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Obama's "Abwehr" Has Gotten The Attention of Hollywood.

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http://minutemennews.com/2013/10/echoes-impeachment-nsa-scandal/ It's all about watching us, and not a word about spying on our allies in Europe or elsewhere. Wonder who he hasn't spied on.

I guess silence from the European skydiving community means it's OK, and we should relax. After all, this isn't 1939.
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http://minutemennews.com/2013/10/echoes-impeachment-nsa-scandal/ It's all about watching us, and not a word about spying on our allies in Europe or elsewhere. Wonder who he hasn't spied on.

I guess silence from the European skydiving community means it's OK, and we should relax. After all, this isn't 1939.



Do you REALLY believe this only started in January 2009?

If so, I have a very nice bridge for sale, cheap.
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***http://minutemennews.com/2013/10/echoes-impeachment-nsa-scandal/ It's all about watching us, and not a word about spying on our allies in Europe or elsewhere. Wonder who he hasn't spied on.

I guess silence from the European skydiving community means it's OK, and we should relax. After all, this isn't 1939.



Do you REALLY believe this only started in January 2009?

If so, I have a very nice bridge for sale, cheap.Nope, but did you bother opening up the source? Greater President's have fallen for less than this, and why is this so apparent under this administration. Is it the newer technology, or is he more paranoid than his predecessors? It's both, and he's daring the American public to say something. If you think he's in control of the country, I don't have a bridge to sell you, but I do have a couple of tickets on the Queen Mary to sell (better than the Titanic).
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If you think he's in control of the country, I don't have a bridge to sell you, but I do have a couple of tickets on the Queen Mary to sell (better than the Titanic).



So he can have a pleasant cruise?

As comebacks go it's kinda lacking in edge, don't ya think?
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***http://minutemennews.com/2013/10/echoes-impeachment-nsa-scandal/ It's all about watching us, and not a word about spying on our allies in Europe or elsewhere. Wonder who he hasn't spied on.

I guess silence from the European skydiving community means it's OK, and we should relax. After all, this isn't 1939.



Do you REALLY believe this only started in January 2009?

If so, I have a very nice bridge for sale, cheap.

Started earlier. But it sure as hell has been perfected.

It's pretty unfortunate that "blame Bush" doesn't work when the present administration is doing it. It just sucked when Bush did it, right? Nowadays, it's being overseen by a dude with a Nobel Peace Prize! He's doing it for you and me.

And if people like Merckel don't know what's good for her abd her country, then there's nothing we can do about that.


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******http://minutemennews.com/2013/10/echoes-impeachment-nsa-scandal/ It's all about watching us, and not a word about spying on our allies in Europe or elsewhere. Wonder who he hasn't spied on.

I guess silence from the European skydiving community means it's OK, and we should relax. After all, this isn't 1939.



Do you REALLY believe this only started in January 2009?

If so, I have a very nice bridge for sale, cheap.

Started earlier. But it sure as hell has been perfected.

It's pretty unfortunate that "blame Bush" doesn't work when the present administration is doing it. It just sucked when Bush did it, right? Nowadays, it's being overseen by a dude with a Nobel Peace Prize! He's doing it for you and me.

And if people like Merckel don't know what's good for her abd her country, then there's nothing we can do about that.

J. Edgar Hoover started it, spying on Hollywood types and the Kennedy's! :D How can we ever forget him?


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The Germans think it's been going on since 2002, but we know what a bunch of Commie liberals those Germans are.

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The US has been spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel's mobile phone since 2002, according to a report in Der Spiegel magazine.



Full article in BBC news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24690055
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http://minutemennews.com/2013/10/echoes-impeachment-nsa-scandal/ It's all about watching us, and not a word about spying on our allies in Europe or elsewhere. Wonder who he hasn't spied on.

I guess silence from the European skydiving community means it's OK, and we should relax. After all, this isn't 1939.



I'm nitpicking, but...

The Abwehr was a pretty bad intelligence service, which arguably made Germany lose the war (e.g: Intelligence estimating only 1/10th of the size of the Soviet Union infantry capabilities and 9,000 tanks instead of the actual figure of 23,000 tanks).

Hitler's infamous proclamation in October 1941 that the "Soviet Union will never rise again" essentially came from bad Abwehr intelligence info. The Germans essentially captured x3 more than the total estimated Soviet infantrymen estimated by the Abwehr; surely, the war is won if you captured x3 soldiers!


Not to mention that it was fully infiltrated by Soviet Agents by 1943.

That said, I would compare the Abwehr to the 2003 WMD scandal. Both poor intelligence leading to bad decision-making.

A more appropriate comparison would probably be KGB.

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***http://minutemennews.com/2013/10/echoes-impeachment-nsa-scandal/ It's all about watching us, and not a word about spying on our allies in Europe or elsewhere. Wonder who he hasn't spied on.

I guess silence from the European skydiving community means it's OK, and we should relax. After all, this isn't 1939.



I'm nitpicking, but...

The Abwehr was a pretty bad intelligence service, which arguably made Germany lose the war (e.g: Intelligence estimating only 1/10th of the size of the Soviet Union infantry capabilities and 9,000 tanks instead of the actual figure of 23,000 tanks).


Not to mention that it failed ever to detect that the Enigma codes were being read, and every German agent in Britain had been arrested or turned by 1941 and replaced with a Brit, thus enabling Operation Double Cross.
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******http://minutemennews.com/2013/10/echoes-impeachment-nsa-scandal/ It's all about watching us, and not a word about spying on our allies in Europe or elsewhere. Wonder who he hasn't spied on.

I guess silence from the European skydiving community means it's OK, and we should relax. After all, this isn't 1939.



Do you REALLY believe this only started in January 2009?

If so, I have a very nice bridge for sale, cheap.

Started earlier. But it sure as hell has been perfected.

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Lame response. Technology improves faster than societal controls can keep up.

The TITLE of the thread blames Obama, as might be expected from the OP and his source.
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***I'm just impressed that he basically Godwin'd the thread in the title. That's gotta be some sort of record.



Indeed. American serial racists are amazingly creative at thinking up cute euphemisms to express: "Nigger".It certainly takes little provocation to make you utter that despicable term, "race baiter".

The Germans are more "creative". So what will you call them? http://www.flickr.com/photos/23828985@N05/2451478958
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If you think he's in control of the country, I don't have a bridge to sell you, but I do have a couple of tickets on the Queen Mary to sell (better than the Titanic).



So he can have a pleasant cruise?

As comebacks go it's kinda lacking in edge, don't ya think?

You are correct. It was Queen Elizabeth (that caught on fire in Hong Kong Harbor) that I was thinking about. Don't tell me they refloated her.
Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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The Germans think it's been going on since 2002, but we know what a bunch of Commie liberals those Germans are.

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The US has been spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel's mobile phone since 2002, according to a report in Der Spiegel magazine.



Full article in BBC news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24690055

"Another report says Mr Obama was told in 2010 about the surveillance". Maybe the Germans can tell us how much the White House knew about about the IRS scandal.
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***The Germans think it's been going on since 2002, but we know what a bunch of Commie liberals those Germans are.

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The US has been spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel's mobile phone since 2002, according to a report in Der Spiegel magazine.



Full article in BBC news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24690055

"Another report says Mr Obama was told in 2010 about the surveillance". Maybe the Germans can tell us how much the White House knew about about the IRS scandal.

Last time I checked, 2002 came 8 years before 2010.
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******The Germans think it's been going on since 2002, but we know what a bunch of Commie liberals those Germans are.

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The US has been spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel's mobile phone since 2002, according to a report in Der Spiegel magazine.



Full article in BBC news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24690055

"Another report says Mr Obama was told in 2010 about the surveillance". Maybe the Germans can tell us how much the White House knew about about the IRS scandal.

Last time I checked, 2002 came 8 years before 2010.Last time I checked, George W Bush was president in 2002. Does that make it ok for Barack Hussein Obama to spy on German Chancellor Angela Merkel in 2010?
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*********The Germans think it's been going on since 2002, but we know what a bunch of Commie liberals those Germans are.

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The US has been spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel's mobile phone since 2002, according to a report in Der Spiegel magazine.



Full article in BBC news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24690055

"Another report says Mr Obama was told in 2010 about the surveillance". Maybe the Germans can tell us how much the White House knew about about the IRS scandal.

Last time I checked, 2002 came 8 years before 2010.Last time I checked, George W Bush was president in 2002. Does that make it ok for Barack Hussein Obama to spy on German Chancellor Angela Merkel in 2010?

No, and neither does it make it OK for you to pin the blame in your OP on a president you clearly hate, while there's not a word in your OP or your link about the president who actually created the mess.
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************The Germans think it's been going on since 2002, but we know what a bunch of Commie liberals those Germans are.

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The US has been spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel's mobile phone since 2002, according to a report in Der Spiegel magazine.



Full article in BBC news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24690055

"Another report says Mr Obama was told in 2010 about the surveillance". Maybe the Germans can tell us how much the White House knew about about the IRS scandal.

Last time I checked, 2002 came 8 years before 2010.Last time I checked, George W Bush was president in 2002. Does that make it ok for Barack Hussein Obama to spy on German Chancellor Angela Merkel in 2010?

No, and neither does it make it OK for you to pin the blame in your OP on a president you clearly hate, while there's not a word in your OP or your link about the president who actually created the mess. It doesn't matter who started this mess. He's still doing it and he singles out people who oppose his views/policies right here at home or abroad.

Funny how you seem to forget Watergate. Nixon, a Republican was removed from office for far less sinister spying activities. Would you agree that happened?

Both you and your friend's use of the word, "hate", imply you have nothing to stand on, and you see nothing wrong with what the man is doing to the country, but thanks for not using the "N" word and pulling the race card.
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***Jump more, hate less, Rick.

Once again, do you think the Germans are racist haters?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23828985@N05/2451478958

I'd hope that in modern Germany, just like in modern America, that for every frustrated tool who publicly acts out his hatred, there are at least 2 decent people who aren't haters. Maybe even 3.

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******Jump more, hate less, Rick.

Once again, do you think the Germans are racist haters?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23828985@N05/2451478958

I'd hope that in modern Germany, just like in modern America, that for every frustrated tool who publicly acts out his hatred, there are at least 2 decent people who aren't haters. Maybe even 3. When you run out of substance, it's the same MO for you: hate/racism. Just saying the President's full name seems to inflame your "lack" of nerve.

In your world it would have been ok if the German float depicted a republican couple, and in your world a spying rascal like Richard Nixon should be kicked out of office, but your favorite president can do no wrong.

It's over your head what Barack Hussin Obama has done. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/27/obama-knew-nsa-spying-on-merkel-and-approved-it-report-says-944692234/

"President Barack Obama knew of the organization’s spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel – and approved of the efforts, a National Security Agency official has reportedly told a German newspaper.

The Economic Times writes the “high-ranking” NSA official spoke to Bild am Sonntag on the condition of anonymity, saying the president, “not only did not stop the operation, but he also ordered it to continue.”

"According to The New York Times, Susan E. Rice, the president’s national security adviser, insisted that Obama did not know about the monitoring of Merkel’s phone, during a call last week with Christoph Heusgen, Rice’s German counterpart"

This is peanuts when compared to Benghazi (nope, it won't go away), Operation Fast and Furious, and the IRS Scandal (here to stay).

Ever wonder why a "high ranking" member of NSA ratted on this President? He/she must have been a racist. Right?
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