kallend 1,922 #726 December 3, 2015 headoverheels*** Does this make Marc an accessory before the fact? I don't think Dear reads DZ. Poor Dear. Only 5 days and already he's been overshadowed.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,877 #727 December 3, 2015 >Somehow it must be Obama's fault. No doubt. But he was apparently ranting about Obama too; he'd fit right in here. ================= Former wife says Planned Parenthood terrorist is conservative, religious and anti-abortion Agence France-Presse 30 Nov 2015 at 09:09 ET People who knew the suspected gunman in the Colorado Springs shooting described him as a loner who was “weird” but had given few signs of violent behavior, US media reported Sunday. Robert Lewis Dear, 57, is believed to have entered the Planned Parenthood clinic with a high-powered rifle on Friday and fire on police and civilians outside the building. Dear allegedly shot and killed three people, including a police officer, and wounded five others, Colorado officials said. The motive for the rampage however is unclear. When questioned after his arrest Dear mentioned “no more baby parts” in reference to the abortions Planned Parenthood provides, NBC News reported, citing law enforcement officials. In his rambling interview Dear also mentioned President Barack Obama. . . In 1997, Dear’s then wife, Pamela Ross, once called the police to accuse him of domestic violence, The New York Times reported. Ross said that Dear could have flashes of anger, but usually he would later apologize. Dear was politically conservative, religious, owned guns and believed that abortion was wrong — but he was not obsessed with any of these issues, Ross said. “It never, ever, ever, ever crossed my mind” that he would be capable of a mass shooting, Ross told The Times. “My heart just fell to my stomach.” ====================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #728 December 5, 2015 kallendPoor Dear. Only 5 days and already he's been overshadowed. Poor Kallend. His christian bash fest was crashed by a couple Jihadis.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 750 #729 December 5, 2015 They are exactly the same. Your refusal to accept that says a lot about "believers". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #730 December 5, 2015 what does it say then?Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,922 #731 December 5, 2015 Coreeece***Poor Dear. Only 5 days and already he's been overshadowed. Poor Kallend. His christian bash fest was crashed by a couple Jihadis. I find nothing to differentiate between one hallucinating individuals's imaginary friend and another's.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 750 #732 December 5, 2015 John just said it as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #733 December 5, 2015 normiss John just said it as well. No, YOU said that my refusal says a lot - but either you lack the ability to articulate it, or you were just talking through your ass again.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 750 #734 December 5, 2015 Well, we both pretty much said the same thing...so....ok. Why is your imaginary friend ok but theirs isn't? Why do all imaginary friends glorify death as the single most important part of their following??? Let's ALL celebrate death! WTF is wrong with this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #735 December 5, 2015 lol, wtf are you talking about?Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,922 #736 December 5, 2015 Coreeecelol, wtf are you talking about? The SYMBOL of Christianity is an instrument of torture and execution. You'll find it in every church, and hanging around lots of people's necks.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #737 December 5, 2015 kallend *** ***Well, we both pretty much said the same thing...so....ok. Why is your imaginary friend ok but theirs isn't? Why do all imaginary friends glorify death as the single most important part of their following??? Let's ALL celebrate death! WTF is wrong with this? lol, wtf are you talking about? The SYMBOL of Christianity is an instrument of torture and execution. You'll find it in every church, and hanging around lots of people's necks. Big deal, Normiss rides with the Hells Angels and the Outlaws. Their SYMBOL is a human head where the flesh has rotted away. You'll find it in everyone of their clubs and injected into a lot of people's skin. What's his obsession with glorifying and celebrating death? At least a cross is a symbol of dying for a loved one. John 15:13 "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends” I still don't know what any of this has to do with my original post tho - Perhaps you should just let Normiss speak for himself, eh?Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 750 #738 December 5, 2015 Have ridden, not riding with. No celebration of death, that's for the religious folks. That ain't me. What this all has to do with, is the twisted ways that religion fucks the world up. It's nothing but hate. I'll never understand how some think their non-existent being is better than the other non-existent being. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #739 December 5, 2015 normiss***I still don't know what any of this has to do with my original post tho - Perhaps you should just let Normiss speak for himself, eh? What this all has to do with, is the twisted ways that religion fucks the world up. It's nothing but hate. Again, what does that have to do with me and my post - and the only hate I'm seeing right now is coming from you and John.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,922 #740 December 5, 2015 Coreeece "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends” QED, an obsession with death. It forms the centerpiece of your religion. Can you name another religion that has chosen a torture or execution instrument for its symbol? The rack, maybe, or a gallows, electric chair or guillotine over the altar.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 750 #741 December 5, 2015 I don't see either one of us ever discussing how glorious death is. Only religion sees it as a reward or celebration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #742 December 5, 2015 kallend*** "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends” QED, an obsession with death. It forms the centerpiece of your religion. That's just your twisted, biased perspective - a double standard. When somebody risks their own life to save someone else, even secular society calls them a hero.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,922 #743 December 5, 2015 Coreeece****** "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends” QED, an obsession with death. It forms the centerpiece of your religion. That's just your twisted, biased perspective - a double standard. When somebody risks their own life to save someone else, even secular society calls them a hero. That is TOTALLY different from basing an entire religion on the death of an individual and using the execution instrument as your symbol.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #744 December 5, 2015 kallend********* "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends” QED, an obsession with death. It forms the centerpiece of your religion. That's just your twisted, biased perspective - a double standard. When somebody risks their own life to save someone else, even secular society calls them a hero. That is TOTALLY different from basing an entire religion on the death of an individual and using the execution instrument as your symbol. Then for you, I'd recommend the fish.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,922 #745 December 5, 2015 Coreeece************ "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends” QED, an obsession with death. It forms the centerpiece of your religion. That's just your twisted, biased perspective - a double standard. When somebody risks their own life to save someone else, even secular society calls them a hero. That is TOTALLY different from basing an entire religion on the death of an individual and using the execution instrument as your symbol. Then for you, I'd recommend the fish. I've been in many, many Christian churches, abbeys, cathedrals and chapels and have yet to see one without a cross on or above the altar. I've never seen one with a fish above the altar. However, I am quite partial to salmon and trout.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #746 December 5, 2015 kallend*************** "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends” QED, an obsession with death. It forms the centerpiece of your religion. That's just your twisted, biased perspective - a double standard. When somebody risks their own life to save someone else, even secular society calls them a hero. That is TOTALLY different from basing an entire religion on the death of an individual and using the execution instrument as your symbol. Then for you, I'd recommend the fish. I've been in many, many Christian churches, abbeys, cathedrals and chapels and have yet to see one without a cross on or above the altar. I've never seen one with a fish above the altar. However, I am quite partial to salmon and trout. I believe the fish was the symbol prior to Constantine's militant hijacking of the faith. Personally, I find crucifixes more offensive and I reject the concept behind having an altar. I think your beef has more to do with Catholicism then biblical Christianity.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,922 #747 December 5, 2015 Coreeece****************** "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends” QED, an obsession with death. It forms the centerpiece of your religion. That's just your twisted, biased perspective - a double standard. When somebody risks their own life to save someone else, even secular society calls them a hero. That is TOTALLY different from basing an entire religion on the death of an individual and using the execution instrument as your symbol. Then for you, I'd recommend the fish. I've been in many, many Christian churches, abbeys, cathedrals and chapels and have yet to see one without a cross on or above the altar. I've never seen one with a fish above the altar. However, I am quite partial to salmon and trout. I believe the fish was the symbol prior to Constantine's militant hijacking of the faith. Personally, I find crucifixes more offensive and I reject the concept behind having an altar. I think your beef has more to do with Catholicism then biblical Christianity. Orthodox and protestant denominations use crucifixes too. Not just RC.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #748 December 5, 2015 kallend********* "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends” QED, an obsession with death. It forms the centerpiece of your religion. That's just your twisted, biased perspective - a double standard. When somebody risks their own life to save someone else, even secular society calls them a hero. That is TOTALLY different from basing an entire religion on the death of an individual and using the execution instrument as your symbol. You need to read up a bit. The religion is based on his being the messiah, and the work he did for the masses.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,922 #749 December 5, 2015 turtlespeed************ "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends” QED, an obsession with death. It forms the centerpiece of your religion. That's just your twisted, biased perspective - a double standard. When somebody risks their own life to save someone else, even secular society calls them a hero. That is TOTALLY different from basing an entire religion on the death of an individual and using the execution instrument as your symbol. You need to read up a bit. The religion is based on his being the messiah, and the work he did for the masses. I had compulsory Bible study from age 4 to age 18. You may recall that the most important Christian feast is Easter. Something to do with being executed.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 750 #750 December 5, 2015 Followed by disappearing, or being stolen, not sure which. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites