rushmc 18 #1 February 4, 2015 So, to follow the anti gunners logic, more death is to follow? QuoteNSSF-ADJUSTED NICS BACKGROUND CHECKS . . . The January 2015 NSSF-adjusted National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) figure of 1,052,441 is now the second highest January on record for the 16-year-old system, with an increase of 8.4 percent compared to the January 2014 NSSF-adjusted NICS figure of 970,510. For comparison, the unadjusted January 2015 NICS figure of 1,763,233 reflects a 6.8 percent increase from the unadjusted NICS figure of 1,650,565 in January 2014 Published by the NSSF"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #2 February 4, 2015 Oh damn I am wrong again QuoteAccording to FBI data out last week, violent crime declined in the first half of 2014, compared to the same period in 2013. The Preliminary Semiannual Uniform Crime Report showed decreases across all types of violent crime including a 6 percent decline in the number of homicides and a 10 percent drop in the number of robbery offenses. This trend appeared in all city groupings and U.S. regions. The latest figures show a continuation of the long-term decline in violent crime, even as the number of firearms in the hands of law-abiding American citizens has been increasing. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-january-june-2014"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tred 0 #3 February 4, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #4 February 4, 2015 tred https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE now you done it goiing and throwing out more facts!!! what the hell is the matter with you??? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speed-Flyer 0 #5 February 4, 2015 Interesting, however Australia has heavy gun control and is waaaaaay down the list... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #6 February 4, 2015 Speed-FlyerInteresting, however Australia has heavy gun control and is waaaaaay down the list... It doesnt have Democrats contolling the big cities......."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #7 February 4, 2015 rushmc***Interesting, however Australia has heavy gun control and is waaaaaay down the list... It doesnt have Democrats contolling the big cities....... You'll find that most people on the right in Australia are still on the left of the spectrum of US politics.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #8 February 4, 2015 Violent crime has always been about poverty and corruption. Gun control has very little effect. Guns don't wander the streets by them selves. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #9 February 4, 2015 http://www.worldpublicunion.org/2013-04-05-NEWS-australian-gun-ban-resulted-in-higher-crime-rates.html Murders committed with guns increased by 19%. Home invasions increased by 21%. Assaults committed with guns increased by 28%. Armed robberies skyrocketed with an increase of 69%. I wouldn't be happy about those statistics dude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #10 February 4, 2015 Remster******Interesting, however Australia has heavy gun control and is waaaaaay down the list... It doesnt have Democrats contolling the big cities....... You'll find that most people on the right in Australia are still on the left of the spectrum of US politics. Someone really needs to invent a sarcasm thingy As I was being less than serious"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #11 February 4, 2015 That's for one month... Do you need help finding some statistics for the last several years? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #12 February 4, 2015 jclalorThat's for one month... Do you need help finding some statistics for the last several years? For gun purchases? I could but even your favorite media outlets have reported on record yearly gun sales Or Are you talking the crime stats?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #13 February 4, 2015 rushmc***That's for one month... Do you need help finding some statistics for the last several years? For gun purchases? I could but even your favorite media outlets have reported on record yearly gun sales Or Are you talking the crime stats? You continue to be the most violent and murderous society in the Western World. Standing up and screaming how proud you are of that is rather silly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #14 February 4, 2015 SkyDekker ******That's for one month... Do you need help finding some statistics for the last several years? For gun purchases? I could but even your favorite media outlets have reported on record yearly gun sales Or Are you talking the crime stats? You continue to be the most violent and murderous society in the Western World. Standing up and screaming how proud you are of that is rather silly. ..... Because Mexico where guns are completely illegal and portions of the country are under the control of drug cartels and some towns where citizens have had enough have armed militias are taking over is SO MUCH better...."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #15 February 4, 2015 QuoteBecause Mexico where guns are completely illegal No they are not. And if you want to be proud of being less violent than Mexico, I think you are making my point for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #16 February 4, 2015 SkyDekker******That's for one month... Do you need help finding some statistics for the last several years? For gun purchases? I could but even your favorite media outlets have reported on record yearly gun sales Or Are you talking the crime stats? You continue to be the most violent and murderous society in the Western World. Standing up and screaming how proud you are of that is rather silly. Actually this is not the case Please refer to the vid posted early in the thread what I am proud of is showing how easy it is to show how unthinkingly biased you are"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BleuCiel 0 #17 February 4, 2015 Re: "You continue to be the most violent and murderous society in the Western World. " SkyDekkerQuoteBecause Mexico where guns are completely illegal No they are not. And if you want to be proud of being less violent than Mexico, I think you are making my point for me. I think he just provided one example of why your quote is incorrect. I'm sure there are others. And for you to make such an obviously incorrect claim, does little for your credibility. Besides, why did you limit it to the Western World - are you trying to filter out a lot of examples to the contrary that don't fit your theory? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 1 #18 February 4, 2015 SkyDekker******That's for one month... Do you need help finding some statistics for the last several years? For gun purchases? I could but even your favorite media outlets have reported on record yearly gun sales Or Are you talking the crime stats? You continue to be the most violent and murderous society in the Western World. Standing up and screaming how proud you are of that is rather silly. At least we have something to be proud of and you have??? Oh wait yeah Hockey..You do have that.... MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #19 February 4, 2015 SkyDekker Quote Because Mexico where guns are completely illegal No they are not. And if you want to be proud of being less violent than Mexico, I think you are making my point for me. And you suggested that America was more violent than Mexico. It that what they are teaching in Canada now a days?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #20 February 5, 2015 QuoteAnd you suggested that America was more violent than Mexico. It that what they are teaching in Canada now a days?Sly Mexican drug violence is a direct consequence of American violent drug policies. The "War on Drugs" War = the very definition of a violent status. So since American violent culture is directly responsible for the violence in Mexico, the violence still counts as American made in the minds of many. Just as the violence in Iraq is a direct consequence of violent American culture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kadde 0 #21 February 5, 2015 Taking your wealithiest city and comparing it to countries that are almost at a state of civil war isnt really setting the standard high. :P Looking at the countries that are around the same score as the U.S on that list gives a more accurate view of what the 111th place accually means (many of them are in war or civil war). I think its foolish to try and hide "bad numbers" in some sort of attempt to maintain once personal pride. You're shooting yourself in the foot acting like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #22 February 5, 2015 ibxQuoteAnd you suggested that America was more violent than Mexico. It that what they are teaching in Canada now a days?Sly Mexican drug violence is a direct consequence of American violent drug policies. The "War on Drugs" War = the very definition of a violent status. So since American violent culture is directly responsible for the violence in Mexico, the violence still counts as American made in the minds of many. Just as the violence in Iraq is a direct consequence of violent American culture. Most of the violence in the us is from the middle cities Criminals shooting criminals"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #23 February 5, 2015 QuoteMost of the violence in the us is from the middle cities Criminals shooting criminals Do you consider these criminals American? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #24 February 5, 2015 ibxQuoteMost of the violence in the us is from the middle cities Criminals shooting criminals Do you consider these criminals American? Yes dont you? I never implied otherwise but The US culture as a whole is not as violent as you and others would have us believe The context of what is really happening is important to understanding what really is going on"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BleuCiel 0 #25 February 5, 2015 ibxJust as the violence in Iraq is a direct consequence of violent American culture. So Iraq wasn't a violent place before America went in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
