rehmwa 2 #276 October 5, 2015 it's a nice picture, but they only have one of them, and it's just parked on the French border in case the French ever decide to invade. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #278 October 5, 2015 skycopQuoteNo, they fucking don't. There is a method called deescalation practiced very successfully by Germany law enforcement. We also have IED laying criminals. Really............... I've met a few Polizei over the years, good guys, they said the same thing almost every European officer said when they found out I was an American LEO. They said it was crazy and they'd never do it. Mainly because our society is so heavily armed and the criminals have so many rights. I'm pretty confident in saying if someone was shooting at them in a prolonged stand-off, they'd shoot back. Ooooo snap. Germans DO have armored vehicles!There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #279 October 6, 2015 QuoteOoooo snap. Germans DO have armored vehicles! They do. And it's not a problem since they are only used when there is mass unrest, like the civil unrest during 68 revolution. The German government took lots of flack due to how they reacted and policy has since changed. They are hardly ever used to confront criminals because the sight of an APC would make potential gunmen more aggressive, the German police tries to talk them down even if it takes days, which it sometimes does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xsniper 1 #280 October 8, 2015 ibxQuoteCops don't need armored vehicles. Nope, no way............. IED's you say? Nope, no way. No, they fucking don't. There is a method called deescalation practiced very successfully by Germany law enforcement. We also have IED laying criminals. We cope without bloody military weap _____________________________________________ Having worked with and trained with German SWAT teams over many years I am not sure your statement is totally accurate. But I also realize to try to make a alternate response is only going to lead to "hellfire". Suffice it to say that they are wonderful operators who I would be proud to work with. Yes, Normiss, change is coming, and change is needed, as it is necessary in many areas of our society and government. But until then, someone still has to have their finger in the hole in the dike. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #281 October 9, 2015 QuoteHaving worked with and trained with German SWAT teams over many years I am not sure your statement is totally accurate. But I also realize to try to make a alternate response is only going to lead to "hellfire". Thats interesting. Did you train with the SEK or GSG9? The fact remains that German police discharge their weapons about 100 times a year, that's all cops put together. I would say they are doing something different. If you have a different first person experience, I would love to hear it. http://www.dw.com/en/why-german-police-officers-rarely-reach-for-their-guns/a-17884779 https://www.rt.com/usa/us-germany-85-shots-022/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMK 3 #282 October 27, 2015 more professionalism from the men in blue: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/562e9e71e4b06317990f1927 Yes, yes we "don't know the whole story" bullshit. Regardless of what the young student said/did, this is not how it should be addressed."Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #283 October 27, 2015 RMK more professionalism from the men in blue: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/562e9e71e4b06317990f1927 Yes, yes we "don't know the whole story" bullshit. Regardless of what the young student said/did, this is not how it should be addressed. before police error, in my opinion, there is school error. Why would you call the police to remove a student from a classrooom ? scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 720 #284 October 27, 2015 Parents and attorneys? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #285 October 27, 2015 normissParents and attorneys?what would they have to do in that story ? Despite loving lots of things about the USA and the Americans, I am pretty happy to live in a different system.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #286 October 27, 2015 piisfish ***more professionalism from the men in blue: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/562e9e71e4b06317990f1927 Yes, yes we "don't know the whole story" bullshit. Regardless of what the young student said/did, this is not how it should be addressed. before police error, in my opinion, there is school error. Why would you call the police to remove a student from a classrooom ? In the Carolina's.... where I just visited... they have private security police officers IN the schools as a response to the Sandy Hook and other issues. My first cousin and his wife run one of these companies and have a pretty large group of officers serving in this capacity. They are required to go to the same training as regular patrol officers.... and have the same responsibilities in a limited capacity on school grounds in their districts. His son is also county sheriff and we discussed some of the issues in respect to many of the problems we are seeing... It is a sad state of affairs..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #287 October 27, 2015 Amazon ******more professionalism from the men in blue: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/562e9e71e4b06317990f1927 Yes, yes we "don't know the whole story" bullshit. Regardless of what the young student said/did, this is not how it should be addressed. before police error, in my opinion, there is school error. Why would you call the police to remove a student from a classrooom ? In the Carolina's.... where I just visited... they have private security police officers IN the schools as a response to the Sandy Hook and other issues. My first cousin and his wife run one of these companies and have a pretty large group of officers serving in this capacity. They are required to go to the same training as regular patrol officers.... and have the same responsibilities in a limited capacity on school grounds in their districts. His son is also county sheriff and we discussed some of the issues in respect to many of the problems we are seeing... It is a sad state of affairs..... Yeah these days kids are calling teachers curse words, fighting them, threatening their lives, and damaging their personal property. They sure don't raise kids like they used to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 720 #288 October 27, 2015 "Why would you call the police to remove a student from a classrooom?" Parents and attorneys. The sue happy American is disgusting. It's odd how the police state works here. Amazing to travel and enjoy it's absence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #289 October 27, 2015 QuoteYeah these days kids are calling teachers curse words, fighting them, threatening their lives, and damaging their personal property. Are they? My best friend is a teacher. I've asked him if any kids have ever threatened him, fought him, or damaged his property. The answer is no. He teaches in a small to mid sized city. The real world is not all 'Dangerous Minds'. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #290 October 27, 2015 DanGQuoteYeah these days kids are calling teachers curse words, fighting them, threatening their lives, and damaging their personal property. Are they? My best friend is a teacher. I've asked him if any kids have ever threatened him, fought him, or damaged his property. The answer is no. He teaches in a small to mid sized city. The real world is not all 'Dangerous Minds'. It was pointed out in another thread, you can jump 999 through clouds and not hit an airplane on the way down, but once is enough to kill you so we have laws against it. I can only assume this is the motivation behind these policiesI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #291 October 27, 2015 Driver1 *** Quote COMPLY OR DIE..... Yup there is some great respect for civil and human rights and our constitution that so many officers seem to be wiping their asses with Holy shit Right!! all this time i thought this was America and we had rights. Guess we were wrong, in whose book are you the ass hole if you grab the stick you are being hit with? Every time i see a cop act like a politician making excuses the standard bull shit line i lose more respect. If your a cop you should be more pissed then anyone in the public, and should voice that. When you form your BLUE BROTHERHOOD you lose your integrity. You lose integrity you lose respect. I understand EVERYONE understands there are some bad apples but when you protect your bad apples you become the same. Every Police Department that has been caught, This is going back to the 80s the police lie and try to hide the truth. When they are convicted (when there is video that they can't destroy) they typically get a slap on the wrist. If this is not fixed it will be bad for everyone. Hey, we have our issues, but I sure damn well would prefer to encounter a cop here than those in Iran. There is so many things i don't like about this reply, but ill make it simple for you. what does Iranian police and however they act which i would bet my monthly income on, that you have ZERO knowledge of anyway! have to do with how horrific the US police act????I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #292 October 27, 2015 Do we need corporal punishment back in the schools? Better parents? i still call my teachers and elders sir or mam i am fucking 40. Say whatever you want but there is something to that old way of thinking. where people acted better because they had to because they were held accountable and to a higher standard. Cops are just people they have gotten worst maybe because people have gotten worst.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #293 October 27, 2015 DanGQuoteYeah these days kids are calling teachers curse words, fighting them, threatening their lives, and damaging their personal property. Are they? My best friend is a teacher. I've asked him if any kids have ever threatened him, fought him, or damaged his property. The answer is no. He teaches in a small to mid sized city. The real world is not all 'Dangerous Minds'. We your friend says no so I guess it doesn't happen. But for shits b giggles how about you google and watch all the YouTube videos of kids cussing out teachers in class, the fights, threats, etc and stop being narrow minded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 280 #294 October 27, 2015 cvfd1399***QuoteYeah these days kids are calling teachers curse words, fighting them, threatening their lives, and damaging their personal property. Are they? My best friend is a teacher. I've asked him if any kids have ever threatened him, fought him, or damaged his property. The answer is no. He teaches in a small to mid sized city. The real world is not all 'Dangerous Minds'. We your friend says no so I guess it doesn't happen. But for shits b giggles how about you google and watch all the YouTube videos of kids cussing out teachers in class, the fights, threats, etc and stop being narrow minded. Ahhhh - you base your view of the world on Youtube videos. That explains a LOT.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #295 October 27, 2015 Stumpy ****** Quote Yeah these days kids are calling teachers curse words, fighting them, threatening their lives, and damaging their personal property. Are they? My best friend is a teacher. I've asked him if any kids have ever threatened him, fought him, or damaged his property. The answer is no. He teaches in a small to mid sized city. The real world is not all 'Dangerous Minds'. We your friend says no so I guess it doesn't happen. But for shits b giggles how about you google and watch all the YouTube videos of kids cussing out teachers in class, the fights, threats, etc and stop being narrow minded. Ahhhh - you base your view of the world on Youtube videos. That explains a LOT. One is not exclusive. It is a venue to show you these things DO happen despite the liberal claim that it is rare, if it even occurs at all. I personally know a teacher that was stabbed in the neck with a pencil, because she told a kid to sit down and stay quiet. No charges, no action except a one day suspension. She had to let the little cretin back in her class too.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 280 #296 October 27, 2015 turtlespeed It is a venue to show you these things DO happen despite the liberal claim that it is rare, if it even occurs at all. Who said it doesn't occur at all? Youtube is always going to be full of the sensational - a lesson where nothing happens is not great viewing. The sensational is rare by definition.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #297 October 27, 2015 Stumpy*** It is a venue to show you these things DO happen despite the liberal claim that it is rare, if it even occurs at all. Who said it doesn't occur at all? Youtube is always going to be full of the sensational - a lesson where nothing happens is not great viewing. The sensational is rare by definition. So are you saying it is very rare?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #298 October 27, 2015 It happened to my 9th grade math teacher a guy kept being an ass to her in class and she wrote him up. The next day they found sugar in her gas tank and video evidence of that same guy doing from a security camera across the street of her house. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,537 #299 October 27, 2015 RMK more professionalism from the men in blue: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/562e9e71e4b06317990f1927 Yes, yes we "don't know the whole story" bullshit. Regardless of what the young student said/did, this is not how it should be addressed. An arrest has been made; The cop? Oh, hell no; They arrested the student who filmed it: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/sc-student-arrested-for-recording-school-cops-violent-assault-on-classmate-sitting-in-her-desk/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #300 October 28, 2015 ryoder ***more professionalism from the men in blue: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/562e9e71e4b06317990f1927 Yes, yes we "don't know the whole story" bullshit. Regardless of what the young student said/did, this is not how it should be addressed. An arrest has been made; The cop? Oh, hell no; They arrested the student who filmed it: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/sc-student-arrested-for-recording-school-cops-violent-assault-on-classmate-sitting-in-her-desk/Gotta love our own version of a third world shithole with cops who would be right at home in any dictatorship in the world Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites