Anvilbrother 0 #26 February 21, 2015 Iirc in the video from the mother jones he even says from Argentina on the Falklands. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #27 February 21, 2015 AnvilbrotherIirc in the video from the mother jones he even says from Argentina on the Falklands. "I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important." 'I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I've almost been killed three times, okay.'... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #28 February 21, 2015 AnvilbrotherIirc in the video from the mother jones he even says from Argentina on the Falklands. You recall incorrectly. Heck, why are you relying on recall at all? You could just watch it again.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #29 February 22, 2015 jgoose71Yes, the Mother Jones web site claims this, but if you watch the embedded video, you get more of the impression that he was reporting on the Falklands from Argentina. Oh would you? Because it's clear that when he says "in the Falklands" he means "In Buenos Aires"? Like when he said "I've reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands" or "I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands" or "I missed Moyers in the war zones of [the] Falkland conflict in Argentina" The only way he could have been in a Falklands war zone is if he was on the islands, on a ship in the exclusion zone, or on board HMS Conqueror when it sank the Belgrano. If being in a Buenos Aires riot makes you part of a Falklands war zone then so would being in Yorkshire. O'Reilly's comments are at best deliberately disingenous self-aggrandisement and at worst outright lies. You can argue the toss on whether it matters, but arguing that he never said it is blind partisan hackery.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #30 February 22, 2015 Quote"I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important." 'I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I've almost been killed three times, okay.' It works both ways "I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important." He was describing the unrest after the surrender, the riots in Buenos Aires while doing coverage for CBS. We know this happened there is documentation to prove it. He didnt just say In the Falklands he said "In Argentina, in the Falklands" Its not like he completely said he was on the islands. It was a live video report if you simply change it to ""In Argentina, ON the Falklands" you have yourself what I think he meant to say. If your trying to lie why would you say IN ARGENTINA before you said the Falklands part? 'I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I've almost been killed three times, okay.' They were talking about war time media coverage, and being called out for never having done it. He stated "Ive been there"...Meaning Ive covered wars, The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. Even said something to the terms of "i missed you over there while I was doing these reports." basically calling him out. I dont see anything but some media diversion and bullshit throwing lies out there to see if it sticks to cover for williams. Fuck someone ask Brian im sure he was there on the ground with the troops. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #31 February 22, 2015 QuoteIt works both ways "I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, It doesn't work both ways, it's a statement of increasing specificity. The Falklands were temporarily (during the occupation) a subset of Argentina. You could be in the Falklands and be in Argentina, you could not be in Buenos Aires, or any part of mainland Argentina, and be in the Falklands. You also could not be in Buenos Aires and be in a Falklands war zone. It's like saying covering the Rodney King riots in LA meant you were in the Gulf war. QuoteEven said something to the terms of "i missed you over there while I was doing these reports." basically calling him out. Yes. What he said was exactly like "I missed Moyers in the war zones of [the] Falkland conflict in Argentina". Which is no surprise, because O'Reilly was not in the war zones of the Falklands conflict.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #32 February 22, 2015 AnvilbrotherIirc in the video from the mother jones he even says from Argentina on the Falklands. Aieee! They are the Malvinas! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,393 #33 February 22, 2015 >How was O'Reilly's past twisted? Surely you have been around this place long enough to know how this works. When a left-leaning person's lies are reported by the media, they are "exposed as frauds." When a right-leaning person's lies are exposed by the media, the media is "twisting facts." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #34 February 22, 2015 Naaaa Bill YOUVE been around long enough to know how this works. The left gets caught with us pants down and they have to level the playing field. Fox, and Bill O'Reily, are often the target. I wonder often has Fox entrance into the market place forced the "traditional" news sources farther to the left than before Fox. Think about it.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #35 February 22, 2015 jakee***Yes, the Mother Jones web site claims this, but if you watch the embedded video, you get more of the impression that he was reporting on the Falklands from Argentina. Oh would you? Because it's clear that when he says "in the Falklands" he means "In Buenos Aires"? I've been in Buenos Aires. Didn't see all the sheep or Port Stanley there.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #36 February 22, 2015 mirage62Naaaa Bill YOUVE been around long enough to know how this works. The left gets caught with us pants down and they have to level the playing field. Fox, and Bill O'Reily, are often the target. I wonder often has Fox entrance into the market place forced the "traditional" news sources farther to the left than before Fox. Think about it. Do you understand the concept of "hypocrisy"?