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There is no fix for the easy access to guns that exists in America.



There is a fix. There just isn't an easy or palatable fix.


There's a fix to get illegal guns away from criminals? :o


Spaying and Neutering????

And declawing....I'm trying to come up with a joke about "hand"guns and not having hands, but I'm coming up empty handed.

The Second Amendment only guarantees "the right to bear arms", says nothing about the right to hands...

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So your saying there are different types of background check systems? That a CCW system would have caught that guy and the federal one to purchase a gun wouldn't have? Isn't that my point about a single all encompassing go to system where all info is?

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Why would you support illegal gun ownership?



Why do you ask these childish questions phrased to insinuate the beliefs of a person?

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normiss

There IS a system in place, a lack of response should never default in the issuing of a weapon.
:S
Defending the issuing of weapons without a completed background check, is in fact, defending the illegal purchase of weapons.
:S




.....ok whatever you wish to think...:S

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normiss

There IS a system in place, a lack of response should never default in the issuing of a weapon.
:S
Defending the issuing of weapons without a completed background check, is in fact, defending the illegal purchase of weapons.
:S



There is no reason there should be a background check to begin with
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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normiss

There IS a system in place, a lack of response should never default in the issuing of a weapon.
:S
Defending the issuing of weapons without a completed background check, is in fact, defending the illegal purchase of weapons.
:S



There is no reason there should be a background check to begin with
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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billvon

>There is no reason there should be a background check to begin with

Do you think it's a good idea to sell guns to convicted murderers?




I was so not going to voice how that statement was so far right of center that it just made me shake my head with a huge WTF:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S


I bet all those crazies in ultra conservative militias would love that... and get rid of all gun control measures from just after WW I so any one could get whatever they wanted just like the good old days

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billvon

>There is no reason there should be a background check to begin with

Do you think it's a good idea to sell guns to convicted murderers?



I think some in this forum should have background checks before they can post

And to your question. They will get guns regardless. They dont follow laws
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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normiss

Those "multi-billion dollar systems" are already in place.
It's required to get a clean result to obtain a CCW, why not extend that to all purchases?
Why would you support illegal gun ownership?



Maine just went permitless conceal carry. More states headed that way
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

***>There is no reason there should be a background check to begin with

Do you think it's a good idea to sell guns to convicted murderers?



I think some in this forum should have background checks before they can post

And to your question. They will get guns regardless. They dont follow lawsSome people still drive drunk. Therefore, we should do away with DUI laws?
Some people commit murder. Therefore, we should not bother to outlaw murder?

Perhaps we should only have laws against things nobody ever does. :S

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GeorgiaDon

******>There is no reason there should be a background check to begin with

Do you think it's a good idea to sell guns to convicted murderers?



I think some in this forum should have background checks before they can post

And to your question. They will get regardless. They dont follow lawsSome people still drive drunk. Therefore, we should do away with DUI laws?
Some people commit murder. Therefore, we should not bother to outlaw murder?

Perhaps we should only have laws against things nobody ever does. :S

Don

Lol

it has been admitted that none of the shootings, Sandy Hook, Aurora, Lafayette theater, none of them, would have been stopped or prevented by any of the laws that you guys are pushing here. The only people are affected, are the law abiding. So your straw man is debunked. And you don't know what you're talking about again
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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GeorgiaDon

******>There is no reason there should be a background check to begin with

Do you think it's a good idea to sell guns to convicted murderers?



I think some in this forum should have background checks before they can post

And to your question. They will get guns regardless. They dont follow lawsSome people still drive drunk. Therefore, we should do away with DUI laws?
Some people commit murder. Therefore, we should not bother to outlaw murder?

Perhaps we should only have laws against things nobody ever does. :S

Don

You mean like illegal immigration?

Cuz . . . They enforce that one as much as they wish guns were controlled, don't they?
I know what the next argument is, and you don't need to try it. People are injured and killed by illegal immigrants every day too. One is too many, think of the children.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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rushmc

*********>There is no reason there should be a background check to begin with

Do you think it's a good idea to sell guns to convicted murderers?



I think some in this forum should have background checks before they can post

And to your question. They will get regardless. They dont follow lawsSome people still drive drunk. Therefore, we should do away with DUI laws?
Some people commit murder. Therefore, we should not bother to outlaw murder?

Perhaps we should only have laws against things nobody ever does. :S

Don

Lol

it has been admitted that none of the shootings, Sandy Hook, Aurora, Lafayette theater, none of them, would have been stopped or prevented by any of the laws that you guys are pushing here. The only people are affected, are the law abiding. So your straw man is debunked. And you don't know what you're talking about again

That is only because the existing laws are totally toothless, on account of people like YOU.

And you STILL are using the term "straw man" incorrectly.
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kallend

************>There is no reason there should be a background check to begin with

Do you think it's a good idea to sell guns to convicted murderers?



I think some in this forum should have background checks before they can post

And to your question. They will get regardless. They dont follow lawsSome people still drive drunk. Therefore, we should do away with DUI laws?
Some people commit murder. Therefore, we should not bother to outlaw murder?

Perhaps we should only have laws against things nobody ever does. :S

Don

Lol

it has been admitted that none of the shootings, Sandy Hook, Aurora, Lafayette theater, none of them, would have been stopped or prevented by any of the laws that you guys are pushing here. The only people are affected, are the law abiding. So your straw man is debunked. And you don't know what you're talking about again

That is only because the existing laws are totally toothless, on account of people like YOU.

And you STILL are using the term "straw man" incorrectly.[/quote
Says Mr gun banner himself
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Saying something repeatedly doesn't make it true. I've never heard Kallend talking about banning guns. He's opinionated and pointed in his disagreements, but that doesnt change what he actually says

Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Saying something repeatedly doesn't make it true. I've never heard Kallend talking about banning guns. He's opinionated and pointed in his disagreements, but that doesnt change what he actually says

Wendy P.


Scary isn't it when I find myself agreeing with you and john more and more . . . :o
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wmw999

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gun banner

Saying something repeatedly doesn't make it true. I've never heard Kallend talking about banning guns. He's opinionated and pointed in his disagreements, but that doesnt change what he actually says

Wendy P.


He never says anything directly. You know that. But one time he stated his so called solutions

Ya. He is a gun banner

I did not say it. He did
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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wmw999

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gun banner

Saying something repeatedly doesn't make it true. I've never heard Kallend talking about banning guns. He's opinionated and pointed in his disagreements, but that doesnt change what he actually says

Wendy P.



BTW Wendy
If you still do not believe me, ask kallend.

Ask him what specific actions he thinks should be put into place
My bet? He will not answer you
(uless he does it in a private message)

He did once here years ago. And he got jumped when it became very clear that the actions he proposed would be a ban by defautl

So did he ever directly call for a ban? No

But in the end that is what he proposes (backdoor)
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

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gun banner

Saying something repeatedly doesn't make it true. I've never heard Kallend talking about banning guns. He's opinionated and pointed in his disagreements, but that doesnt change what he actually says

Wendy P.


He never says anything directly. You know that. But one time he stated his so called solutions

Ya. He is a gun banner

I did not say it. He did

And you apparently support guns for criminals and nutters with that no background checks idiocy. I think all responsible gun owners think that some people in this society have lost their right to own weapons by their actions and anti-social behavior.

Personally I don't want criminals to have weapons.... if they use a weapon in the commission of a crime is a good reason to be locked away for life in the deepest darkest hole that the federal prison system has.

We have a severly screwed up "justice system" that put low level dope smokers in jail for extended sentences... while violent criminals walk daily.

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