jakee 1,254 #26 February 24, 2014 RonD1120******I believe in faith healing. I also believe in faith physicians. This is an example of people trying to put God in a box and limiting what He can and will do. Are you suggesting that a person can limit God's power? No, I am suggesting that some folks think that God only operates in their concepts. People that deny the use of Christian physicians are denying God's grace and mercy in the field of medicine. What about people who deny the use of non-christian physicians? Do you believe in non-faith physicians?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #27 February 24, 2014 jakee *********I believe in faith healing. I also believe in faith physicians. This is an example of people trying to put God in a box and limiting what He can and will do. Are you suggesting that a person can limit God's power? No, I am suggesting that some folks think that God only operates in their concepts. People that deny the use of Christian physicians are denying God's grace and mercy in the field of medicine. What about people who deny the use of non-christian physicians? Do you believe in non-faith physicians? Of course! Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #28 February 24, 2014 RonD1120You have stated this on several occasions. Why would such feat be necessary? Think about all the Christians who design and manufacture prosthetics. What would they do to earn a living? that's bit of a twisted socialistic "we're all insiders" type of view of religion don't you think? or were you be wry and funny? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #29 March 10, 2014 QuoteI believe in faith healing. I also believe in faith physicians. This is an example of people trying to put God in a box and limiting what He can and will do. As do I Ron, Good post. I'm thinking a lot of people just can't come to terms that there is a higher power other than them selves. Me I surrendered, repented of my sins and was cleansed by the blood. No one comes to the Father, except it be through the son Jesus, God's son. QuoteJohn 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Best- Richard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #30 March 10, 2014 We do not know everything, we still have so much to learn .. but imaginary all powerful beings .. come on get real. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #31 March 10, 2014 shropshire We do not know everything, we still have so much to learn .. but imaginary all powerful beings .. come on get real. Imaginary? Real? This is getting complex.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #32 March 10, 2014 kallend ***We do not know everything, we still have so much to learn .. but imaginary all powerful beings .. come on get real. Imaginary? Real? This is getting complex. i ..... it is. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #33 March 10, 2014 shropshire ******We do not know everything, we still have so much to learn .. but imaginary all powerful beings .. come on get real. Imaginary? Real? This is getting complex. i ..... it is. What gets me is, why would anyone who vehemently professes to allow everyone any way of life they want, begrudge, so profusely, a mans religious belief and faith. Seems pretty hypocritical to me.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #34 March 10, 2014 kallend ***We do not know everything, we still have so much to learn .. but imaginary all powerful beings .. come on get real. Imaginary? Real? This is getting complex. only 5 numbers truly exist, the rest are just contrived from the base - strangely enough, there were also 5 lead cylons as well. coincidence? 0, 1, e, pi, i ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomerdog 0 #35 March 10, 2014 I had this conversation years ago with a priest. He said it's perfectly OK to pray for a miracle to heal the toothache or sickness. But it's better if that prayer were made enroute to the dentist or the physician. Too often, we forget that the miracles we seek are staring us right in the face. QuoteA large number of Christians think exactly that. Both Catholics and fundamentalists come immediately to mind. Hmmmm...Catholics and Evangleical Fundamentalist have common beliefs about miracles with some differences. I won't speak for the latter but as for the former, encourage you and everyone else interested here to inquire on Catholic websites and read the specific position of the Catholic Chruch on the matter of miracles. As for "imposing" my Catholic views, not gonna happen...just curious to know whether opinions versus the factual positions of the Catholic Church are consistent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #36 March 10, 2014 rehmwa ******We do not know everything, we still have so much to learn .. but imaginary all powerful beings .. come on get real. Imaginary? Real? This is getting complex. only 5 numbers truly exist, the rest are just contrived from the base - strangely enough, there were also 5 lead cylons as well. coincidence? 0, 1, e, pi, i And the Sleestacks . . . you can't forget the Sleestacks!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #37 March 10, 2014 rehmwa ******We do not know everything, we still have so much to learn .. but imaginary all powerful beings .. come on get real. Imaginary? Real? This is getting complex. only 5 numbers truly exist, the rest are just contrived from the base - strangely enough, there were also 5 lead cylons as well. coincidence? 0, 1, e, pi, i And you get the neatest identity using all of them: (e^i*pi) +1 = 0... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #38 March 10, 2014 BoomerdogI had this conversation years ago with a priest. He said it's perfectly OK to pray for a miracle to heal the toothache or sickness. But it's better if that prayer were made enroute to the dentist or the physician. Too often, we forget that the miracles we seek are staring us right in the face. QuoteA large number of Christians think exactly that. Both Catholics and fundamentalists come immediately to mind. Hmmmm...Catholics and Evangleical Fundamentalist have common beliefs about miracles with some differences. I won't speak for the latter but as for the former, encourage you and everyone else interested here to inquire on Catholic websites and read the specific position of the Catholic Chruch on the matter of miracles. As for "imposing" my Catholic views, not gonna happen...just curious to know whether opinions versus the factual positions of the Catholic Church are consistent. Does the Catholic church lobby governments for support of its position on, say, birth control and abortion?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomerdog 0 #40 March 10, 2014 QuoteDoes the Catholic church lobby governments for support of its position on, say, birth control and abortion? Stick to the subject. If you want to ask that question, develop another thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #41 March 10, 2014 Amazon But... but..... GOD created man in his image... and since Jesus was his son.... and one of those swarthy Mediterranean Near Eastern types... just think how surprised some of our less than accepting of diversity posters are going to be... "Although he was a Jew, Jesus was an Ranger too." Heard that in Ranger School.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #42 March 10, 2014 turtlespeed What gets me is, why would anyone who vehemently professes to allow everyone any way of life they want, begrudge, so profusely, a mans religious belief and faith. Seems pretty hypocritical to me. I don't begrudge a man his faith. Anyone is entirely welcome to believe in anything they feel is "right." Up until they insist on others believing the same thing, or start hurting people."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,621 #43 March 10, 2014 *** No, I am suggesting that some folks think that God only operates in their concepts. kallend A large number of Christians think exactly that. Both Catholics and fundamentalists come immediately to mind. (And in the interest of fairness, fundamentalist Muslims also come to mind). I give a pass to ultra orthodox Jews, who for the most part don't try to impose their views on others (except in the occupied territories). BoomerdogQuoteDoes the Catholic church lobby governments for support of its position on, say, birth control and abortion? Stick to the subject. If you want to ask that question, develop another thread. Restored the context that you snipped. If you can't see the relevance, it reflects poorly on you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
