rushmc 18 #1 July 28, 2015 I have made my views on abortion very very clear on this site. So how far is far enough? Planned Parenthood has more than crossed the line IMO You have been warned http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/28/planned-parenthood-investigation-reportedly-shows-doctors-discussing-how-to-maximize-revenue-from-sale-of-fetal-tissue-graphic-footage/ Not the only place this story exists Oh Dont use the edited tape argument The full lenghth videos are posted and available 3 have been shared Up to 9 more coming supposedly Planned Parenthood has filed suit to stop the release of anymore it is rumored. No tax dollars should be going to this group Period! From the link QuoteThe new video also shows undercover footage of Dr. Savita Ginde, vice president and medical director of Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains, who operates abortion clinics in Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming, and Nevada. She was secretly videotaped in the Planned Parenthood pathology lab, where babies are taken after being aborted. She also talks about making money for body parts: “I think a per-item thing works a little better, just because we can see how much we can get out of it.” "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #2 July 28, 2015 People will do weird shit for money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #3 July 28, 2015 Hi rush, QuotePlanned Parenthood has more than crossed the line IMO And that is all it is; an opinion. Mine is substantially different than yours. Have a good day, Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #4 July 28, 2015 JerryBaumchen Hi rush, Quote Planned Parenthood has more than crossed the line IMO And that is all it is; an opinion. Mine is substantially different than yours. Have a good day, Jerry Baumchen So selling baby parts is ok with you Ahhhhhh Ok"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #5 July 28, 2015 rushmc ***Hi rush, Quote Planned Parenthood has more than crossed the line IMO And that is all it is; an opinion. Mine is substantially different than yours. Have a good day, Jerry Baumchen So selling baby parts is ok with you Ahhhhhh OkWhich is a violation of federal law too. Now the trick is to find the proof.There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #6 July 28, 2015 I could not watch the vids Made me sick "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #7 July 28, 2015 rushmc ***Hi rush, Quote Planned Parenthood has more than crossed the line IMO And that is all it is; an opinion. Mine is substantially different than yours. Have a good day, Jerry Baumchen So selling baby parts is ok with you Ahhhhhh OkDoesn't appear to be illegal. You can't profit from the body parts, but midnight TV always tells me shipping and handling is extra. Never mind that Jerry never said he was ok with it, just another strawman from rushmc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #8 July 28, 2015 SkyDekker ******Hi rush, Quote Planned Parenthood has more than crossed the line IMO And that is all it is; an opinion. Mine is substantially different than yours. Have a good day, Jerry Baumchen So selling baby parts is ok with you Ahhhhhh OkDoesn't appear to be illegal. You can't profit from the body parts, but midnight TV always tells me shipping and handling is extra. Never mind that Jerry never said he was ok with it, just another strawman from rushmc. Jerry is the one that set it up They can sell at cost Any profit made makes it illegal But this is way deeper than just the money It is a bunch of sick depraved people altering abortion processes to preserve ORGANS! (I thought all abortions just remove unviable tissue) to sell! I wonder how much cash the one lady has put away toward her desired Lamborghini?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #9 July 28, 2015 QuoteIt is a bunch of sick depraved people altering abortion processes to preserve ORGANS! (I thought all abortions just remove unviable tissue) to sell! Yup, just like when somebody croaks they discuss how best to preserve the organs for donation. Since the aborted tissue is not viable, it can be traded for research. I am a little confused though. You tend to rant a rave about how the government should be run as a business. Now this process is being run as a business and you are all bent out of shape. Let me guess, you want to make sure legislation is passed to ensure this is completely illegal and no longer in a grey zone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #10 July 28, 2015 SkyDekkerQuoteIt is a bunch of sick depraved people altering abortion processes to preserve ORGANS! (I thought all abortions just remove unviable tissue) to sell! Yup, just like when somebody croaks they discuss how best to preserve the organs for donation. Since the aborted tissue is not viable, it can be traded for research. I am a little confused though. You tend to rant a rave about how the government should be run as a business. Now this process is being run as a business and you are all bent out of shape. Let me guess, you want to make sure legislation is passed to ensure this is completely illegal and no longer in a grey zone? Your attempt at mind reading fails you as per usual You should really give up trying as you consistently are wrong But this is your attempt at diversion, I know I know The only thing I want? Enforce the federal law against making profit selling baby parts and No federal tax dollars for Planned Parenthood Very simple oh misguided one"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #11 July 28, 2015 Meh, I don't care if they use my tax dollars. I just want them to get rid of the damn hippies with clipboards trying to get me to donate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #12 July 28, 2015 QuoteEnforce the federal law against making profit selling baby parts and How do you know they are making a profit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #13 July 28, 2015 I'm still trying to understand the "slippery slope" part of the title too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #14 July 28, 2015 SkyDekkerQuoteEnforce the federal law against making profit selling baby parts and How do you know they are making a profit? They've been caught on camera detailing how they do things. Now they're suing to block the release of the other videos. So clearly, they're trying to save face and are in damage control. The trick now will be proving they are in fact violating the law. Won't be easy.There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #15 July 28, 2015 Driver1***QuoteEnforce the federal law against making profit selling baby parts and How do you know they are making a profit? They've been caught on camera detailing how they do things. Now they're suing to block the release of the other videos. So clearly, they're trying to save face and are in damage control. The trick now will be proving they are in fact violating the law. Won't be easy. They have admitted they are selling them. Other companies buy them and sell them to research facilities. This has all been admitted by various people. How do you know Planned Parenthood is making a profit and therefor doing something illegal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,905 #16 July 28, 2015 QuoteSo selling baby parts is ok with you Human tissue is used in research all the time. You and your kind are merely trying to spin an ordinary non issue to try and make it support your narrow moral beliefs. I support your right to your beliefs, but there is no smoke, let alone fire here. So to answer you question, yes, it is OK to provide fetal tissue to genuine researchers on a cost recovery basis. Legal too.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #17 July 28, 2015 normiss I'm still trying to understand the "slippery slope" part of the title too. Abortion is ok, whats next? Oh Selling baby organs for profit Now that is one hell of business to be in dont you think? Again I want FEDERAL money out of it Period"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #18 July 28, 2015 They sell to over 70 companies, and DO make a profit some years which they reinvest. They have been quoted as calling them reserves and not profit, but an opinion on them came back saying excess revenue minus expenses is the very definition of profit. I am with you I do not see why they need government funding. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #19 July 28, 2015 gowlerk Quote So selling baby parts is ok with you Human tissue is used in research all the time. You and your kind are merely trying to spin an ordinary non issue to try and make it support your narrow moral beliefs. I support your right to your beliefs, but there is no smoke, let alone fire here. So to answer you question, yes, it is OK to provide fetal tissue to genuine researchers on a cost recovery basis. Legal too. My kind?Fucking funny shit dude! Anyway I know about tissue and research so your high horse failed you As for my narrow moral beliefs? Damn right I am entitled to them But the videos show for profits dealings So now, "you and your kind" will try and spin this to support your wide open moral beliefs And yes, you are entitled to your beliefs up until the point babies are murdered for profit!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,395 #20 July 28, 2015 >Abortion is ok, whats next? Living wills Euthanasia Cures for cancer, Alzheimer's and spinal cord injury for starters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 125 #21 July 28, 2015 QuoteThey can sell at cost Any profit made makes it illegal And that is exactly what they did. they sold at cost and made no profit.....THEREFORE....making it legal. QuoteIt is a bunch of sick depraved people.... I think there is a small segment of the US military that are sick and depraved people. perhaps we should defund the entire US military for the same logic no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #22 July 28, 2015 tkhayes I think there is a small segment of the US military that are sick and depraved people. perhaps we should defund the entire US military for the same logic no? Are they selling baby parts?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #23 July 28, 2015 I'd add open access to all available women's health facilities and procedures. Not defined or limited by men with religious beliefs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #24 July 28, 2015 rushmc*** I think there is a small segment of the US military that are sick and depraved people. perhaps we should defund the entire US military for the same logic no? Are they selling baby parts? Considering an aborted fetus is not a baby, neither is Planned Parenthood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #25 July 28, 2015 It's called "tissue". You ever read the forms when you sign off on a chunk of your body for testing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
