Andy9o8 0 #51 December 1, 2014 Your current icon is almost a dead-ringer of her. Maybe therein lies the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #52 December 1, 2014 Being dead honest I don't see it. No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #53 December 1, 2014 promise5 Being dead honest I don't see it. ...said the girl who also doesn't think she resembles her identical twin."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #54 December 1, 2014 CreepNo matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #55 December 1, 2014 promise5 Creep I think she likes me!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #56 December 1, 2014 ryoder ***Creep I think she likes me!Pull her pigtail and dip it in the inkwell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #57 December 1, 2014 rushmc *** Quote she is her own agent and producer. Google sez she's worked with multiple producers... ... At least she started on her own I can't even believe I've looked this up, but from the wikipedia entry for Taylor Swift (album) (the debut album of Taylor Swift) " Swift experimented with several album producers, ultimately choosing the producer of her demo album, Nathan Chapman." Quote the other woman that same show talked about was one of the three on the orgigial Charles Angels show The name's Angel, Charles Angel...Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #58 December 1, 2014 BIGUN As well as accomplished equestrian, novelist, producer and has her own perfume line. Yup. If Taylor Swift has her own perfume line, then I'd say she's no longer completely her own person - she's a brand, a commodity of the marketing machine. Image management is of course part of the process of selling records, and even 'indie' credentials are often just another way to package an artist in a way that appeals to a particular demographic. It makes for good press that she writes/ produces her own stuff, and I'm sure she has talent in spades, but the public are a fickle bunch and from here on brand presentation will be key - without it she'll lose popularity and sales for herself, her record label and all the other peripheral products carrying her name. I don't see how you can escape it. That said, I've always been sceptical of this ideal of 'artistic integrity', anyway - the notion that recording artists and their music can be categorised as 'real' or 'manufactured'. At the end of the day, the vast majority of musicians are in the business to make money, and there's nothing wrong with that in itself. The Eagles were vilified when they talked about writing commercial music in order to get rich - but to me, they were just being honest about it. I did watch a 'making of' video for one of Swift's promos a while back - I think it was the cheerleader costume that drew me in - and it seemed forced. The goofiness, the screw-up outtakes from her cheer routine... it all felt calculated to say 'look how normal and unaffected I am.' That's not to say she isn't - so far - but it must be enormously hard to cope with that degree of celebrity without letting it change you in some way. Not that it's ever likely to be a problem for me , but I try to imagine what it must be like to be under that level of scrutiny, and to get to a certain level of popularity and then fear losing it all - and I shudder. Hopefully she's too level-headed to do a 'Bieber'. Remember when he was 'normal and unaffected'? That only lasted until his ego got bigger than the ability of his press team to contain it. I don't care for Swift's music, but she's doing incredibly well and I say more power to her and her people. As long as she's selling records in huge numbers, then they're only doing their job. I just find it insulting that we are now expected to lap up everything that has Taylor Swift's name on it - why anybody would choose a perfume because it is 'by' their favourite singer-songwriter is beyond me. Oh, wait... it's because 'Unlike the first two, which were inspired by fairy tales, Taylor fragrance is more personal to the singer because it reflects her own style.' Gawd help us... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kadde 0 #59 December 3, 2014 When ones name is that big this isnt really much work or skill effort. I personally wouldnt put to much effort in most of the awards, they are about as thoughtfull as the nobel peaceprice is most cases. Sure she probably has alot of listeners but sold albums might just be because the listerners are so young that thier parents accually have to go and buy the record. Im pretty sure she cant really be considered the biggest artist out there, but maybe she really is that big in the US. Personally (again) i dont know a single person listening to her. (Or even heard of anyone who does tbh) She feels like a brand name as someone stated allready and she is probably offered more deals then she creates herself. (People love to make money on kids who easily builds a great passion for one artist) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #60 December 3, 2014 KaddeWhen ones name is that big this isnt really much work or skill effort. I personally wouldnt put to much effort in most of the awards, they are about as thoughtfull as the nobel peaceprice is most cases. Sure she probably has alot of listeners but sold albums might just be because the listerners are so young that thier parents accually have to go and buy the record. Im pretty sure she cant really be considered the biggest artist out there, but maybe she really is that big in the US. Personally (again) i dont know a single person listening to her. (Or even heard of anyone who does tbh) She feels like a brand name as someone stated allready and she is probably offered more deals then she creates herself. (People love to make money on kids who easily builds a great passion for one artist) I don't disagree. However when you compare Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift, there are certainly some differences. Not all those differences relate to PR and Marketing. Some of those relate to class, personality and character in my opinion. And no, I am not a fan, nor do I care for her music. But, I can appreciate what she is accomplishing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #61 December 10, 2014 Interesting stuff about the music industry. www.trueactivist.com/need-more-proof-that-the-music-industry-is-fake-here-you-go/?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=mam&utm_campaign=mam I don't think Autotune existed when the Beatles were performing.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texbubba 0 #62 January 19, 2016 promise5Not to be a snot. But you consider EVERY person attractive and you LIKE everyone? If it says I'm honest then yes I am. Sorry if I hit a nerve with not liking her and considering her unattractive. "So casually cruel in the name of being honest." T.S. - All Too Well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texbubba 0 #63 January 19, 2016 ibxI only have one problem with her. She is a greedy fucking bitch. 6 million dollars a year is not enough for her to put her music spotify. This deprives lots of fans of her music and shines a bad light on streaming services in general which should undeniably be the future of media consumption. I say again, FUCK HER and her greedy ilk. I bet you are not willing to do whatever work you do for free. Tell your boss that you don't want a paycheck because youn want your work to go out to the masses for free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellbender 0 #64 January 20, 2016 ibxI only have one problem with her. She is a greedy fucking bitch. News: "Taylor Swift Charity" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/taylor-swift-charity/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #65 January 20, 2016 QuoteI bet you are not willing to do whatever work you do for free. Tell your boss that you don't want a paycheck because youn want your work to go out to the masses for free. So 6 million dollars per year is working for free in your world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texbubba 0 #66 January 20, 2016 ibxQuoteI bet you are not willing to do whatever work you do for free. Tell your boss that you don't want a paycheck because youn want your work to go out to the masses for free. So 6 million dollars per year is working for free in your world... Damn. Your boss is going to love not having to write that $6 million check of yours. lol :p Got something besides liberal, socialist strawman? BTW....she makes a lot more, a really lot more, than $6 million per year. I do believe that you are just jealous of anyone making more than your self-subscribed limit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #67 January 20, 2016 QuoteBTW....she makes a lot more, a really lot more, than $6 million per year. I do believe that you are just jealous of anyone making more than your self-subscribed limit. Really you genius, did you even read my original comment? The 6 million is only for the streaming rights for spotify. That is also what my comment is about. I do not think an artist with who is so successful should deny people her music because she feels $6mio is not enough money... Further - I believe flat rates for media access should be the future. Taylor Swift's greed is hindering fair media distribution for the people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texbubba 0 #68 January 20, 2016 ibxQuoteBTW....she makes a lot more, a really lot more, than $6 million per year. I do believe that you are just jealous of anyone making more than your self-subscribed limit. Really you genius, did you even read my original comment? The 6 million is only for the streaming rights for spotify. That is also what my comment is about. I do not think an artist with who is so successful should deny people her music because she feels $6mio is not enough money... Further - I believe flat rates for media access should be the future. Taylor Swift's greed is hindering fair media distribution for the people. You missed the sarcasm but thanks for the personal attack anyway. I think the mistake you are making is that you are viewing the issue as a Spotify vs Swift issue instead of what Ms Swift was actually doing. She was the front man for every musician that was not going to get paid for their product. Spotify was not going to pay the musicians for the 3-month period of free access being offered. Her efforts provided for income for every music producer in Spotify's realm. We differ - I believe that one should be compensated for whatever work they do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #69 January 20, 2016 QuoteYou missed the sarcasm but thanks for the personal attack anyway. I think the mistake you are making is that you are viewing the issue as a Spotify vs Swift issue instead of what Ms Swift was actually doing. She was the front man for every musician that was not going to get paid for their product. Spotify was not going to pay the musicians for the 3-month period of free access being offered. Her efforts provided for income for every music producer in Spotify's realm. We differ - I believe that one should be compensated for whatever work they do.  Sarcasm is inherently hard to do via text... Either use the sarcasm tag /s, or say what you mean. Once again you are talking about stuff you know nothing about. The 3 months controversy was with itunes, not with spotify. Ms Swift and her management are simply using her popularity to fuck consumers.... Just as Adele did recently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texbubba 0 #70 January 20, 2016 My error on the Spotify vs iTunes. OK...wanting to make money on the product you produce is using 'popularity to fuck consumers'. We differ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #71 January 20, 2016 ibxQuoteYou missed the sarcasm but thanks for the personal attack anyway. I think the mistake you are making is that you are viewing the issue as a Spotify vs Swift issue instead of what Ms Swift was actually doing. She was the front man for every musician that was not going to get paid for their product. Spotify was not going to pay the musicians for the 3-month period of free access being offered. Her efforts provided for income for every music producer in Spotify's realm. We differ - I believe that one should be compensated for whatever work they do.  Sarcasm is inherently hard to do via text... Either use the sarcasm tag /s, or say what you mean. Once again you are talking about stuff you know nothing about. The 3 months controversy was with itunes, not with spotify. Ms Swift and her management are simply using her popularity to fuck consumers.... Just as Adele did recently. I suggest you put your own album out so you can give it out for a more reasonable price. While you are at it, go ahead and take a large pay cut at your work. You make too much money anyway. All your efforts at work should go to people that don't want to pay you do do something.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #72 March 6, 2016 ryoderHmmm... Uh oh.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
