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If that's the absolute best you've got, then your retort was a complete and total failure. Thank you come again...or in this case just go away with your tail between your legs.



What is the point of your post if not stupid hate and fear mongering? There are plenty of academic articles discussing Islams influence on culture, yet you post the most vile stupid thing available.

You are either too lazy or lack the intellectual capacity to discuss this issue in an intelligent manner.

Hence my reply.

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If you're gonna throw that in our faces, then accept the fact we'll throw the Holocaust in your faces. 6 million died in less than 10 years. Either by starvation or Zyklon B mixed with water.

I don't need to tell you which was far worse. :S
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If you're gonna throw that in our faces, then accept the fact we'll throw the Holocaust in your faces. 6 million died in less than 10 years. Either by starvation or Zyklon B mixed with water.

I don't need to tell you which was far worse. :S

The 6 million only refers to Jews.

If you add homosexuals, communists, Romana, Soviets and the like, the number is much more substantial.

The reality is that, compared to the Soviet Union and Communist China, the Third Reich qualified for the Bronze at best. In terms of percentage of population killed, the Khmer Rouge were at the top of the class.

All this quibbling aside, ISIS sucks out loud. Most of the worst offenders went for plausible deniability, while the Caliphate is into show-and-tell.

They demand respect for their religion, and I agree that it is due - in the same sense that one respects a pit bull snarling and snapping and frothing at the mouth as it makes its way up the street. The adherents to such an ism should be treated accordingly.


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The internet is full of catchy images that get passed around and called "Memes".

It is something of a reductionist misnomer as the real origin meaning and use of the word "meme" is in regard to the behavior and characteristics of self-replicating self-propagating ideas. They can be simple, (pokemon, Bart Simpson T-shirts) or complex (Roman Catholicism, Islam, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, etc).

But the thing they all have in common is that in the wild they behave like the intellectual equivalent to a computer virus.

As the upper end of human society grows more sophisticated, connected and well informed more and more people will become aware of the hazards of allowing such self-replicating ideas into their minds. These dangers are real. An out-of-control memetic infection resulted in Nazi Germany. Another resulted in the Rwandan Genocide.
These ISIS clowns are infected with the idea equivalent of Rabies. The Zombie Apocalypse is real- we're lookin' at it. The lesson I personally draw from all this is, don't buy into any "ism"s. It's kind of like internet hygiene... don't just download and run any ".exe" files you find, and don't just download and run every "ism" file people are passing around just because it is trendy. The fact that it is trendy, is often a dead giveaway in and of itself that this is probably a meme best avoided.
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Oh look here.... Muslims bombing other muslims...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/suicide-bombers-kill-126-in-yemen-mosque-attacks/ar-BBiucmr

Well to be more precise... another ISIS attack on shiite muslims at two shiite mosques, that now have been turned to shite.

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If you're gonna throw that in our faces, then accept the fact we'll throw the Holocaust in your faces. 6 million died in less than 10 years. Either by starvation or Zyklon B mixed with water.

I don't need to tell you which was far worse. :S

The 6 million only refers to Jews.

If you add homosexuals, communists, Romana, Soviets and the like, the number is much more substantial.

The reality is that, compared to the Soviet Union and Communist China, the Third Reich qualified for the Bronze at best. In terms of percentage of population killed, the Khmer Rouge were at the top of the class.

All this quibbling aside, ISIS sucks out loud. Most of the worst offenders went for plausible deniability, while the Caliphate is into show-and-tell.

They demand respect for their religion, and I agree that it is due - in the same sense that one respects a pit bull snarling and snapping and frothing at the mouth as it makes its way up the street. The adherents to such an ism should be treated accordingly.


BSBD,

Winsor

Oh, I agree Winsor, an inadvertent omission on my part. Yes, 6 million Jews died, plus about what, 4 to 5 million more of the others that you mentioned?

I just think it's hysterical that these German posters throw our history of atrocities in our faces... well... I'll take our damn history of atrocities over THEIRS any fucking day.

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If that's the absolute best you've got, then your retort was a complete and total failure. Thank you come again...or in this case just go away with your tail between your legs.



What is the point of your post if not stupid hate and fear mongering? There are plenty of academic articles discussing Islams influence on culture, yet you post the most vile stupid thing available.

You are either too lazy or lack the intellectual capacity to discuss this issue in an intelligent manner.

Hence my reply.



I think not generalizing and trying to see the whole picture not just the black and white simple one is difficult, or uncomfortable for most.

Most right wing Christians think of the US as a christian nation, we kill,spill more blood, and start more unnecessary wars then ANY ONE, but yet the blind are still blind.

Those are facts historical facts, so how do you reach people who cant understand simple historical facts? you don't you just put them in column R and hope they don't download there limited ideas to another human.

The crazy thing is they are so much more like the very people they hate then they ever can realize. Extreme illogical,hate mongering,and xenophobic now if we could add greedy to that list you basically have whats the main issue with humanity and all dick heads.

Islam Is a religion, a way to motivate, some good some bad no different then any way of belief one might choose to believe. Some use Jesus for inspiration to help the poor help the weak, some who claim the same inspiration to kill people. I always blame the individuals. and i think that's the correct way to be.
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If that's the absolute best you've got, then your retort was a complete and total failure. Thank you come again...or in this case just go away with your tail between your legs.



What is the point of your post if not stupid hate and fear mongering? There are plenty of academic articles discussing Islams influence on culture, yet you post the most vile stupid thing available.



The same thing could be said about your thread on how a christian conservative upbringing can cause the mentally unstable to become mass murderers...
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Islam Is a religion, a way to motivate, some good some bad no different then any way of belief one might choose to believe.



I have to call bullshit on this one, Sparky.

I do not defend the failings of other isms, particularly when taken to extremes. Religion, in general, is but a socially acceptable form of psychosis - holding discussions with invisible people can get you put in a laughing academy if the invisible person is addressed by the wrong name.

In any event, the origins of Islam (whether Sunni or Shi'ite) are massively at variance with those of other popular systems of delusion. The closest parallels are Mormon and, perhaps, Scientology, which were also created from whole cloth by shameless hucksters for the basest of reasons.

Records of Jesus are singularly unreliable (God only knows what the truth is...), but he apparently occupied an historical socio-political niche, and was posthumously exploited by various groups of 'followers.'

Mohammad, OTOH, was by all accounts an illiterate, narcissistic, perverted, mass-murdering psychopath; a 'Prince of Peace' he was not.

I have an abiding problem with anyone who would revere such an individual in precisely the same sense as I have a problem with people with swastika tattoos. I have had extensive dealings with both groups.

Again, while full expression of any religion is psychosis, that of Islam is psycopathology.


BSBD,

Winsor

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Islam Is a religion, a way to motivate, some good some bad no different then any way of belief one might choose to believe.



I have to call bullshit on this one, Sparky.

I do not defend the failings of other isms, particularly when taken to extremes. Religion, in general, is but a socially acceptable form of psychosis - holding discussions with invisible people can get you put in a laughing academy if the invisible person is addressed by the wrong name.

In any event, the origins of Islam (whether Sunni or Shi'ite) are massively at variance with those of other popular systems of delusion. The closest parallels are Mormon and, perhaps, Scientology, which were also created from whole cloth by shameless hucksters for the basest of reasons.

Records of Jesus are singularly unreliable (God only knows what the truth is...), but he apparently occupied an historical socio-political niche, and was posthumously exploited by various groups of 'followers.'

Mohammad, OTOH, was by all accounts an illiterate, narcissistic, perverted, mass-murdering psychopath; a 'Prince of Peace' he was not.

I have an abiding problem with anyone who would revere such an individual in precisely the same sense as I have a problem with people with swastika tattoos. I have had extensive dealings with both groups.

Again, while full expression of any religion is psychosis, that of Islam is psycopathology.


BSBD,

Winsor

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***Religion, in general, is but a socially acceptable form of psychosis



Not any more than repeating the same exact statement over and over is a sign of dementia...

Au contraire, mon petit chouchou.

It is said that neurotics build castles in the clouds, while psychotics live in them. Welcome to the world religious.

Dementia, as typified by Alzheimers, etc., has a variety of indicators, and "repeating the same exact statement over and over" is not on the short list.

Repeating the same exact statement over and over is the lot of songwriters and poets (z.B., "Quoth the raven, `Nevermore'").


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If that's the absolute best you've got, then your retort was a complete and total failure. Thank you come again...or in this case just go away with your tail between your legs.



What is the point of your post if not stupid hate and fear mongering? There are plenty of academic articles discussing Islams influence on culture, yet you post the most vile stupid thing available.

You are either too lazy or lack the intellectual capacity to discuss this issue in an intelligent manner.

Hence my reply.



I think not generalizing and trying to see the whole picture not just the black and white simple one is difficult, or uncomfortable for most.

Most right wing Christians think of the US as a christian nation, we kill,spill more blood, and start more unnecessary wars then ANY ONE, but yet the blind are still blind.

Those are facts historical facts, so how do you reach people who cant understand simple historical facts? you don't you just put them in column R and hope they don't download there limited ideas to another human.

The crazy thing is they are so much more like the very people they hate then they ever can realize. Extreme illogical,hate mongering,and xenophobic now if we could add greedy to that list you basically have whats the main issue with humanity and all dick heads.

Islam Is a religion, a way to motivate, some good some bad no different then any way of belief one might choose to believe. Some use Jesus for inspiration to help the poor help the weak, some who claim the same inspiration to kill people. I always blame the individuals. and i think that's the correct way to be.

Lets go over the wars the USA has started in this century. Oh that's right. There aren't any.

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Lets go over the wars the USA has started in this century. Oh that's right. There aren't any.



I'll try to put this as delicately as possible but... were you in a fucking coma in 2001 through 2003?

Global politics so far this century have been defined by the wars the USA started. Fair enough, the Russians are having a good go at it as well over the last couple of years - but they've still got a lot of catching up to do.
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