FB1609 0 #26 June 23, 2014 I have a drone, but yeah I want one that drops bombs too. No wonder people are getting annoyed with them, I use mine only to shoot beautiful footage of nature. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,622 #27 June 23, 2014 FB1609I have a drone, but yeah I want one that drops bombs too. No wonder people are getting annoyed with them, I use mine only to shoot beautiful footage of nature. I got some great shots of Glacier National Park with mine (BEFORE the NPS outlawed them).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #28 June 24, 2014 kallend, to steer this in a technical direction, would you agree that Lipo technology and pwr/weight still have a long way to go before a weapon can be ziptied to a gimble and flown for any useful period of time? I've messed with, and scratch built a few quads. I'd need a horse-choke budget to come up with something that could fly to a "riot",hold,RTH, all while carrying (basically) a handgun? your thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #29 June 24, 2014 loumeinhartkallend, to steer this in a technical direction, would you agree that Lipo technology and pwr/weight still have a long way to go before a weapon can be ziptied to a gimble and flown for any useful period of time? I've messed with, and scratch built a few quads. I'd need a horse-choke budget to come up with something that could fly to a "riot",hold,RTH, all while carrying (basically) a handgun? your thoughts? Some of the specialist multi rotors for filming have pretty impressive specs don't they? Sure they are expensive, but it's all relative.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #30 June 24, 2014 loumeinhartkallend, to steer this in a technical direction, would you agree that Lipo technology and pwr/weight still have a long way to go before a weapon can be ziptied to a gimble and flown for any useful period of time? I've messed with, and scratch built a few quads. I'd need a horse-choke budget to come up with something that could fly to a "riot",hold,RTH, all while carrying (basically) a handgun? your thoughts? Think lightweight composites for the weapon.. drastic weight reduction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #31 June 24, 2014 loumeinhartkallend, to steer this in a technical direction, would you agree that Lipo technology and pwr/weight still have a long way to go before a weapon can be ziptied to a gimble and flown for any useful period of time? I've messed with, and scratch built a few quads. I'd need a horse-choke budget to come up with something that could fly to a "riot",hold,RTH, all while carrying (basically) a handgun? your thoughts? I've done some work in the film industry (airborne cinematography) and worked with big hex and octocopters, with custom built aircraft a 10lb payload and 5min flight time is no sweat. With a larger budget, upwards of 20lb payload and longer range is very doable. Also, a 'riot drone' would probably be launched on sight, not scrambled from a different location. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,391 #32 June 24, 2014 >kallend, to steer this in a technical direction, would you agree that Lipo technology >and pwr/weight still have a long way to go before a weapon can be ziptied to a >gimble and flown for any useful period of time? Law enforcement/military drones won't use Lipos, they will tend to rely primarily on higher energy density fuels (like nitromethane, diesel, gasoline etc.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #33 June 24, 2014 quadeIn your posts it appears as if you're fine with the idea as long as everyone has access to it. I'm saying nobody in the civilian world should have access to anything with this much potential for abuse. Would outlawing it stop a determined person from making their own? No. Probably not. However, unless you make manufacture or possession of such a device illegal, you just open up assassination as a "hobby." Again, not just to folks like you and me but to virtually anyone including that neighbor down the street who doesn't like how you dive on "his" street in front of his kids to the guy you're in competition with at work to any government jerk with a grudge. Looks like an instance with a possible creepiness factor was flying today here in Seattle.... http://www.king5.com/news/cities/seattle/Seattle-peeping-drone-outside-apartment-264334721.html?c=n&fb=y&can=n If you want privacy.... it will be a lot harder going forward... All I have to say is...... PULL.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #34 June 24, 2014 And now Desert Wolf, the company who brought you the Skunk, Riot Control Drone brings you, MOZZY, the Wildlife Darting Copter. http://www.desert-wolf.com/dw/products/unmanned-aerial-systems/mozzy-wildlife-darting-copter.html So . . . "darting."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #35 June 24, 2014 I'm almost in the mood here to make a future-bet. What do we think the over/under is on first human kill by a small drone*? 3 years? *Obviously there have been thousands over the last decade by the large military ones in the middle east, but that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about small(isn) multi-rotor use with some sort of ballistic projectile.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #36 June 24, 2014 quadeI'm almost in the mood here to make a future-bet. What do we think the over/under is on first human kill by a small drone*? 3 years? *Obviously there have been thousands over the last decade by the large military ones in the middle east, but that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about small(isn) multi-rotor use with some sort of ballistic projectile. I would bet on a small explosive.. up close and personal.. it does not take a lot of the good stuff. It would probably piss off the alphabet agencies big time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #37 June 24, 2014 Amazon***I'm almost in the mood here to make a future-bet. What do we think the over/under is on first human kill by a small drone*? 3 years? *Obviously there have been thousands over the last decade by the large military ones in the middle east, but that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about small(isn) multi-rotor use with some sort of ballistic projectile. I would bet on a small explosive.. up close and personal.. it does not take a lot of the good stuff. It would probably piss off the alphabet agencies big time. ^This. It would be a hell of a lot easier to put a small anti-personnel "device" on a small quadcopter than to mount a gun. It takes away all the aiming difficulties, all the recoil difficulties. It takes away some of the anonymity because the remains of the device will provide a lot of evidence for law enforcement, but the overall level of difficulty of hanging an hand grenade on a drone and getting close enough to the intended target to ensure a kill is alarmingly low. I think 3 years is a good guess. I wouldn't bet on it happening here or overseas first though. And I'd bet very heavily that the high level security people (Secret Service and similar) are already on top of this sort of thing and have detectors and jammers to counter them."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #38 June 24, 2014 QuoteWhat do we think the over/under is on first human kill by a small drone*? 3 years? If your theory on lack of traceability is correct, how do we know it's not already happening? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #39 June 24, 2014 DanGQuoteWhat do we think the over/under is on first human kill by a small drone*? 3 years? If your theory on lack of traceability is correct, how do we know it's not already happening? Pretty sure the traceability pertains to perpetrator not victim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #40 June 24, 2014 Quoteballistic projectile. Pfft! Caveman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #41 June 24, 2014 QuotePretty sure the traceability pertains to perpetrator not victim. It also refers to method. Every unsolved gun murder is a potential drone strike. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites