JerryBaumchen 1,048 #51 July 29, 2015 Hi Wendy, I am 'responding' to you, not to argue, but because I think we are of the same thinking. Quoteabout organ donation One of our own: Dan Poynter http://www.amazon.com/Dan-Poynters-Transplant-Handbook-Patients-ebook/dp/B00GEKQWNE ' Written from a patient’s point of view . . .' He is alive only because of stem cell research. If anyone wants to read more, get Googling. rushmc doesn't like abortions; OK. But the Supreme Court made it legal; end of discussion. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #52 July 29, 2015 I doubt it but perhaps some might get something out of this... http://www.salon.com/2015/07/28/abortion_myths_partner/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #53 July 29, 2015 JerryBaumchen Hi rush, Quote Planned Parenthood has more than crossed the line IMO And that is all it is; an opinion. Mine is substantially different than yours. Have a good day, Jerry Baumchen So, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? What's next, under aged teens getting pregnant so they can get a government check for their unborn child? Well, I guess that does make sense, Miss Me jeans are pretty expensive.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #54 July 29, 2015 turtlespeed ***Hi rush, Quote Planned Parenthood has more than crossed the line IMO And that is all it is; an opinion. Mine is substantially different than yours. Have a good day, Jerry Baumchen So, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? What's next, under aged teens getting pregnant so they can get a government check for their unborn child? Well, I guess that does make sense, Miss Me jeans are pretty expensive.You might have a point if you were as vociferous in your disdain for CORPORATE and VERY RICH Farmers WELFARE and not your obvious disdain for what you perceive as welfare queens... the real welfare queens are corporations... especially those that build billion dollar weapons systems that the services do not want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #55 July 29, 2015 QuoteSo, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? You know there is no auction, and you know that PP only charges a cost recovery fee for handling the research material. PP did not go looking for sales. These agents of deception came to them and lied about being researchers in need of the tissue. Why are you trying to make it sound like something it is not? Do you perhaps have a problem with a different aspect of this story?Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #56 July 29, 2015 Amazon ******Hi rush, Quote Planned Parenthood has more than crossed the line IMO And that is all it is; an opinion. Mine is substantially different than yours. Have a good day, Jerry Baumchen So, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? What's next, under aged teens getting pregnant so they can get a government check for their unborn child? Well, I guess that does make sense, Miss Me jeans are pretty expensive.You might have a point if you were as vociferous in your disdain for CORPORATE and VERY RICH Farmers WELFARE and not your obvious disdain for what you perceive as welfare queens... the real welfare queens are corporations... especially those that build billion dollar weapons systems that the services do not want.Stay on target there cupcake, I don't equat corporate welfare to killing of innocent children for money. Yeah yeah, you'll come back with something about the latest wars, so I'll insert " on US soil", as if killing the kids should ever be acceptable for profit.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #57 July 29, 2015 gowlerkQuoteSo, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? You know there is no auction, and you know that PP only charges a cost recovery fee for handling the research material. PP did not go looking for sales. These agents of deception came to them and lied about being researchers in need of the tissue. Why are you trying to make it sound like something it is not? Do you perhaps have a problem with a different aspect of this story? I'm not sure you understand the story and are not using your best judgement on decifering the meanings behind what you have watched, if you did, in fact watch the entire unedited version.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #58 July 29, 2015 Who's "killing kids"? WTH are you on about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #59 July 29, 2015 turtlespeed***QuoteSo, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? You know there is no auction, and you know that PP only charges a cost recovery fee for handling the research material. PP did not go looking for sales. These agents of deception came to them and lied about being researchers in need of the tissue. Why are you trying to make it sound like something it is not? Do you perhaps have a problem with a different aspect of this story? I'm not sure you understand the story and are not using your best judgement on decifering the meanings behind what you have watched, if you did, in fact watch the entire unedited version. So then, in which part of the video is the auction, or the highest bidder discussed?The video shows medical professionals discussing things they do in their jobs in rather coarse terms. It doesn't show any move to auction parts to the highest bidder. You are making that up.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #60 July 29, 2015 normiss Who's "killing kids"? WTH are you on about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8fheDIG_RA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #61 July 29, 2015 gowlerk******QuoteSo, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? You know there is no auction, and you know that PP only charges a cost recovery fee for handling the research material. PP did not go looking for sales. These agents of deception came to them and lied about being researchers in need of the tissue. Why are you trying to make it sound like something it is not? Do you perhaps have a problem with a different aspect of this story? I'm not sure you understand the story and are not using your best judgement on decifering the meanings behind what you have watched, if you did, in fact watch the entire unedited version. So then, in which part of the video is the auction, or the highest bidder discussed?The video shows medical professionals discussing things they do in their jobs in rather coarse terms. It doesn't show any move to auction parts to the highest bidder. You are making that up. Title of the article, did you find it to be untrue? QuotePLANNED PARENTHOOD INVESTIGATION REPORTEDLY SHOWS DOCTORS DISCUSSING HOW TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE FROM SALE OF FETAL TISSUE *GRAPHIC FOOTAGE*I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #62 July 29, 2015 turtlespeed*********QuoteSo, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? You know there is no auction, and you know that PP only charges a cost recovery fee for handling the research material. PP did not go looking for sales. These agents of deception came to them and lied about being researchers in need of the tissue. Why are you trying to make it sound like something it is not? Do you perhaps have a problem with a different aspect of this story? I'm not sure you understand the story and are not using your best judgement on decifering the meanings behind what you have watched, if you did, in fact watch the entire unedited version. So then, in which part of the video is the auction, or the highest bidder discussed?The video shows medical professionals discussing things they do in their jobs in rather coarse terms. It doesn't show any move to auction parts to the highest bidder. You are making that up. Title of the article, did you find it to be untrue? QuotePLANNED PARENTHOOD INVESTIGATION REPORTEDLY SHOWS DOCTORS DISCUSSING HOW TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE FROM SALE OF FETAL TISSUE *GRAPHIC FOOTAGE* So.... You believe in propaganda usage.. if it agree's with your world view... and the truth is suspect... based on the lying POS who was doing everything he could to illicit something he could use.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #63 July 29, 2015 Amazon************QuoteSo, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? You know there is no auction, and you know that PP only charges a cost recovery fee for handling the research material. PP did not go looking for sales. These agents of deception came to them and lied about being researchers in need of the tissue. Why are you trying to make it sound like something it is not? Do you perhaps have a problem with a different aspect of this story? I'm not sure you understand the story and are not using your best judgement on decifering the meanings behind what you have watched, if you did, in fact watch the entire unedited version. So then, in which part of the video is the auction, or the highest bidder discussed?The video shows medical professionals discussing things they do in their jobs in rather coarse terms. It doesn't show any move to auction parts to the highest bidder. You are making that up. Title of the article, did you find it to be untrue? QuotePLANNED PARENTHOOD INVESTIGATION REPORTEDLY SHOWS DOCTORS DISCUSSING HOW TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE FROM SALE OF FETAL TISSUE *GRAPHIC FOOTAGE* So.... You believe in propaganda usage.. if it agree's with your world view... and the truth is suspect... based on the lying POS who was doing everything he could to illicit something he could use.... Like your hero, Michael Moore does?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #64 July 29, 2015 turtlespeed***************QuoteSo, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? You know there is no auction, and you know that PP only charges a cost recovery fee for handling the research material. PP did not go looking for sales. These agents of deception came to them and lied about being researchers in need of the tissue. Why are you trying to make it sound like something it is not? Do you perhaps have a problem with a different aspect of this story? I'm not sure you understand the story and are not using your best judgement on decifering the meanings behind what you have watched, if you did, in fact watch the entire unedited version. So then, in which part of the video is the auction, or the highest bidder discussed?The video shows medical professionals discussing things they do in their jobs in rather coarse terms. It doesn't show any move to auction parts to the highest bidder. You are making that up. Title of the article, did you find it to be untrue? QuotePLANNED PARENTHOOD INVESTIGATION REPORTEDLY SHOWS DOCTORS DISCUSSING HOW TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE FROM SALE OF FETAL TISSUE *GRAPHIC FOOTAGE* So.... You believe in propaganda usage.. if it agree's with your world view... and the truth is suspect... based on the lying POS who was doing everything he could to illicit something he could use.... Like your hero, Michael Moore does? Not my hero.. but in your world view I guess you believe that kind of tripe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #65 July 29, 2015 Amazon******************QuoteSo, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? You know there is no auction, and you know that PP only charges a cost recovery fee for handling the research material. PP did not go looking for sales. These agents of deception came to them and lied about being researchers in need of the tissue. Why are you trying to make it sound like something it is not? Do you perhaps have a problem with a different aspect of this story? I'm not sure you understand the story and are not using your best judgement on decifering the meanings behind what you have watched, if you did, in fact watch the entire unedited version. So then, in which part of the video is the auction, or the highest bidder discussed?The video shows medical professionals discussing things they do in their jobs in rather coarse terms. It doesn't show any move to auction parts to the highest bidder. You are making that up. Title of the article, did you find it to be untrue? QuotePLANNED PARENTHOOD INVESTIGATION REPORTEDLY SHOWS DOCTORS DISCUSSING HOW TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE FROM SALE OF FETAL TISSUE *GRAPHIC FOOTAGE* So.... You believe in propaganda usage.. if it agree's with your world view... and the truth is suspect... based on the lying POS who was doing everything he could to illicit something he could use.... Like your hero, Michael Moore does? Not my hero.. but in your world view I guess you believe that kind of tripe. Are you saying you never once touted his works?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,398 #66 July 29, 2015 >So, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? No. But using that tissue to save another child's life, instead of throwing it out, seems like a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #67 July 29, 2015 normiss Who's "killing kids"? WTH are you on about? I would call late third term abortions murder You?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #68 July 29, 2015 billvon>So, you agree with the highest bidder pitch and marketing for fetus or zygote tissue? No. But using that tissue to save another child's life, instead of throwing it out, seems like a good idea. As long as a profit is involved and a baby is not born all is good"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,398 #69 July 29, 2015 >As long as a profit is involved and a baby is not born all is good No, those aren't the issue. The abortion is going to happen anyway, and as others have pointed out, the profit is not the issue. What does matter is that other children are helped, rather than just throwing the fetus away. Why is it important to you to let those organs rot? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #70 July 29, 2015 billvon >As long as a profit is involved and a baby is not born all is good No, those aren't the issue. The abortion is going to happen anyway, and as others have pointed out, the profit is not the issue. What does matter is that other children are helped, rather than just throwing the fetus away. Why is it important to you to let those organs rot? I do not buy that an abortion is gong to happen anyway And you got the Hillary Clinton line down too "At this point, what does it matter?""America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,398 #71 July 29, 2015 >I do not buy that an abortion is gong to happen anyway Ah. So you believe that clinics are coercing women into having abortions to sell their fetal parts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #72 July 29, 2015 billvon>I do not buy that an abortion is gong to happen anyway Ah. So you believe that clinics are coercing women into having abortions to sell their fetal parts? No. But they make is free a easy using gov money. But let me use your logic in another example. People are going to die anyway. Electricity is known to save lives. So we should not limit electrical out put of a plant for environmental reasons because are going to die anyway"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #73 July 29, 2015 Hi rush, QuoteI would call late third term abortions murder You call it chicken salad for all I care. I'm just glad that it is legal. Jerry Baumchen PS) Another, 'I'm taking my ball & going home.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #74 July 29, 2015 JerryBaumchenHi rush, QuoteI would call late third term abortions murder You call it chicken salad for all I care. I'm just glad that it is legal. Jerry Baumchen PS) Another, 'I'm taking my ball & going home.' Not surprised. On either count"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #75 July 29, 2015 rushmc***Hi rush, QuoteI would call late third term abortions murder You call it chicken salad for all I care. I'm just glad that it is legal. Jerry Baumchen PS) Another, 'I'm taking my ball & going home.' Not surprised. On either count If third term abortions are murder, so are all abortions. If abortion is murder, why would anyone allow exceptions at all? I'm with Jerry. If it's not your womb it's not your business.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites