piisfish 135 #1 May 28, 2015 http://wtvr.com/2015/05/27/child-shot-in-head-dies/ QuoteShe said unfortunately, incidents like this are a reminder for all gun owners to keep their weapons in a safe place. Smith said it’s especially important if people are at your home who may be unfamiliar with guns. ...“You need to be educated on guns, everyone does,” she said, “Even if you’re against guns, even if you never want to own a gun.”scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #2 May 28, 2015 Quote...“You need to be educated on guns, everyone does,” she said, “Even if you’re against guns, even if you never want to own a gun.” Well stated Thanks for posting"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #3 May 28, 2015 I wonder if all these people who have their kids shooting themselveskeep their guns afterwards ? -Do they still want guns ? -Does "society" deems they are still trustworthy with a gun ? Leaving loaded guns where 2 yrs old kids can grab them is NOT a valid educational point in my neck of the woods.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #4 May 28, 2015 It's trailer trash, part of a Rich and vibrant culture. Let 'em all kill each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #5 May 28, 2015 piisfish Leaving loaded guns where 2 yrs old kids can grab them is NOT a valid educational point in my neck of the woods. Mine either and some people should not drive and some should not skydive So, do we take parachutes and cars away from everyone?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #6 May 28, 2015 QuoteSo, do we take parachutes and cars away from everyone? When we allow 2 year olds to use them for their intended purpose, then yes there usually are consequences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #7 May 28, 2015 SkyDekkerQuoteSo, do we take parachutes and cars away from everyone? When we allow 2 year olds to use them for their intended purpose, then yes there usually are consequences. Ah so you ingore the stories of when 2 yo's have gotten vehicles started and put the in gear causeing injuries and damage I get that coming from you oh and of course only YOUR definition of intended use is acceptable Got it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #8 May 28, 2015 Quoteso you ingore the stories of when 2 yo's have gotten vehicles started and put the in gear causeing injuries and damage List the stories Quoteand of course only YOUR definition of intended use is acceptable Uhm no, thats not how it works. A car is supposed to drive, a parachute is supposed to slow you down and a gun is intended to fire projectiles. What did you have in mind for these things? And will you be able to stick to one definition for longer than two posts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slater 0 #9 May 28, 2015 SkyDekkerQuoteso you ingore the stories of when 2 yo's have gotten vehicles started and put the in gear causeing injuries and damage List the stories 2 years old 3 years 4 years 5 8 9 uh oh SlaterMcConkey es Dios Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #10 May 28, 2015 And funny enough in quite a few of those stories people are getting charged.... Hence what I said....usually there are consequences. Thank you for making my point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 May 28, 2015 piisfishI wonder if all these people who have their kids shooting themselveskeep their guns afterwards ? -Do they still want guns ? -Does "society" deems they are still trustworthy with a gun ? Leaving loaded guns where 2 yrs old kids can grab them is NOT a valid educational point in my neck of the woods. ETA to fix fat fingering.... I would love to see something like the Swiss ... or I particularly like Israel's way of dealing with a "well regulated militia". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #12 May 28, 2015 rushmc*** Leaving loaded guns where 2 yrs old kids can grab them is NOT a valid educational point in my neck of the woods. Mine either, and some people should not drive and some should not skydive. So, do we take parachutes and cars away from everyone? You're really doing a crap job of speaking for firearm owners Marc. Strawmanning the hell out of anything someone says isn't helping. piisfishI wonder if all these people who have their kids shooting themselveskeep their guns afterwards ? -Do they still want guns ? -Does "society" deems they are still trustworthy with a gun ? The answer to all these questions is that it depends. In many jurisdictions there is criminal liability if a child does something like this with a firearm of yours. If it constitutes a felony or one of a few disqualifying misdemeanors (which depends on the details and, again, the jurisdiction) then, no, society does not deem them trustworthy with a gun anymore. As for whether they would still want guns? I dunno, and I don't have any interest in changing people's wants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites