Bolas 5 #51 February 1, 2015 wmw999 Trying to conflate all American Muslims with them because they share a stated religion is like conflating Baptists with the Lord's Resistance Army. Wendy P. Once fixed, do agree. But we can't ignore those in our country who agree with or support what the terrorists are doing, regardless of reason or religion.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,121 #52 February 2, 2015 Just as we can't ignore gun owners who might have evil intentions. They are far more likely to impact me, after all Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #53 February 2, 2015 >Jews don't wake up the neighborhood when going to synagogue. And Muslims don't snarl traffic on the Sabbath. O the horror of hearing a bell or having a light stay red longer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #54 February 2, 2015 wolfriverjoe******I think the issue is one of submitting themselves. Obviously, kids have no choice. But if an adult wants out of Halaka they can get out. Sharia has been different. If in an area where Sharia is the rule you must submit to it. Practitioners of Sharia advocate for its imposition on people. And if a 14 year old girl speaks out against it then she risks being assassinated. Really in all of the Muslim world? Or the tiny segment you watched on the news? It's reality in Afghanistan. There have been a large number of women assassinated. Usually for advocating for women's rights. Or for advocating education of women. Afghanistan is a desperate place that has had nothing but war. To try to use Islam as the explanation for horrific acts is inaccurate. It would like saying look at all the problems in Africa..fucking black people! I am not saying that religion does not act as a motivator but so does nationalism the root of the action is desperation. IMOI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #55 February 2, 2015 wmw999Just as we can't ignore gun owners who might have evil intentions. They are far more likely to impact me, after all Wendy P. How does one get arrested by having 'evil intentions'? Someone can have all the intent in the world and be a complete pussy and incapable of performing such actions. What if the person had 'evil intentions' and they just had a circular saw without the guard...and perhaps a nail gun. Would they still be as scary then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #56 February 2, 2015 BolasDo you have any examples of Jews restricting or denying basic education of their own people? All Jews???? , All Muslims??????? Again with the ALL. Which is always my main issue. I know ISIS is nuts, I know the Talabon Suck, i know we have bad people, but the ALLLLLL There are Jewish rabbis who suck infants cocks, but i would be an ass hole to say all Jews suck infant cock. Do you understand this. Some how for most of you Muslims is always an all or nothing subject. WHY? What is it you guys are missing Seriously. Can i use the Priest child fucking to generalize all Christians? Is that ok Can i use the Troops who have been convicted of killing and raping innocent girls in Iraq as all American troops rape and kill innocents? So to answer you, yes i can find many examples of horrific behavior by Jews Muslims Christians and Scientologest but that still does not make generalizing them not retarded. Sorry Bolas i am sure you didn't not mean it that way but i see that shit on here. Muslims all billion of them. Before anyone brings up the Quran please note the retarded shit in all religious texts and the retarded people SOME Jews Muslims and Christians who believe one must live by those words.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #57 February 2, 2015 I fully agree that every religion and ethnicity have their crazy nutbags. It just seems to me that these Sunni hard core Islamic radicals are the most brutal and repressive of all that I've ever seen. ISIS needs to be stopped at whatever cost, or it will become a world wide problem"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #58 February 2, 2015 >How does one get arrested by having 'evil intentions'? Calling someone and saying "I am going to kill you and your wife." Or planning to break into a bank, detailing the plan, getting the guns and explosives ready and then driving to the bank. They get arrested for their evil (criminal, actually) intentions. > What if the person had 'evil intentions' and they just had a circular saw without the >guard...and perhaps a nail gun. Would they still be as scary then? If he's holding that running circular saw an inch from your throat, and screaming that he will kill you? Yes, you'd probably be scared - and you'd probably support him being arrested, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #59 February 3, 2015 Darius11***Do you have any examples of Jews restricting or denying basic education of their own people? All Jews???? , All Muslims??????? Again with the ALL. Which is always my main issue. I know ISIS is nuts, I know the Talabon Suck, i know we have bad people, but the ALLLLLL There are Jewish rabbis who suck infants cocks, but i would be an ass hole to say all Jews suck infant cock. Do you understand this. Some how for most of you Muslims is always an all or nothing subject. WHY? What is it you guys are missing Seriously. Can i use the Priest child fucking to generalize all Christians? Is that ok Can i use the Troops who have been convicted of killing and raping innocent girls in Iraq as all American troops rape and kill innocents? So to answer you, yes i can find many examples of horrific behavior by Jews Muslims Christians and Scientologest but that still does not make generalizing them not retarded. Sorry Bolas i am sure you didn't not mean it that way but i see that shit on here. Muslims all billion of them. Before anyone brings up the Quran please note the retarded shit in all religious texts and the retarded people SOME Jews Muslims and Christians who believe one must live by those words. Where did Bolas say "All"? Or were you just projecting?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #60 February 3, 2015 I saw one person going off on another person with a quote that didn't fit the post. Verbal Jihad? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #61 February 5, 2015 regulator I saw one person going off on another person with a quote that didn't fit the post. Verbal Jihad? Diversionary tactic to avoid answering or addressing the question. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #62 February 5, 2015 BillyVanceI fully agree that every religion and ethnicity have their crazy nutbags. It just seems to me that these Sunni hard core Islamic radicals are the most brutal and repressive of all that I've ever seen. Hmmm. www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/lynching/lynching_2.html www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/frameset_reset.html?http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/stories/0701_0134.html www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=2&psid=3178... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #63 February 6, 2015 kallend ***I fully agree that every religion and ethnicity have their crazy nutbags. It just seems to me that these Sunni hard core Islamic radicals are the most brutal and repressive of all that I've ever seen. Hmmm. www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/lynching/lynching_2.html www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/frameset_reset.html?http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/stories/0701_0134.html www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=2&psid=3178 Read again. Before my time.... maybe you're old enough to remember some of that crap. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #64 February 6, 2015 BillyVance ******I fully agree that every religion and ethnicity have their crazy nutbags. It just seems to me that these Sunni hard core Islamic radicals are the most brutal and repressive of all that I've ever seen. Hmmm. www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/lynching/lynching_2.html www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/frameset_reset.html?http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/stories/0701_0134.html www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=2&psid=3178 Read again. Before my time.... maybe you're old enough to remember some of that crap. All you've seen of either have been pictures, so the date doesn't matter, does it. You seen pictures of lynchings and you've seen pictures of ISIS atrocities.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #65 February 6, 2015 kallend *********I fully agree that every religion and ethnicity have their crazy nutbags. It just seems to me that these Sunni hard core Islamic radicals are the most brutal and repressive of all that I've ever seen. Hmmm. www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/lynching/lynching_2.html www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/frameset_reset.html?http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/stories/0701_0134.html www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=2&psid=3178 Read again. Before my time.... maybe you're old enough to remember some of that crap. All you've seen of either have been pictures, so the date doesn't matter, does it. You seen pictures of lynchings and you've seen pictures of ISIS atrocities. Using that logic, we should still be fighting Hitler, Napoleon, Ghenghis Khan, the Crusades, etc. You do that, the rest of us will focus on current issues not resolved historical ones.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #66 February 6, 2015 Bolas ************I fully agree that every religion and ethnicity have their crazy nutbags. It just seems to me that these Sunni hard core Islamic radicals are the most brutal and repressive of all that I've ever seen. Hmmm. www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/lynching/lynching_2.html www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/frameset_reset.html?http://www.nebraskastudies.org/0700/stories/0701_0134.html www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtID=2&psid=3178 Read again. Before my time.... maybe you're old enough to remember some of that crap. All you've seen of either have been pictures, so the date doesn't matter, does it. You seen pictures of lynchings and you've seen pictures of ISIS atrocities. Using that logic, we should still be fighting Hitler, Napoleon, Ghenghis Khan, the Crusades, etc. You do that, the rest of us will focus on current issues not resolved historical ones. You have a distorted view of logic. He has no more seen ISIS atrocities than he has seen KKK atrocities.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #67 February 7, 2015 kallend You have a distorted view of logic. He has no more seen ISIS atrocities (current ongoing events) than he has seen KKK atrocities (historical). Make sense now?Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #68 February 8, 2015 Bolas*** You have a distorted view of logic. He has no more seen ISIS atrocities (current ongoing events) than he has seen KKK atrocities (historical). Make sense now? He lives in Alabama. You MIGHT just want to be more careful about your assumptions.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #69 February 10, 2015 A comparison of The Crusades to Jihad... http://youtu.be/I_To-cV94BoStupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #70 February 10, 2015 BolasA comparison of The Crusades to Jihad... http://youtu.be/I_To-cV94Bo I've watched a Bill Warner lecture before. As an engineer he may be pretty smart, but as one who recounts the historical record he is an idiot with a very blinkered view. Christians were just as savage back in the day as the invaders from the east, and he doesn't take into account the fact that medieval Europe was in a constant state of war within, too preoccupied with itself to bother anyone on the outside. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #71 February 10, 2015 masterblaster72***A comparison of The Crusades to Jihad... http://youtu.be/I_To-cV94Bo I've watched a Bill Warner lecture before. As an engineer he may be pretty smart, but as one who recounts the historical record he is an idiot with a very blinkered view. Christians were just as savage back in the day as the invaders from the east, and he doesn't take into account the fact that medieval Europe was in a constant state of war within, too preoccupied with itself to bother anyone on the outside. I was looking more at the number of battles and timelines, not his interpretations and attempts to reason the Christian ones. On those points alone, even the Medieval Jihad was far longer and more spread out than the Crusades.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #72 February 10, 2015 Bolas I was looking more at the number of battles and timelines Which is why he's a simpleton as an historian. There's a lot more than just numbers to history -- tons of context and nuances to take into account that requires years of study. He conveniently neglects to show the timelines and numbers reflecting the battles Christians waged on each other during the constant war that was medieval Europe. If he did, the conclusion would be obvious: armies in those times were simply motivated by loot and power. It's a human thing -- not a Christian/Islamic thing. If you want an interesting highly qualified historical perspective on Islam and its origins, I strongly recommend this documentary -- it's fascinating and a real eye-opener. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #73 February 10, 2015 masterblaster72 *** I was looking more at the number of battles and timelines Which is why he's a simpleton as an historian. There's a lot more than just numbers to history -- tons of context and nuances to take into account that requires years of study. He conveniently neglects to show the timelines and numbers reflecting the battles Christians waged on each other during the constant war that was medieval Europe. If he did, the conclusion would be obvious: armies in those times were simply motivated by loot and power. It's a human thing -- not a Christian/Islamic thing. If you want an interesting highly qualified historical perspective on Islam and its origins, I strongly recommend this documentary -- it's fascinating and a real eye-opener. Nor did he mention Islam on Islam battles. Only battles between Christianity and Islam, which is the focus of a Jihad or Crusade. That was an amazing documentary. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
