To vaccinate or not to vaccinate?

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Why are you swallowing the claims of Big Pot without questioning them? They don't want you to be cured. Heck, they want you to stay sick so they make more money!

Pot, kills pharma profit.

here is one example of MANY.

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Hi, My name's Corrie (Yelland). I'm 55 years old. In May of 2007, I had a heart attack and subsequently had a double bypass. As a result of the heart surgery, for 4 plus years, I have been plagued with chronic debilitating pain from a maligned sternum and post sternotomy neuralgia/syndrome. I was ingesting copious amounts of various pain killers 24/7. They barely touched the pain. I spent my days in agony, waiting for evening so I could try to sleep. I took sleeping pills nightly in a futile attempt to escape the hell I was going through and failed miserably. Within 2 hours of taking the pills, I would awake in agony.

Fast forward to July of 2011. Already coping with 2 spots of skin cancer on my collar bone, I was stunned when I was diagnosed with Anal Canal Cancer. (This is the same cancer that took Farrah Fawcett's life.) Following 2 surgeries, the doctor told me they did not get all the cancer and I would have to endure a regime of radiation treatments. I started researching what this would entail, and attended a intake meeting at the Cancer Clinic. I was informed that "this is the worst area of of the body to radiate", the radiation beam would hit both my coccyx and pubic bone potentially causing permanent damage." They would try not to hit my spine. - Additionally, I would suffer 2nd and 3rd degree burns vaginally, rectally, across my buttocks, as well as my entire "nether regions", and there was a "good possibility" both my vagina and rectum would fuse shut from the burns and subsequent scaring.

The list of both short and long term side effects was endless and horrendous, but you get the gist. I told the doctor, I needed time to think about it. His response was hostile, as he told me I had 2-4 months, possibly 6. He murmured something abut a "death wish" and walked out. One day someone sent me Rick Simpson's video, Run From The Cure. It took me days to get around to watching it, but when I did I was blown away. Here was this man, a seemingly super straight small town Nova Scotian, talking about these amazing results he had seen with in himself and other people taking Cannabis and curing themselves of a myriad of diseases including end stage cancers.
After hearing what Rick had to say, and watching the testimonials in the video, I was feeling some hope for the first time. For 2 weeks I did nothing but research cannabis as a medicine. I was stunned by the sheer number of studies on Pub Med indicating that cannabis indeed has the capacity to heal. I started using cannabis 2 months ago as per Rick Simpson's protocol from his video. (He recommends starting out small, and slowly upping the dose so ones' body becomes accustomed to it, without being high constantly. As a person who hasn't smoked pot since my late teens, early 20's, the non high aspect appealed to me). I had huge hopes to cure my cancer, and embarked on my fight to live.

As well as ingesting the cannabis oil, I topically applied it to 2 spots of skin cancer on my collar bone. Within 48 hours, there were visible changes. In just over a week, the 2 spots were completely gone. Elated, I continued ingesting the oil, in hopes it would work on the other cancer attacking my body. Nothing prepared me for what happened next. About 2 weeks into my regime, the pain in my sternum, as well as the nerve pain had become almost non existent.
You have to understand, I had resigned myself to a life sentence of pain and agony. It had been 4 years of pain that was with me 24/7 and never, in my wildest dreams, did I imagine I would be pain free ever again. I was able to stand up straight, the jolting pain so intense that it would cause me to cry out, ceased completely. I started to sleep through the night and stopped taking sleeping pills. I saw one of my doctors a couple of weeks ago and was thrilled to hear he believes there is a decrease in both the size and number of tumors. I know in my heart it is only a matter of time before I will be completely cured. Even the most - skeptical of my friends comment on the visible changes in me. I have evolved from a pain wracked, hunched over, shuffling along individual, to a vibrant, high energy person. Even my complexion has improved.

Before I started using cannabis, I typically took 10-15 Tylenol 3 a day, along with a smorgasbord of other drugs. Now, in a 24 hour period, a half a Tylenol 3 is all I need. I think it's understandable when I say I get very emotional when I think of how far I've come. Not only has cannabis changed my life, it is SAVING my life.

When researching, I met a woman in Texas diagnosed with the same cancer that I have. Diagnosed at the same time, we felt fortunate to have found each other, as we were identical in every aspect. I. E. same age, same diagnostic procedure, same stage of the cancer with radiation recommended as treatment. She chose to have the radiation. I'm very sad to tell you she died 2 weeks ago, as a result of infection from radiation burns. She left behind a husband and 12 year old daughter. The above was written (March 2012) I continued ingesting the oil on a daily basis, slowly, ever so slowly increasing the amount I was taking. As well, I began filling gelatin capsules with a mixture of the cannabis oil and olive oil and inserting them rectally (Here are instructions for making cannabis oil suppositories). I thought to myself, if the oil worked being applied directly to skin cancers, wounds etc. why wouldn't it work there? Get it closer to the source, get it closer to the problem area. At the end of May, I saw the doctor who first discovered my cancer. I was in the operating room for a non related problem. At the time, I was told he could no longer manually or visually detect any cancer. Elated, for the first time I dared to hope, that maybe, just MAYBE the cannabis oil was working.

Because the cancer was not this particular doctor's area of expertise, I was hesitant to become too excited. I was no longer taking any pain killers and found myself thinking that if all the cannabis did was to hold it at bay, I would consider myself lucky. On September 20, 2012, I saw my specialist/surgeon, whom I had not seen for approximately 6 months. He examined me once, then a second time, and then a third time. My heart was pounding so loudly I could hear the whooshing in my ears. And then the news I had only dared to hope for. "It's gone! I can't find anything at all. If it wasn't for the scar tissue I would never have known you had ever had cancer." I was shaking, looking at him in disbelief. Tears streaming down my face, I hugged him mumbling, "thank you, thank you." He looked at me, "No, Thank YOU! You're the one that did this. You DID it Corrie! You pulled it off, you pulled it off! No doctor, CANNABIS OIL and I pulled it off! I received confirmation that the cancer is well and truly 100% confirmed to be gone.

I suggest you watch this video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn9eTC1mNTk

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The toll of the anti-vaccination movement, in one devastating graphic



http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-antivaccination-movement-20140120,0,5576371.story#ixzz2sNgIVPHE

This is an interesting article with corresponding studies showing that the whooping cough vaccine appears to have become redundant.

The CDC and FDA have known for almost a year that this vaccine does not work. The media sure promoted the 'fact' that those that decided not to vaccinate were to blame when the entire time the vaccine was simply not working.

To this day this vaccine is being administered creating massive revenue.

This surely shows that the whole vaccine thing is not as cut an dried as some have made it out to be.

http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/why-is-the-cdc-and-fda-still-recommending-the-failed-whopping-cough-vaccine/

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2013 was the year the CDC and FDA finally admitted there were problems with the pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine.

When cases of whooping cough spiked in 2012, the media and medical community was quick to rush in and blame unvaccinated children. The data, however, could not support that claim.

In 2013, there were two major research papers published documenting the failure of the pertussis vaccine. I don’t believe the first one, published in early 2013, received any mainstream media exposure at all, while the second one, later in the year, was back-page news. However, both of these studies should have been headline stories.

The first study reported in early 2013 that researchers had found the first U.S. evidence of vaccine-resistant pertussis. The same phenomenon had been observed in other countries, and research showing that pertussis was developing immunity against the current pertussis vaccine being given to children should have made headline news. But of course, it did not...