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #37 February 22, 2015 AnvilbrotherQuote"I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important." 'I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I've almost been killed three times, okay.' It works both ways "I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important." He was describing the unrest after the surrender, the riots in Buenos Aires while doing coverage for CBS. We know this happened there is documentation to prove it. He didnt just say In the Falklands he said "In Argentina, in the Falklands" Its not like he completely said he was on the islands. It was a live video report if you simply change it to ""In Argentina, ON the Falklands" you have yourself what I think he meant to say. If your trying to lie why would you say IN ARGENTINA before you said the Falklands part? 'I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I've almost been killed three times, okay.' They were talking about war time media coverage, and being called out for never having done it. He stated "Ive been there"...Meaning Ive covered wars, The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. Even said something to the terms of "i missed you over there while I was doing these reports." basically calling him out. I dont see anything but some media diversion and bullshit throwing lies out there to see if it sticks to cover for williams. Fuck someone ask Brian im sure he was there on the ground with the troops. The envelope please. And the award for Lamest Defense of the Indefensible goes to Anvilbrother.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #38 February 22, 2015 Im sure thats the only way you see it. If this were Brian Williams your stance would be different I know that. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #39 February 22, 2015 AnvilbrotherIm sure thats the only way you see it. If this were Brian Williams your stance would be different I know that. Please provide a link to any post where I defended Brian Williams.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #40 February 23, 2015 AnvilbrotherQuote"I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important." 'I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I've almost been killed three times, okay.' It works both ways "I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important." He was describing the unrest after the surrender, the riots in Buenos Aires while doing coverage for CBS. We know this happened there is documentation to prove it. He didnt just say In the Falklands he said "In Argentina, in the Falklands" Its not like he completely said he was on the islands. It was a live video report if you simply change it to ""In Argentina, ON the Falklands" you have yourself what I think he meant to say. If your trying to lie why would you say IN ARGENTINA before you said the Falklands part? 'I've covered wars, okay? I've been there. The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. I've almost been killed three times, okay.' They were talking about war time media coverage, and being called out for never having done it. He stated "Ive been there"...Meaning Ive covered wars, The Falklands, Northern Ireland, the Middle East. Even said something to the terms of "i missed you over there while I was doing these reports." basically calling him out. I dont see anything but some media diversion and bullshit throwing lies out there to see if it sticks to cover for williams. Fuck someone ask Brian im sure he was there on the ground with the troops. It sure looking like all of the other CBS news people in country at the time remember things a whole lot different than your humble bloviator. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #41 February 23, 2015 Quote It sure looking like all of the other CBS news people in country at the time remember things a whole lot different than your humble bloviator. LOL, and THAT surprises you?Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,393 #42 February 23, 2015 >It sure looking like all of the other CBS news people in country at the time >remember things a whole lot different than your humble bloviator. That's because O'Reilly was fighting for his life in a war zone. All those other reporters just can't understand what he went through. Neither can you. (Next up - the RPG that his his airplane and nearly made him spill his drink.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #43 February 23, 2015 kallend***Im sure thats the only way you see it. If this were Brian Williams your stance would be different I know that. Please provide a link to any post where I defended Brian Williams. Apparently Anvilbrother can't find one. So much for his claim.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #44 March 2, 2015 As Jon Stewart pointed out: Why do we care so much more about those who lied about being in a war, than those lies that get us into wars? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #45 March 2, 2015 billvon>It sure looking like all of the other CBS news people in country at the time >remember things a whole lot different than your humble bloviator. That's because O'Reilly was fighting for his life in a war zone. All those other reporters just can't understand what he went through. Neither can you. (Next up - the RPG that his his airplane and nearly made him spill his drink.) Which I think leads to the question of whom we can trust in this. Say what one will ahit the Internet, blogs, Twitter. But there is a hefty dose of real time reporting coming from everyday people My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites