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jgoose71

***Hi Anvil,

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I think you are lying.



That is absolutely uncalled for.

I would have expected better of you.

Shame.

Jerry Baumchen


Hey Jerry,

You have to understand what Kallend is saying hear:

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Fortunately I live and work on the south side of Chicago, so I have no such problems.



You see Kallend is a rich 1%er college professor hidden away in his university's ivory tower where he can be filtered from such riffraff.

Also, his extremely large paycheck that is given to him by his students that are running up hundreds of thousands of dollars in student debt allow him to live in a neighbor hood free of "those people.":ph34r::ph34r:



Actually our students are in the top tier for "return on investment" in their education.

Your statements, based in total ignorance of the situation, are just pathetic.

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***No victimhood for me in 37 years here. Maybe you need to move somewhere safer than Baton Rouge.



Because everyone can afford to live where he does....:ph34r:

Yep, the south side is such an exclusive part of town.
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Anvilbrother

***Hi Anvil,

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I think you are lying.



That is absolutely uncalled for.

I would have expected better of you.

Shame.

Jerry Baumchen



Do we not have the right to call someone out on something? 37 years in Chicago and he has never been a victim of any type of crime...I call bullshit.

And you would be wrong, so the BS is all yours.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Anvilbrother

***Hi Anvil,

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I think you are lying.



***I call bullshit.



Calling someone a liar and/or saying that you disagree with them are two completely different things.

One is very rude, the other is a conversation.

Jerry Baumchen

Calling someone a liar, and saying someone is lying is two different things. One is a PA, and the other is a question of the honesty of their statement. I did not mean any ill intent to him, only his statement.



Saying someone is stealing is not saying they're a thief?

Saying someone is committing rape is not saying they're a rapist?

Saying someone kidnapped a child is not saying they're a kidnapper.

You made two very obvious personal attacks on me. Now trying to weasel out is pathetic.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

******Hi Anvil,

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I think you are lying.



***I call bullshit.


Calling someone a liar and/or saying that you disagree with them are two completely different things.

One is very rude, the other is a conversation.

Jerry Baumchen

Calling someone a liar, and saying someone is lying is two different things. One is a PA, and the other is a question of the honesty of their statement. I did not mean any ill intent to him, only his statement.



Saying someone is stealing is not saying they're a thief?

Saying someone is committing rape is not saying they're a rapist?

Saying someone kidnapped a child is not saying they're a kidnapper.

You made two very obvious personal attacks on me. Now trying to weasel out is pathetic.

Is a vulture capitalist like the former GOP candidate in 2012 a thief????

In the GOP the meaning of rape seems to be variable based on what we have seen some senior conservatives who do not think its possible...good rape.. bad rape.... can't get pregnant unless they really wanted it because the female body can shut that down????:S

I guess a non custodial parent stealing his kids is not a kidnapper.....

Words seem to have been repurposed at random by compassionate conservatives.

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It's interesting how people aren't supposed to resent rich industrialists and bankers for their money, but I guess it's OK to resent college professors who have worked and saved (most don't make that much money -- my father was a college professor) so they could buy stuff.

Fuck that. Attack the message, not the messenger. nearly without exception, the most paranoid people I e met are the ones who have recently started carrying. They see threats all around.

Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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I got my CWP for the process of buying, pre-cleared makes it a lot easier. I found I'm not paranoid enough to carry everywhere I go though or the proper weapon is such a pain to carry.

I'd prefer that everyone buying a weapon clears a thorough background check like I did with the CWP process.
Giving a kid a .45 for his 21st birthday might have been a bad move for this young man. Surprised (sadly, again) that it wasn't apparent that he shouldn't have a weapon in the first place.

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When I heard he was called 'Dylann Roof' I thought what a weird name, but when I found out that he was actually called 'Dylann Storm Roof' I understood why he grew up hating society. What a fuckin stupid name. :D

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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normiss

Well, because English.

Much like the PA in the PM you sent me, it's downright illegible.
WTF are you saying man?
Have you gone mad?
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Likewise received a near unreadable PM from "rweider". Sentence structure and writing composition similar to that of a 6yr old boy. ??
"Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes"

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RMK

Do your posts here seem intelligible to you when you're typing?

God damn, they're "missing the mark" for those smarter than cocker spaniels when reading them.



his posts are absolutely intelligible. Just because you disagree with them doesn't make them any less valid. Just as your views might be valid. Although you don't seem to live in the US
If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

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grimmie

I guess I lumped the evil in with the crazy. All of the pretty evil people I have met, arrested, seen over the years seemed pretty crazy to me.



a pirate or brigand brought up in Somalia who thinks nothing of killing people is not crazy - that's the way many of them are brought up. It's 'normal' over there.

They're not crazy. But they are evil if they do it...
If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

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In general the treatment of the story will depend on the race of the shooter:

Black - he is a criminal; what can we do about these violent thugs?
Arab - he is a terrorist. Why aren't other Muslims condemning him? They must support him.
White - he is someone with a mental problem who just fell through the cracks. It's his family tree or his upbringing that made such a normal-looking kid do these things.

(This is a variation on the "white people find food, black people loot" meme seen after Katrina in the media.)

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Sigh...
Now we'll have to arm Kindergarten teachers AND pastors.

While we spend gazillions of tax dollars chasing the "terrorists" around the Middle East, to keep Americans safe, we overlook what is really killing Americans here quite violently.

The NRA will come out with the tired line of "good guy with a gun would have stopped this".

The anti gun movement will want all guns banned.

The politicians will all cry how terrible this is.

People will hold candle light vigils for the victims.

The crazy people will blame Obama.

The racists will bring up Freddie Gray and Trayvon Martin, etc, etc.

The talking heads on TV will all yell their opinions.

The conspiracy theorists will all blame the government and say this is another staged shooting to take everyone's guns.

Next week it will be some school, movie theater, church, shopping center with more bullets flying, more blood spilled, more tears shed.

It's time to really have a national debate to try and find some real solutions, and too try to keep crazy hands off of guns.

sigh...



Sadly enough, this is the most accurate post yet.

But realistically, what can be done? With the amount of guns out there can there be any effective and meaningful control measures put in place?
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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Hi rwieder,

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just maybe he hates Christians like so many others here??



Can you name one person who has ever posted here that they hate Christians?

I am a 100% committed athiest; my daughter is a Christian.

I believe in each to their own.

The ball is in your court,

Jerry Baumchen

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NOW, here we go again with whitey shooting the people of color, riots, looting, you know the rest of the deal. Liquor stores and pharmacies first!

Hmmm. 24 hours and not one liquor store or pharmacy looted. Don't you just hate it when "those people" don't conform to your stereotypes?

Don
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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)

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Hmmm. 24 hours and not one liquor store or pharmacy looted. Don't you just hate it when "those people" don't conform to your stereotypes?

Don



I could give a fu*k. I don't live there, never will. I got your stereotype, you know where it is. Come get it.

Did everyone understand that??
-Richard-
"You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

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rwieder

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Hmmm. 24 hours and not one liquor store or pharmacy looted. Don't you just hate it when "those people" don't conform to your stereotypes?

Don



I could give a fu*k. I don't live there, never will. I got your stereotype, you know where it is. Come get it.

Did everyone understand that??



I hear you man.

Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

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Anvilbrother

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Hmmm. 24 hours and not one liquor store or pharmacy looted. Don't you just hate it when "those people" don't conform to your stereotypes?

Don



I could give a fu*k. I don't live there, never will. I got your stereotype, you know where it is. Come get it.

Did everyone understand that??



I hear you man.

You know I have been called a heartless bastard, but you both got me beat.
I wrote more but deleted it. Not wanting to get banned.
Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

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There is so much wrong with you just wrote it's actually quite unbelievable that an educated man has such simple world view. I'll try to explain.

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It's kinda line wondering whether Germany is going to start another world war. In order to make sure that doesn't happen the US maintained a military presence over yonder. And Germany has been forced to behave xfor 70 years now.



The real reason for the strong American military presence was Russia, if you'd payed any attention in history class you would know that the cold war started pretty much right after WW2 and the enemy was literally behind a wall in Germany. The US was very interested in holding a strong strategic influence in Europe as counter point to Warsaw pact and Germany was perfect for that due the divide and lost war. I'm not even going to start with the economic reasons for the US involvement because that would make my answer even more complicated.

But if it makes you feel better, the US was only here to hold gun to our chests.


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It's not a matter of fear anymore. It's a matter of security. Really. What are the chances that Germany is going to start another world war? The answer is zero so long as we have civilized people with guns of all sizes letting Germans know that the war will be over before they have a chance to really get it going.



Do you really think that's the only reason Germany hasn't started another war?

Right now Germany has one of the most pacifist societies on earth. Every time Germany wants to get involved in any conflict there is major outcry and huge public debate.

In the last 70 years only one our countries could be considered a war monger... Guess which one. And it's not that the US didn't repeatedly request German military involvement in their various adventures, you know, as thank you for protecting us from the Russians, hell Germany even has troops in Afghanistan.

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So, too, do people carry guns in the US. No, Germans don't scare us. We scare them. Germans won't dare start shit with Americans around. So, too, do Americans have guns in public.



If Germany is peaceful because you have us outgunned why does the US have highest violent crime rate of any 1st world country?
Flawless logic.


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And note: I have less fear of a member of the American public than I do of a German airline pilot.



To add another incredibly stupid comment in the same spirit, I feel safer with a German pilot than any American police officer.

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rwieder

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Another tragic waste of life. How long until the NRA call for all preachers to be armed?


In Texas, Our new Govenor, Gregg Abbott did just that....Open Carry, not concealed. I carry 2, every where I go, even church, (Concealed) I cannot understand for the life of me why someone in the congregation didn't have a gun.

It is a CHURCH. Since when do people go armed to CHURCH ?
A Church is a peace haven. Always been. Always will. I believe pretty universally, in all (or most) religions. Unlest you are a fucking nutter extremist.
scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

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rwieder

***you know where it is. Come get it.

Did everyone understand that??



Are you 10 yrs old and slyly posting as an adult here or is the avatar of the late middle-age man with stylish mullet haircut you?
"Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes"

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