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Perhaps there's a good reason for stereotypes against blacks:

Quote: "In 2013 24.3% of all hate crime offenders were black. According to the last census, blacks make up 12.6% of the population. That means that blacks commit hate crimes at nearly double the rate of their population percentage."

http://reagancoalition.com/articles/2014/fbi-blacks-commit-hate-crimes-more-than-any-other-race.html?utm_source=fnot3&utm_medium=facebook

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And, interestingly enough, most blacks are treated with suspicion or something like that by whites. But apparently they shouldn't react negatively and take it personally :|

You seem to be justifying the whole DWB thing, and saying that it's OK because white people's perception is more important than black people's.

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There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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SkyMagilla

What's the one thing that all these shot-dead black men have in common? They were all assaulting armed cops.



Simply not true. Some were, some weren't.

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Isn't it funny how this thread so quickly deteriorated into calling the original messenger a racist?



A very reasonable interpretation based on his posting history.
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Bureau of Justice Statistics, see page 7, table 5, here:
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fdluc09.pdf

Blacks comprise 13% of the population and commit 57% of all murders.
White comprise 63% of the population and commit 12% of all murders.

Therefore:
Blacks commit murder at 4.4 times their proportion of the population.
Whites commit murder at .2 times their proportion of the population.

Therefore:
Blacks commit murder at a rate 22 times higher than whites.

So if you're a cop pulling over a car reported to contain a murder suspect, to which race would you respond with the most caution?

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You seem to be justifying the whole DWB thing, and saying that it's OK because white people's perception is more important than black people's.



Simply for driving? Of course that doesn't constitute suspicious behavior, and shouldn't be reason to pull them over. But if pulled over, they should be respectful and then be on their way. Belligerence is not the way to respond.

It's not about perception, it's about facts, like the ones I posted, above. It's an ugly truth that no one wants to admit or confront. But until we do, nothing will change...

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well, its been a while but that's a lot like when Yakima county got threatened with a lawsuit because the jail had over 70% Mexicans 15% whites and 10% blacks incarcerated in the jail -

RACISM!!! never mind that the Mexicans were committing the majority of the crimes and getting caught...

Yakima started trading inmates with King county to bring the stats down on what races were incarcerated...

what a weird world we live in... statistics don't lie
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Right, the assumption by some because jail populations are disproportionately represented by blacks, is that the justice system must be racist.

No, it's because blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime.

If we were to free enough black prison inmates to reduce their jail population to match their percentage of the population overall (13%), then that would require freeing huge numbers of actual dangerous criminals.

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Right, the assumption by some because jail populations are disproportionately represented by blacks, is that the justice system must be racist.

No, it's because blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime.



It's almost as if people had never heard of the concept of 'both'.

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If we were to free enough black prison inmates to reduce their jail population to match their percentage of the population overall (13%), then that would require freeing huge numbers of actual dangerous criminals.



Or a huge number of drug offenders treated overly harshly by a racist system.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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SkyMagilla

Right, the assumption by some because jail populations are disproportionately represented by blacks, is that the justice system must be racist.

No, it's because blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime.

If we were to free enough black prison inmates to reduce their jail population to match their percentage of the population overall (13%), then that would require freeing huge numbers of actual dangerous criminals.



55% of the prison population is there for drug offenses.

Sentences for drugs favored by blacks are harsher than for drugs favored by whites.

Blacks are 21% more likely than whites to receive mandatory minimum sentences and 20% more likely to be sentenced to prison than white, for the SAME offenses.

The system IS racist.
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A law is a fucking law! It has been front rolled since the late 1800's and became a regulated as a drug in the 1930's how you put race into this is fucking outrageous.

The sentences average higher for blacks because it's probably a third fourth fifth offense......due to the slap on the wrist they got on their first and second.

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Andy9o8

Merry racist Christmas everyone.



Is that where you live is Southern California (with all the immigrants) and write everyone you know to tell them you're "Dreaming of a white Christmas" lamenting how things used to be and warning others not to let the same thing happen where they are?

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Gravitymaster

Lots of people talking out of their asses. Trying to add in people in prison for drugs as a way to dilute the realities.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/murder-rate-for-black-ame_b_4702228.html



Yep.

Some people like to criticize America because its crime rates aren't as low as European nations. But America's crime rate is only so high because of the component for which blacks are responsible. If you look at only the white (non-hispanic) crime rate, it IS comparable to those European nations.

And it should also be said, that American crime is not as bad now as it has been in the past, even with black crime - we are currently at a 40-year low.

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SkyMagilla

***Lots of people talking out of their asses. Trying to add in people in prison for drugs as a way to dilute the realities.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/murder-rate-for-black-ame_b_4702228.html



Yep.

Some people like to criticize America because its crime rates aren't as low as European nations. But America's crime rate is only so high because of the component for which blacks are responsible. If you look at only the white (non-hispanic) crime rate, it IS comparable to those European nations.



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normiss

Yep.
Racist.



There are certain areas that I avoid driving or walking through. Does that make me a racist? No, I call it self-preservation from being a crime victim. And yes, the perception is there. It's a high crime area. :|
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BillyVance

***Yep.
Racist.



There are certain areas that I avoid driving or walking through. Does that make me a racist? No, I call it self-preservation from being a crime victim. And yes, the perception is there. It's a high crime area. :|

I've lived and worked on Chicago's south side for 37 years. I'll drive anywhere. I normally have no reason to walk other than near home, work and the shopping or downtown areas. In those 37 years I have not had any negative encounters.
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Gravitymaster

They also forget that some of the worst cities in the U.S for crime have a black Mayor, black Police Chief etc. Yet we are to believe they only hire racist white Cops.



So what is the percentage breakdown white/black/other for the police force and DAs office? You think it's going to be loaded towards blacks?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Iago

***Yep.
Racist.



Racism: The belief that a race is, by virtue of its genetics, inferior to another, and a member of that race cannot change the view of the racist. This doesn't mean that the racist is necessarily cruel, but simply cannot see a person of the "other" race as an equal.

Prejudice: Literally, pre-judging. Taking the measure of another without complete information. The opinion of the person who has pre-judged can be changed with additional information. Often the pre-judging is based on prior experience or the experiences of others.

Bigot: "A person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions." In other words, someone who doesn't like a person because of their thoughts.

Now, can we please start using the right words at the right times? Very little of what is, in the popular discussion, called "racist" is actually racist.

Be advised that there are all kinds of definitions. These include Lexical, Colloquial, Technical, Legal, Precising, Military, Medical and so forth.

To use multiple definitions of the same word in an argument is to engage in equivocation.

Darwin observed finches occupying a variety of roles in the Galapagos that are filled by other species elsewhere. I have noted social roles occupied by various ethnic groups in differing locales, and in each case it is difficult to separate criticism of the role from implied criticism of the ethnic group.

For example, the lower socioeconomic role that is typified by urban negroes in the USA is filled by Romana in the Balkans. The postjudice is effectively identical in both cases.

Either case is also a clear example of Mencken's principle that for every complex problem there exists a solution that is simple, elegant and wrong.


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***They also forget that some of the worst cities in the U.S for crime have a black Mayor, black Police Chief etc. Yet we are to believe they only hire racist white Cops.



So what is the percentage breakdown white/black/other for the police force and DAs office? You think it's going to be loaded towards blacks?

You are absolutely ridiculous in your thinking if you think that somehow racial parity equates to the level of racism. Or even the number of incidents or racism. By your thinking, once more blacks are in authority positions, racism against whites will escalate. Of course, unless you also believe blacks are not capable of being racists.

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Iago



Archie Bunker was a prejudiced borderline bigot. Until, of course, the Jeffersons moved in next door and changed his mind.



I freaking loved All In The Family and The Jeffersons. They were hysterical.
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