kallend 1,619 #1 August 9, 2015 just collateral damage in a free country, right? www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/09/houston-police-discover-bodies-of-5-children-3-adults-in-home-after-standoff/ www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/09/boom-boom-boom-two-people-dead-and-two-police-officers-wounded-after-gunman-goes-on-rampage-in-north-carolina/... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #2 August 9, 2015 kallend just collateral damage in a free country, right? www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/09/houston-police-discover-bodies-of-5-children-3-adults-in-home-after-standoff/ www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/09/boom-boom-boom-two-people-dead-and-two-police-officers-wounded-after-gunman-goes-on-rampage-in-north-carolina/ The solution to this recurring problem has been repeated on these forums 100s of times -- more guns for more people. But it just keeps falling on deaf ears. Therefore blame the liberals for mass shootings. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #3 August 9, 2015 kallend just collateral damage in a free country, right? www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/09/houston-police-discover-bodies-of-5-children-3-adults-in-home-after-standoff/ www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/09/boom-boom-boom-two-people-dead-and-two-police-officers-wounded-after-gunman-goes-on-rampage-in-north-carolina/ I am sure Henry VIII would be good with mass shootings but his daughter Mary preferred other means in that tit for tat in Bloody(or crispy) Old England. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #4 August 9, 2015 Last time there was a shooting at the theatre thread I tried to brainstorm issues and solutions the only one to join in was normiiss, and he rage quit after I found issues with a couple his solutions. Liberals exist here only to circlejerk guns, cops, and the GOP. Bring a towel if your going to join in. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,619 #5 August 9, 2015 Amazon *** just collateral damage in a free country, right? www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/09/houston-police-discover-bodies-of-5-children-3-adults-in-home-after-standoff/ www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/09/boom-boom-boom-two-people-dead-and-two-police-officers-wounded-after-gunman-goes-on-rampage-in-north-carolina/ I am sure Henry VIII would be good with mass shootings but his daughter Mary preferred other means in that tit for tat in Bloody(or crispy) Old England. As did the colonists in Salem, Mass. and the KKK in the south in the Jim Crow years. However, none of that is remotely relevant to mass shootings in the 21st Century.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #6 August 9, 2015 kallend ****** just collateral damage in a free country, right? www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/09/houston-police-discover-bodies-of-5-children-3-adults-in-home-after-standoff/ www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/09/boom-boom-boom-two-people-dead-and-two-police-officers-wounded-after-gunman-goes-on-rampage-in-north-carolina/ I am sure Henry VIII would be good with mass shootings but his daughter Mary preferred other means in that tit for tat in Bloody(or crispy) Old England. As did the colonists in Salem, Mass. and the KKK in the south in the Jim Crow years. However, none of that is remotely relevant to mass shootings in the 21st Century. I don't think the witches were Catholics were they??? I think black attendance in the south is very high at catholic churches either .... they are more of the Methodist or baptist kind of protestant worshipers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #7 August 9, 2015 kallend just collateral damage in a free country, right? www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/09/houston-police-discover-bodies-of-5-children-3-adults-in-home-after-standoff/ www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/09/boom-boom-boom-two-people-dead-and-two-police-officers-wounded-after-gunman-goes-on-rampage-in-north-carolina/ if you're so bored why post about itIf some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,619 #8 August 9, 2015 skypuppy*** just collateral damage in a free country, right? www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/09/houston-police-discover-bodies-of-5-children-3-adults-in-home-after-standoff/ www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/09/boom-boom-boom-two-people-dead-and-two-police-officers-wounded-after-gunman-goes-on-rampage-in-north-carolina/ if you're so bored why post about it Tired of mass shootings. Unlike some here, I don't consider them to be just collateral by-products of the gun culture.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #9 August 9, 2015 masterblaster72The solution to this recurring problem has been repeated on these forums 100s of times -- more guns for more people. Out of curiosity, how many more guns would that be? Doesn't the US have the highest number of guns per capita on the planet already? Source; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country If THAT isn't enough, then why do other countries with fewer guns have fewer problems?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 619 #10 August 9, 2015 Honesty doesn't appear appear to be your forte. You challenged people for ides while providing none of your own only to then mock the others that did. Fix the background checks for all guns. Fix the lack of the insanity database tied to it as well Yet we will do nothing like always. Ok, start your attack. Again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #11 August 9, 2015 normissFix the background checks for all guns. To be fair, "fix it" isn't a particularly meaningful suggestion. We're not talking about a garage door opener that stopped working. You or rehmwa saying "fix it" doesn't mean anything resembling what quade or mpohl would mean saying the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #12 August 9, 2015 quade ***The solution to this recurring problem has been repeated on these forums 100s of times -- more guns for more people. Out of curiosity, how many more guns would that be? Doesn't the US have the highest number of guns per capita on the planet already? Source; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country If THAT isn't enough, then why do other countries with fewer guns have fewer problems? To be very specific: as many guns for as many people as possible. Only then will mass shootings finally be a thing of the past. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #13 August 9, 2015 normiss... Fix the background checks for all guns. Fix the lack of the insanity database tied to it as well... Agree with background checks for firearms transfers of any kind, including inheritance, gifts, personal transfers, etc.. Didn't used to agree, but do now ...if only as a compromise. However, I do not agree with keeping records of any type regarding b/g checks, including gun "registry", etc. Check background, approve or deny, destroy record. You want another gun, submit to another check. No need to keep these records because ATF will already have a record of any acquisition (already an illegal defacto "registry"). I think I'd be more fearful of an "insanity database" than the current possibility of a chance encounter with a crazy with a gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #14 August 10, 2015 Now two is a mass shooting soon it will be one "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #15 August 10, 2015 rushmc Now two is a mass shooting soon it will be one Depend how much mass you have. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #16 August 10, 2015 rushmc Now two is a mass shooting soon it will be one Ironically, the story you seem to be bitching about comes from one of your favorite news (or at least one you frequently quote here) sources.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #17 August 10, 2015 quade ***Now two is a mass shooting soon it will be one Ironically, the story you seem to be bitching about comes from one of your favorite news (or at least one you frequently quote here) sources. Now i am bitching"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,619 #18 August 10, 2015 rushmc Now two is a mass shooting soon it will be one Having a little trouble with arithmetic today? And now there's another. Great weekend for ammo sales. abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/killed-11-injured-overnight-arkansas-shooting-32980391... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #19 August 10, 2015 The article you referenced from "The Blaze" says he shot 4. One dead, three wounded. I think you were only counting dead folks ...2. But one of the dead guys, the perp, was shot by a few cops, so he doesn't count. So, it looks like "mass shooting" probably begins at 4 shot, maybe 3, but not 2. Misses probably don't count, either, although those are technically "shots". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 619 #20 August 10, 2015 Sorry. You're correct of course. Address it? Clarify it? Require it on all sales? All transfers? We must have a psych flag in the process too. Yes I know this won't stop criminals from obtaining weapons but most of the crazy mass shooting nut bags don't seem to acquire their weapons weapons that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 619 #21 August 10, 2015 Agreed. I understand data mining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #22 August 10, 2015 normissSorry. You're correct of course. Address it? Clarify it? Require it on all sales? All transfers? We must have a psych flag in the process too. Yes I know this won't stop criminals from obtaining weapons but most of the crazy mass shooting nut bags don't seem to acquire their weapons weapons that way. Seems facts are not your forte. 3/4 of the guns obtained by most mass shooters are done legally http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map QuoteWe've gathered detailed data on more than three decades of cases and mapped them below, including information on the shooters' profiles, the types of weapons they used, and the number of victims they injured and killed. The following analysis covers our original dataset comprised of 62 cases from 1982-2012. Weapons: Of the 143 guns possessed by the killers, more than three quarters were obtained legally. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #23 August 10, 2015 Mass shootings are rare http://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44126.pdf QuoteThe study, “Mass Murder with Firearms: Incidents and Victims, 1999-2013,” defines a “mass shooting” as “a multiple homicide incident in which four or more victims are murdered with firearms, within one event, in one or more locations in close proximity.” Because the underlying circumstances of mass shootings vary widely, the study categorizes such crimes as family-related, felony-related (e.g., robberies and gang shootouts), and those taking place in public locations, such as schools, restaurants and houses of worship. By CRS’ count, 71 percent of mass shootings and 79 percent of their fatal victims over the 15-year period 1999-2013 were family- or felony-related. Public incidents, while accounting for the vast majority of mass shootings covered by the news media, accounted for only 21 percent of such incidents and 29 percent of their victims. https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150807/mass-shootings-rare-government-study-says"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #24 August 10, 2015 QuoteI think I'd be more fearful of an "insanity database" than the current possibility of a chance encounter with a crazy with a gun. I am quoting this. Because I agree My wife is hotter than your wife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,619 #25 August 10, 2015 rushmcMass shootings are rare http://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44126.pdf QuoteThe study, “Mass Murder with Firearms: Incidents and Victims, 1999-2013,” defines a “mass shooting” as “a multiple homicide incident in which four or more victims are murdered with firearms, within one event, in one or more locations in close proximity.” Because the underlying circumstances of mass shootings vary widely, the study categorizes such crimes as family-related, felony-related (e.g., robberies and gang shootouts), and those taking place in public locations, such as schools, restaurants and houses of worship. By CRS’ count, 71 percent of mass shootings and 79 percent of their fatal victims over the 15-year period 1999-2013 were family- or felony-related. Public incidents, while accounting for the vast majority of mass shootings covered by the news media, accounted for only 21 percent of such incidents and 29 percent of their victims. https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150807/mass-shootings-rare-government-study-says Well, if you exclude from "mass SHOOTINGS" all shootings that don't result in murder, then you are deluding yourself and your readers. Apparently shootings that only result in serious injury aren't shootings at all according to the NRA. (You did notice, I'm sure, that the NRA conveniently re-worded the report from "mass murder" to "mass shootings" while pretending that the data were the exact same thing.)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