...And if one is tempted to think that those who manufacture these vaccines would never keep a defective product on the market knowingly, think again. Twenty percent of all white collar corporate crime is now committed in the pharmaceutical industry, with every major vaccine manufacturer now a convicted criminal. A recent editorial written in the British Medical Journal chronicled how the fines levied against this criminal activity is not sufficient enough to prohibit the companies from continuing to act like criminals. (See: BMJ: Escalating Criminal Behavior by Pharmaceutical Companies due to Insufficient Penalties)

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cryptocoin

Twenty percent of all white collar corporate crime is now committed in the pharmaceutical industry,

man...the BS detector went off the charts with these excerpts. Poorly cited in general, which makes it difficult to accept anything stated.

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man...the BS detector went off the charts with these excerpts. Poorly cited in general, which makes it difficult to accept anything stated.

explain?

[kelpdiver 2]

it looks like you're citing liars. That writing is as compelling as 9/11 denier bullshit.

[normiss 622]

This.

[yoink 321]

So I just got a call from San Diego public health.

One of the girls we share our office space with has just been diagnosed with TB. Apparently she never got vaccinated.

I got vaccinated as a kid, but everybody else in here who didn't is at now at risk and panicking. Good job guys. Bet you wish you'd got the vaccine now. Way to spread an entirely preventable illness. Idiots.

[jakee 1,254]

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I got vaccinated as a kid, but everybody else in here who didn't is at now at risk and panicking. Good job guys. Bet you wish you'd got the vaccine now. Way to spread an entirely preventable illness. Idiots.

Easy fix, get some farmers round and have them culled. Job done

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Snowwhite

Why would you even ask? Polio? Gone! Smallpox? GONE! Have you ever met anyone who had suffered through these diseases? I have met people who had them 60 years ago, and STILL have serious health issues, deformities and everyday problems, because they didn't have a 5 minute vaccination option when they were children.

My uncle died from complications from Polio. He would have been born in the mid 40s (My dad was born in 1940 and it was his younger brother). He contracted Polio as a child. He spent a large part of his childhood in a Sanitarium where my dad and his parents and brother would go visit him ever few weeks. He had a severely deformed back and one arm that he only had minimal use of.

He died at 42.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[GeorgiaDon 340]

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One of the girls we share our office space with has just been diagnosed with TB. Apparently she never got vaccinated.

I got vaccinated as a kid...

AFAIK, the TB vaccine has never been approved for use in the US. I know there was/is a vaccine that was used in other countries. It's actually an issue for immigrants, as they will give a positive TB scratch test if they were vaccinated, and then they have to go through a lot to demonstrate they are not infected before they can be cleared for the visa or green card.

Don

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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)

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GeorgiaDon

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One of the girls we share our office space with has just been diagnosed with TB. Apparently she never got vaccinated.

I got vaccinated as a kid...

AFAIK, the TB vaccine has never been approved for use in the US. I know there was/is a vaccine that was used in other countries. It's actually an issue for immigrants, as they will give a positive TB scratch test if they were vaccinated, and then they have to go through a lot to demonstrate they are not infected before they can be cleared for the visa or green card.

Don

Hardly a lot - I just had it done for my green card.

A small jab and then go back in 2 days to get it read. If positive then a chest x-ray to confirm it's a reaction to the vaccine rather than the live virus.

Mine didn't even give that.

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GeorgiaDon

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One of the girls we share our office space with has just been diagnosed with TB. Apparently she never got vaccinated.

I got vaccinated as a kid...

AFAIK, the TB vaccine has never been approved for use in the US. I know there was/is a vaccine that was used in other countries. It's actually an issue for immigrants, as they will give a positive TB scratch test if they were vaccinated, and then they have to go through a lot to demonstrate they are not infected before they can be cleared for the visa or green card.

this was my understanding on the subject as well. I guess the greedy evil Pharma overlords took the day off?

[billvon 2,391]

>Pot, kills pharma profit.

Pot growers want money just as much as any other industry. (And given that they have demonstrated they are willing to kill to get that profit, I wouldn't be so blindly trusting.)

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billvon

>Pot, kills pharma profit.

