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Sigh... Now we'll have to arm Kindergarten teachers AND pastors.
While we spend gazillions of tax dollars chasing the "terrorists" around the Middle East, to keep Americans safe, we overlook what is really killing Americans here quite violently.
The NRA will come out with the tired line of "good guy with a gun would have stopped this".
The anti gun movement will want all guns banned. The politicians will all cry how terrible this is. People will hold candle light vigils for the victims. The crazy people will blame Obama. The racists will bring up Freddie Gray and Trayvon Martin, etc, etc. The talking heads on TV will all yell their opinions. The conspiracy theorists will all blame the government and say this is another staged shooting to take everyone's guns. Next week it will be some school, movie theater, church, shopping center with more bullets flying, more blood spilled, more tears shed. It's time to really have a national debate to try and find some real solutions, and too try to keep crazy hands off of guns. sigh....


So I'm clear, Just exactly what is your complaint??



I apologize. I didn't know English wasn't your first language.

And did you really call Normiss a bleeding heart liberal????

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Just a quick question:

Why is it presumed that there is some form of "crazy" involved? Evil and crazy are separate things. And I am operating g under the presumption that this guy is evil and hate filled.

There are differences. Crazy people don't worry me much at all. The evil ones do. And no medication can treat evil.


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***Dollars to doughnuts says the guy was on some of the popular psychiatric meds (Prozac, Zoloft, Luvox, Paxil, Celexa, Welbutrin, etc.).



I'm willing to bet the guy was self medicating with other street-type psychotropics.

I'm willing to bet... he's your standard-issue racist southern white trash with a readily apparent "issues".

What should his parents have done? Of course give him a .45 for his birthday (not like his Facebook photo was any give-away of him being racist and psychologically unhinged).
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I apologize. I didn't know English wasn't your first language.


Is it your knee-jerk reaction to insult someone right off, or do you think about it for a second? Why the need to feel you should apologize? Hmph...
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And did you really call Normiss a bleeding heart liberal????


Do I really need to answer this? I get sick and tired of all the whining and crying because of our rights, that others don't have in other states. Our focus should be on the innocent souls that lost their lives during a prayer meeting. Thing is, most of the people here could care less about religion, or the possible existence of a higher power. However, when someone goes in and loses their lives, it's all about "God Bless you" etc...etc...
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JerryBaumchen

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I think you are lying.



***I call bullshit.



Calling someone a liar and/or saying that you disagree with them are two completely different things.

One is very rude, the other is a conversation.

Jerry Baumchen

Calling someone a liar, and saying someone is lying is two different things. One is a PA, and the other is a question of the honesty of their statement. I did not mean any ill intent to him, only his statement.

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I'm willing to bet... he's your standard-issue racist southern white trash with a readily apparent "issues".


You are flying the UK flag, right? Don't be so concerned about what goes on here in the lower 48 as it doesn't affect your day to day.
-Richard-
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This mass murder has nothing to do with religion. :S


Yeah, I reckon not. Never mind it was at a prayer meeting.

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CHARLESTON, S.C. (Reuters) - A 21-year-old white man suspected of killing nine people at a historic African-American church in Charleston, South Carolina was arrested on Thursday after an attack that the United States is investigating as a hate crime.


Maybe, just maybe he hates Christians like so many others here??
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I guess I lumped the evil in with the crazy. All of the pretty evil people I have met, arrested, seen over the years seemed pretty crazy to me.



I can totally get that. I think that acts of pure evil are things that are so beyond the scope of what most people think of that the mere act itself must implicate some serious brain dysfunction.

I look at it like this. Hinckley was fucking nuts. Then look at those like Ted Bundy. Sane and evil. Look at Russell Williams in Canada. Sane and evil. It seems shocking to so many, including me, that a Sane person would do what people like them did.

Problem is that it turns crazy into something worse. And turns evil into something better.


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In my car I carry a quite extensive medic kit that has virtually everything anyone could need to prolong a life until an ambulance can arrive, I hope to never need it to do more than repair a scrape or bandage a minor cut but I am prepared for worse.

I carry a firearm with two spare magazines with the same mindset, If Its needed then I will have it - do I think I will need it? I really hope I never do.

Being prepared for the worst is not paranoia, paranoia would be a full battle kit while watering your lawn.

Both the medic kit and carrying a weapon are me preparing for the worst but hoping for the best.

I carry but I don't feel the need for a backup weapon but Someone carrying two or more weapons is just an extension of 'be prepared' guns can malfunction and drawing a backup can be quicker than clearing the mal so I do understand why but for me one is enough.

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rwieder

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Dude, the corpses are still leaking blood. That couldn't wait for another 5 minutes?


Counselor: The corpses are not still leaking blood, that's ridiculous. If you dont have the stomach for this kind of situation, go into exile? I was speaking from the past events all the way back to Rodney King. We all know what's happened lately. Their 1st reaction is to loot, burn steal, and the liquor stores and pharmacies are always the 1st to get hit God forbid they burn up the booze and dope. You don't like that, complain to the historic facts, I don't want to hear it.



Maybe if slave owners like you had treated them better.....

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rwieder

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I'm willing to bet... he's your standard-issue racist southern white trash with a readily apparent "issues".


You are flying the UK flag, right? Don't be so concerned about what goes on here in the lower 48 as it doesn't affect your day to day.



People being needlessly killed should concern everyone (again, do you read the shit you write?)

I lived in the US south in the 70s and 80s, I'm intimately aware of how racist it was then and now.
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Yea it sucks, but don't blame him he's the victim here. You respond to your environment, and yes the US is full of shit stains that would rather steal and kill than get a job and work.



I thought that welfare made people lazy and caused this?

Yet these other countries where people have less of a murderous tendency have much larger social safety nets/welfare.

Shouldn't these more socialist countries have higher violence than the US with its limited welfare?

Or are Americans just more likely to be psychopaths?

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Yea it sucks, but don't blame him he's the victim here. You respond to your environment, and yes the US is full of shit stains that would rather steal and kill than get a job and work.



I thought that welfare made people lazy and caused this?

Yet these other countries where people have less of a murderous tendency have much larger social safety nets/welfare.

Shouldn't these more socialist countries have higher violence than the US with its limited welfare?

Or are Americans just more likely to be psychopaths?



Probably the last part. Lots of inbreeding, chemicals in the water, GOP, global warming, etc, etc

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Yea it sucks, but don't blame him he's the victim here. You respond to your environment, and yes the US is full of shit stains that would rather steal and kill than get a job and work.



I thought that welfare made people lazy and caused this?

Yet these other countries where people have less of a murderous tendency have much larger social safety nets/welfare.

Shouldn't these more socialist countries have higher violence than the US with its limited welfare?

Or are Americans just more likely to be psychopaths?



Probably the last part. Lots of inbreeding, chemicals in the water, GOP, global warming, etc, etc

I think Americans are pretty similar to most others, specially say Canadians. So I will have to disagree with you.

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I carry but I don't feel the need for a backup weapon but Someone carrying two or more weapons is just an extension of 'be prepared' guns can malfunction and drawing a backup can be quicker than clearing the mal so I do understand why but for me one is enough.


Actually the mind set for carrying a small revolver in an ankle holster is....let's just say you got into a physical altercation, you and the perp fall to the floor and your primary is taken from you, or you can't get to it (It happens) and you find your self fighting for your life, thus the reason for the small backup. No other reason.
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I lived in the US south in the 70s and 80s, I'm intimately aware of how racist it was then and now.



Yeah everyone that "lived here" and a few that claim to live here are intimately aware of how racist the south is.

I've lived here and still live here for 55 years, it isn't perfect but it isn't as bad as so many people want (for some odd reason) to say.

Sorry it's just not.

I'm not trying to change your mind or for that matter anyone but for the life of me I just don't see it. I live in a world of blacks and whites and all this "racist white trash" just doesn't seem any worse than I see up North.
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normiss

Well, because English.

Much like the PA in the PM you sent me, it's downright illegible.
WTF are you saying man?
Have you gone mad?
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