jclalor 12 #1 October 21, 2015 And so it goes... http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/21/four-year-old-girl-killed-in-road-rage-shooting-on-new-mexico-freeway/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2 October 21, 2015 jclalor And so it goes... http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/21/four-year-old-girl-killed-in-road-rage-shooting-on-new-mexico-freeway/ What is your fix?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #3 October 22, 2015 turtlespeed*** And so it goes... http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/21/four-year-old-girl-killed-in-road-rage-shooting-on-new-mexico-freeway/ What is your fix? For starters, no loaded weapons in cars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 124 #4 October 22, 2015 the only thing that can stop a bad road-rager with a gun is a good road-rager with a gun. Remember that now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #5 October 22, 2015 If you witnessed someone shooting from their car at another car, what would you do? Derek V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #6 October 22, 2015 HooknswoopIf you witnessed someone shooting from their car at another car, what would you do? Derek VCall 911 + mind my business + get my ass in a safe place. And what would you do ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #7 October 22, 2015 QuoteCall 911 + mind my business + get my ass in a safe place. Very reasonable, smart, and I would imagine, popular response. Why would you call 911? Derek V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #8 October 22, 2015 I guess they would need the information and maybe dispatch some valuable officers there (or maybe they already know about it because there were cops in one of the cars). What would you do ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #9 October 22, 2015 Quote I guess they would need the information and maybe dispatch some valuable officers there (or maybe they already know about it because there were cops in one of the cars). Right. You call people with guns to handle the situation. I would do the same thing. Only difference is if I was the one being shot at, I would have a fighting chance to defend myself and not just hope people with guns got there in time. Derek V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #10 October 22, 2015 You should drive an M1-Abrams just in case.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Abrams You would be protected against most regular weapons, and could also retaliate.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,620 #11 October 22, 2015 HooknswoopQuote I guess they would need the information and maybe dispatch some valuable officers there (or maybe they already know about it because there were cops in one of the cars). Right. You call people with guns to handle the situation. I would do the same thing. Only difference is if I was the one being shot at, I would have a fighting chance to defend myself and not just hope people with guns got there in time. Derek V I would not trust anyone, gun owner or not, who had not had tactical training. That includes all of the John Wayne wannabees who post on here.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #12 October 22, 2015 HooknswoopQuote I guess they would need the information and maybe dispatch some valuable officers there (or maybe they already know about it because there were cops in one of the cars). Right. You call people with guns to handle the situation. no, I call the police. They can come with guns, or nets, or tazers, or trébuchets, I don't care. I first expect them to come with brains and handle the situation accordingly.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #13 October 22, 2015 Do expect to need your cypress? I expect not. But you still have it, just in case. You hope you never need it, but if you do need it, it could save your life. You have made the choice that it is a reasonable precaution against unforeseen events. The same argument could be made for a concealed firearm. Your plan is to call the police, the people with guns. If someone shoots at you in your vehicle, that is your only option. A firearm may not do you any good in your situation, but I would rather have a firearm than. 911 on the phone if I am ever in that situation. I also have a fire extinguisher in my truck. I hope I never need it and it may not be enough to stop my vehicle, or someone else's, from burning to the ground. But if my truck was on fire, I would prefer to have a chance vs. standing there watching it burn waiting with 911 for the fire truck to get there. I don't drive around scared that my truck might burst into flames at any second any more than I go through my day scared someone will shoot at me. I consider either of those to be very unlikely to ever happen. About as likely as needing my Cypress. A firearm, a Cypress, a fire extinguisher, all reasonable precautions I think. I never drove an M1-A1. I did get to drive a Bradely once. While you are correct, very secure against small arms fire, they go beyond reasonable precaution for sure. Derek V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #14 October 22, 2015 QuoteI first expect them to come with brains and handle the situation accordingly. If someone is shooting at you, waiting for the police to show up with their guns to save you has been demonstrated to be a very poor plan. Derek V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 October 22, 2015 you guys will pry my trébuchet out of my cold dead hands ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #16 October 22, 2015 HooknswoopQuoteI first expect them to come with brains and handle the situation accordingly. If someone is shooting at you, waiting for the police to show up with their guns to save you has been demonstrated to be a very poor plan. Derek VI do realize that we do live in different worlds and in my world, people with guns are not a problem. At least not big enough to need to be armed.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,902 #17 October 22, 2015 Angry man, has a gun. Well.....shooting at and killing people is what they are designed for. May as well use the tool you have handy..... http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/22/us/child-road-rage-killing/index.html Details about the shooter and the motive.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,380 #18 October 22, 2015 >Only difference is if I was the one being shot at, I would have a fighting chance >to defend myself and not just hope people with guns got there in time. You'd use the barrel of your gun to deflect the incoming bullets? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #19 October 22, 2015 billvon>Only difference is if I was the one being shot at, I would have a fighting chance >to defend myself and not just hope people with guns got there in time. You'd use the barrel of your gun to deflect the incoming bullets? Hey, when you only have seconds to save your life, police are only minutes away.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #20 October 22, 2015 rehmwayou guys will pry my trébuchet out of my cold dead hands I propose a common-sense ban on siege engines as they aren't effective for defensive purposes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #21 October 22, 2015 champu***you guys will pry my trébuchet out of my cold dead hands I propose a common-sense ban on siege engines as they aren't effective for defensive purposes. you are just like all the other catapult banners - and it's a slippery slope - next thing will be maces, and then freakin' boiling oil. then.....the freakin' battering ram registration - you didn't see any battering rams in Germany did you? that's how Hitler started it It's none of your business how many gallons of oil I own. battering rams don't plunder and rape - battering rams open the gates so PEOPLE can plunder and rape but, if we could just save ONE peasant...just one ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #22 October 22, 2015 rehmwayou guys will pry my trébuchet out of my cold dead hands dude - you sicken me. this thread is about a shooting and you're off making jokes. I'm disgusted ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,902 #23 October 22, 2015 rehmwa***you guys will pry my trébuchet out of my cold dead hands dude - you sicken me. this thread is about a shooting and you're off making jokes. I'm disgusted Are you disgusted enough to do something about getting some of the guns off the streets? Joking is how some people cope with the gun sickness infesting America.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #24 October 22, 2015 Joking is how I entertain myself while watching the same trite quotes and partisan blindness on Speaker's Corner. Is your entertainment via interesting parsing and grammar experiments? I approve. nicely done. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 620 #25 October 22, 2015 Maybe he could have taken out the dangerous 7 year old too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites