial, and denial has a price: preserving the famous strategic alliance with Saudi Arabia at the risk of forgetting that the kingdom also relies on an alliance with a religious clergy that produces, legitimizes, spreads, preaches and defends Wahhabism, the ultra-puritanical form of Islam that Daesh feeds on. Wahhabism, a messianic radicalism that arose in the 18th century, hopes to restore a fantasized caliphate centered on a desert, a sacred book, and two holy sites, Mecca and Medina. Born in massacre and blood, it manifests itself in a surreal relationship with women, a prohibition against non-Muslims treading on sacred territory, and ferocious religious laws. That translates into an obsessive hatred of imagery and representation and therefore art, but also of the body, nakedness and freedom. Saudi Arabia is a Daesh that has made it. The West’s denial regarding Saudi Arabia is striking: It salutes the theocracy as its ally but pretends not to notice that it is the world’s chief ideological sponsor of Islamist culture. The younger generations of radicals in the so-called Arab world were not born jihadists. They were suckled in the bosom of Fatwa Valley, a kind of Islamist Vatican with a vast industry that produces theologians, religious laws, books, and aggressive editorial policies and media campaigns. One might counter: Isn’t Saudi Arabia itself a possible target of Daesh? Yes, but to focus on that would be to overlook the strength of the ties between the reigning family and the clergy that accounts for its stability — and also, increasingly, for its precariousness. The Saudi royals are caught in a perfect trap: Weakened by succession laws that encourage turnover, they cling to ancestral ties between king and preacher. The Saudi clergy produces Islamism, which both threatens the country and gives legitimacy to the regime. One has to live in the Muslim world to understand the immense transformative influence of religious television channels on society by accessing its weak links: households, women, rural areas. Islamist culture is widespread in many countries — Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Mali, Mauritania. There are thousands of Islamist newspapers and clergies that impose a unitary vision of the world, tradition and clothing on the public space, on the wording of the government’s laws and on the rituals of a society they deem to be contaminated. It is worth reading certain Islamist newspapers to see their reactions to the attacks in Paris. The West is cast as a land of “infidels.” The attacks were the result of the onslaught against Islam. Muslims and Arabs have become the enemies of the secular and the Jews. The Palestinian question is invoked along with the rape of Iraq and the memory of colonial trauma, and packaged into a messianic discourse meant to seduce the masses. Such talk spreads in the social spaces below, while up above, political leaders send their condolences to France and denounce a crime against humanity. This totally schizophrenic situation parallels the West’s denial regarding Saudi Arabia. All of which leaves one skeptical of Western democracies’ thunderous declarations regarding the necessity of fighting terrorism. Their war can only be myopic, for it targets the effect rather than the cause. Since ISIS is first and foremost a culture, not a militia, how do you prevent future generations from turning to jihadism when the influence of Fatwa Valley and its clerics and its culture and its immense editorial industry remains intact? Continue reading the main story Sign Up for the Opinion Today Newsletter Every weekday, get thought-provoking commentary from Op-Ed columnists, The Times editorial board and contributing writers from around the world. Is curing the disease therefore a simple matter? Hardly. Saudi Arabia remains an ally of the West in the many chess games playing out in the Middle East. It is preferred to Iran, that gray Daesh. And there’s the trap. Denial creates the illusion of equilibrium. Jihadism is denounced as the scourge of the century but no consideration is given to what created it or supports it. This may allow saving face, but not saving lives. Daesh has a mother: the invasion of Iraq. But it also has a father: Saudi Arabia and its religious-industrial complex. Until that point is understood, battles may be won, but the war will be lost. Jihadists will be killed, only to be reborn again in future generations and raised on the same books. The attacks in Paris have exposed this contradiction again, but as happened after 9/11, it risks being erased from our analyses and our consciences. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/21/opinion/saudi-arabia-an-isis-that-has-made-it.html?action=click&contentCollection=Middle%20East&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full®ion=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,935 #41 November 24, 2015 So The USA is a NATO ally of Turkey. Turkey is launching air strikes against the PKK (Kurds). The Kurds are fighting ISIL. Turkey is fighting ISIL. ISIL is fighting the Shia. Iran is Shia. We hate Iran. We are bombing ISIL. We hate al-Assad. ISIL is fighting al-Assad. PKK is fighting al-Assad. Russia is bombing ISIL. ISIL bombs France. France bombs ISIL. Turkey shoots down Russian warplane. It's all very simple. Just like Serbia in 1914.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #42 November 24, 2015 Turkey is in hot water just in time for Thanksgiving-The internet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,935 #43 November 29, 2015 Some perspective: securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/deadly-attacks.html Doesn't include the latest shootings in Colorado, which look like they may well be domestic terrorism.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 767 #44 November 29, 2015 Why does the US government give tax exempt status to terrorist organizations? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 235 #45 November 29, 2015 normiss Why does the US government give tax exempt status to terrorist organizations? It seems rather a few of the more popular terrorist organizations claim to be strictly for prophet, come to think of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,935 #46 November 29, 2015 winsor ***Why does the US government give tax exempt status to terrorist organizations? Well, they're nonprofit... True!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 767 #47 November 29, 2015 Check out Joel Osteen's mansion. Tax free multimillion dollar mansion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #48 November 29, 2015 normiss Check out Joel Osteen's mansion. Tax free multimillion dollar mansion. no it's not, what are you talking about?Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 767 #49 November 30, 2015 Everything I've read says "owned by the church". Feel free to prove me wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #50 November 30, 2015 normiss Everything I've read says "owned by the church". Feel free to prove me wrong. How about proving yourself right for once?Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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