Pot growers want money just as much as any other industry. (And given that they have demonstrated they are willing to kill to get that profit, I wouldn't be so blindly trusting.)

Then there's the work the legal/illegal growers did against the CA initiative a few years ago.

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billvon

>There is already a (Natural and easily self medicated) cure/medication for most
>cancers, Pfizer (and the likes) cannot make money from that so they try to
>synthesize what is thought to be the active ingredients and try to flog that off
>instead.

Why are you swallowing the claims of Big Pot without questioning them? They don't want you to be cured. Heck, they want you to stay sick so they make more money!

I'm glad I pop in every now and then to read Bill's funnies!

There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

[cryptocoin 0]

That type of flawed thinking is what hold integrity back.

If one person or a group of people in one faction is wrong or makes a mistake then that whole faction is incorrect?

I clearly stated there were studies, How one chose to report them does not in any way remove any credibility from those studies.

This is very significant when one is looking into vaccines.

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Feb 7, 2013 (CIDRAP News) – Researchers in other countries have found evidence that circulating strains of Bordetella pertussis have adapted to the acellular vaccine, and researchers today reported similar findings for the first time in US kids, based on genetic analysis of isolates from hospitalized children.

Infectious disease experts have been eyeing waning immunity from acellular pertussis vaccines as a contributor to increasing numbers of cases of pertussis (whooping cough) in several countries, and evidence is mounting that another factor fueling the outbreaks could be that the bacteria are adapting to the vaccine.

The US researchers, including a scientist from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), described their findings in a letter in the New England Journal of Medicine.

So far, lab studies in Japan, France, and Finland have identified variants of B pertussis that are negative for pertactin, a virulence factor and an outer membrane protein that promotes adhesion to tracheal epithelial cells. Pertactin purified from B pertussis is a key component of the acellular pertussis vaccine.

Many countries switched from the whole-cell pertussis vaccine to the acellular version in the late 1990s because of a fairly high rate of minor side effects in the whole-cell vaccine. However, in the face of rising pertussis levels, surveillance studies in the United States and other countries are finding a gap in protection in children who received doses of acellular vaccine. The CDC has said that pertussis cases are at their highest point since 1955.

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

I asked a while back if you understood how vaccines actually work.
You had made a couple comments that made me wonder.

The post above answers that question very clearly.

There are enough fundamental factual errors about vaccines and how they work in that quote that it's pretty clear you don't have any idea.

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

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cryptocoin

That type of flawed thinking is what hold integrity back.

If one person or a group of people in one faction is wrong or makes a mistake then that whole faction is incorrect?

I clearly stated there were studies, How one chose to report them does not in any way remove any credibility from those studies.

"Saying there are studies" and then choosing to vaguely report them generally points to lying. The protocols around citation weren't created by assholes, they were created to deal with assholes.

It can be simple laziness, but it is fair to doubt the integrity of the writer, particularly when they are railing against conventions.

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www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/02/vaccine-exemptions-states-pertussis-map

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Very interesting: http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/03/the-toxins-that-threaten-our-brains/284466/

[billvon 2,391]

On the same page:

"Dr. David Perlmutter is not joking when he says that carbohydrates, even the whole-grain carbs that many of us think of as the good ones, are the cause of almost every modern neurologic malady. That includes dementia, decreased libido, depression, chronic headaches, anxiety, epilepsy, and ADHD."

It just goes to show you - everything gives you cancer. On the plus side, if any carbohydrates can give you ADHD and autism, then we can stop with the vaccination scares.

[normiss 622]

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!


Hopefully not today.

[normiss 622]

Or maybe new outbreaks will help stop the scare.

[Remster 24]

Meanwhile, in science:

http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pcbi.1003518

Remster

[SkyDekker 1,121]

Remster

Meanwhile, in science:

http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pcbi.1003518

Fuck science, all hail to truthiness you can feel in your belly.