tonyhays 86 #1 May 23, 2015 http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AP_EU_IRELAND_GAY_MARRIAGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-23-13-59-10 Yet another loss for the bigots.“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #2 May 23, 2015 And by a landslide. Historically one of the most socially conservative countries in Europe, and this is what they do. Yet one more issue on which so many Americans remain utterly clueless to how their attitudes are already relegated to the ash heap of history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 61 #3 May 23, 2015 God approves Irish referendum resultAtheism is a Non-Prophet Organisation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #4 May 23, 2015 We can hope the SCOTUS does the right thing and follow suit. A 5-4 vote would be nice, but I'm hoping for a result like the Brown vs. Board of Education case.“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #5 May 24, 2015 and the President sends in troops to enforce the rule? With Ginsberg, Sotomayor, and Kagen, that is three solid vote for same sex marriage.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #6 May 24, 2015 tonyhayshttp://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AP_EU_IRELAND_GAY_MARRIAGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-23-13-59-10 Yet another loss for the bigots. God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #7 May 24, 2015 Coreeece ***http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AP_EU_IRELAND_GAY_MARRIAGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-23-13-59-10 Yet another loss for the bigots. God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. Be careful, the bigots are going to get their revenge by posting bible verses on the internet God is such a cunt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #8 May 24, 2015 I think you take things too personal...God's just trying to help.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #9 May 24, 2015 By promoting violence and intolerance?“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #10 May 24, 2015 tonyhaysBy promoting violence and intolerance? Did not God give them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another? Did not God give them over to shameful lusts, that their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones, or that In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another? Did they not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God? So God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.... Do they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them?Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #11 May 24, 2015 Your indoctrination is impressive, but don't think for a moment that the Irish are any less so. And yet they have the perspective and insight to think for themselves and recognize what's right. See my comment above re Americans and the ash heap of history. At some point adherence to indoctrination cannot be explained away as anything other than arrogance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 May 24, 2015 Coreeece***http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AP_EU_IRELAND_GAY_MARRIAGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-23-13-59-10 Yet another loss for the bigots. God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity 18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. Saul was just such a lovable guy.... his writing has the mark of his education in the temple and all the "love" of the Old Testament and a very angry God. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #13 May 24, 2015 Andy9o8 Your indoctrination is impressive, but don't think for a moment that the Irish are any less so. And yet they have the perspective and insight to think for themselves and recognize what's right. See my comment above re Americans and the ash heap of history. At some point adherence to indoctrination cannot be explained away as anything other than arrogance. I blame the Protestants. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #14 May 24, 2015 That would be funny except that it is SO pathetic.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #15 May 25, 2015 >God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity Never mind that passage. Leviticus 20:13 instructs you to kill homosexuals in no uncertain terms. Let's all hope you find some "moral flexibility" on that part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #16 May 25, 2015 CoreeeceI think you take things too personal...God's just trying to help. god DIDNT WRTIE ANY OF THAT SHIT, THAT SHIT IS THE SOLE DOMAIN OF THE BIGOTTED MAN.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #17 May 25, 2015 billvon. Leviticus 20:13 instructs you to kill homosexuals in no uncertain terms. . Aha! So where there is ambiguity there is life! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #18 May 25, 2015 Andy9o8***. Leviticus 20:13 instructs you to kill homosexuals in no uncertain terms. . Aha! So where there is ambiguity there is life! Still, we have all been ambiguous in time.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #19 May 25, 2015 Even Archbishop Martin has stated the church needs a reality check. I would agree with him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #20 May 25, 2015 Coreeece***By promoting violence and intolerance? Did not God give them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another? Did not God give them over to shameful lusts, that their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones, or that In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another? Did they not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God? So God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.... Do they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them? In the story book? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. In reality? No, no, yes, no, some.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #21 May 25, 2015 Andy9o8Your indoctrination is impressive, but don't think for a moment that the Irish are any less so. And yet they have the perspective and insight to think for themselves and recognize what's right. I simply view the passage as a relevant description of society - the practical application of which is to serve as a warning against our own lusts, rather than to go out and fight against gay marriage. It is none of my business if two men love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together...and I certainly don't care to know whether they remain celibate or not. Again, It's none of my business and I want to keep it that way. Personally, I would be offended if asked to vote on this crap, and you should be to. Andy9o8At some point adherence to indoctrination cannot be explained away as anything other than arrogance The arrogance is found with all the bullies shouting 'bigot!' toward anyone who dares express disdain rather than hearty approval of gay sex.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #22 May 25, 2015 billvon>God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity Never mind that passage. Leviticus 20:13 instructs you to kill homosexuals in no uncertain terms. Let's all hope you find some "moral flexibility" on that part. let he that is without sin cast the first stone... How's that?Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #23 May 25, 2015 >let he that is without sin cast the first stone...How's that? Sounds like you have found a justification to ignore the parts of the Bible that you don't want to heed. (Which is fine - everyone does that.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #24 May 25, 2015 >Personally, I would be offended if asked to vote on this crap, and you should be to. So you would prefer gay marriage just be legalized via the Supreme Court or similar body, rather than by a vote? That way their marriage is none of your business, and remains that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #25 May 25, 2015 billvon>let he that is without sin cast the first stone...How's that? Sounds like you have found a justification to ignore the parts of the Bible that you don't want to heed. (Which is fine - everyone does that.) New Testament scriptures explain the concept of grace vs law rather thoroughly...it's your choice if you continue to ignore it.Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
