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RonD1120Doesn't a number divided by itself equal 1?
0 gods/0 gods = 1 God
Maths - F. Please revise further
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RonD1120Doesn't a number divided by itself equal 1?
Not as a general rule, no. As I said, zero as a number is more abstract than people usually give it credit for.
0/0 is undefined (meaning it doesn't have a defined value) and futhermore it's indeterminate (meaning, roughly, there's not even a way to figure out what values are near it.)
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I do sort of have an issue with Planck length/time. I find it disturbing the universe is analogue until it reaches a point at which it becomes binary. What it means is the computer being used to run this simulation has an extremely high resolution, but then even it has a limit. ;)
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Sounds like a pretty good argument for God if I ever heard one.
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Sounds like a pretty good argument for God if I ever heard one.
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I do sort of have an issue with Planck length/time. I find it disturbing the universe is analogue until it reaches a point at which it becomes binary. What it means is the computer being used to run this simulation has an extremely high resolution, but then even it has a limit. ;)
Sounds like a pretty good argument for God if I ever heard one.
Not by a LONG shot. The wink should be your clue it's a joke.
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Darius11Atheism in its foundation take the extreme view of there is no god. So it is extreme at the core like a hate group
Atheism: "disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods". (emphasis mine)
Lacking belief in something is not the same as a belief in the lack of something. You can lack belief in something simply by being ignorant of it. That is not extreme or hateful although attempting to tar all atheists with the same derogatory brush just might be.
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QuoteDo you believe we came from somewhere?
I believe in cause and effect, yes. That's not religion. I think your boiling down of religion is far too simplified. If religion stopped at, "we came from somewhere," then people wouldn't be killing each other over it. Religion (at least Abrahamaic ones) divide people into us and them, believers and infidels, good and evil.
QuoteI mean it comes from a root that is absolute, THERE IS NO GOD it leaves no room for interpretation no room to say we came from anything.
No, it means that I don't believe that we were designed by a higher power, and need to live our lives according to His will. That's it. You're hung up on this notion of something from nothing, but that's really not the root of it all.
QuoteI think that iron clad certainty is impossible to achieve we simply do not have enough evidence to make any definitive conclusions.
Do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God, sent from heaven to take on the sins of humanity, and only though Him can you enter into heaven? No? How can you take such an absolutist position without proof? How can you know for sure that isn't the truth?
What about Vishnu? Or Odin? Or Allah? How can you take such an absolutist position that they are not the one true God? Your beliefs (what ever they are) leave no room for interpretation either, you just don't seem to see it.
QuoteAs in comparison to a hate group is meant because of the lack of logic.
Logic is all I have. Just because you don't follow the logic doesn't mean it isn't there.
QuoteI can never explain to member of the KKK why there are good black people. When he comes from the absolute belief that anything a black person does is wrong and he hates him just for being black. So there is no place to start a debate of any sort. He is already sure
I think you misunderstand atheism. I don't wake up in the morning and think, "Today I'm going to hate God and religious people. Nothing anyone says can convince me otherwise." There's no active hate like the KKK. Frankly, I'd drop the hate group thing, it's pretty offensive.
QuoteNo I just mean being certain being 100% sure. I do not agree with that.
Atheist are as sure of their position as religious people are of theirs. Why is one extreme and not the other?
QuoteReligion doesn’t say there is a dude with a white beard living in the clouds that’s mans interpretation.
Since religion is man's creation, you can't separate the two like that.
QuoteIt just says we are created for a reason and there is a creator. What he/she/it is we have no clue as we are limited to our field of existence.
Really? I think most religious people would disagree. They seem to know quite well what God is like, and how he expects us to behave.
QuoteAre you an atheist?
Do you claim there is no god?
How did you logically reach that conclusion?
Yes. Yes. Same way you're concluded there are no unicorns.
QuoteI think most people are selfish and will change their point of view and do mental gymnastics whenever it is convenient for them regardless of their faith or lack of faith.
I agree.
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I find it shocking how those who have religious belief simply cannot see that their "choice" of religion is completely random.
If "faith" is the answer for why people believe then how on earth do they distinguish between all the tens of thousands of religions there have been, are and will be? They can't.
I have no problem with people living their lives like that. But when they hassle me about me lack of religious belief and expect to try and convert me to their religion then platitudes don't cut it.
There is no logical proof of a God and more importantly there is no way of working out which "God" it is.
But religious people tend to point to their book and say "it says its true in here". Well it says that in virtually every religious book in the world. How do you choose?
I find it shocking how those who have religious belief simply cannot see that their "choice" of religion is completely random.
If "faith" is the answer for why people believe then how on earth do they distinguish between all the tens of thousands of religions there have been, are and will be? They can't.
I have no problem with people living their lives like that. But when they hassle me about me lack of religious belief and expect to try and convert me to their religion then platitudes don't cut it.
There is no logical proof of a God and more importantly there is no way of working out which "God" it is.
But religious people tend to point to their book and say "it says its true in here". Well it says that in virtually every religious book in the world. How do you choose?
DanGQuoteDo you believe we came from somewhere?
I believe in cause and effect, yes. That's not religion. I think your boiling down of religion is far too simplified. If religion stopped at, "we came from somewhere," then people wouldn't be killing each other over it. Religion (at least Abrahamaic ones) divide people into us and them, believers and infidels, good and evil.QuoteI mean it comes from a root that is absolute, THERE IS NO GOD it leaves no room for interpretation no room to say we came from anything.
No, it means that I don't believe that we were designed by a higher power, and need to live our lives according to His will. That's it. You're hung up on this notion of something from nothing, but that's really not the root of it all.QuoteI think that iron clad certainty is impossible to achieve we simply do not have enough evidence to make any definitive conclusions.
Do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God, sent from heaven to take on the sins of humanity, and only though Him can you enter into heaven? No? How can you take such an absolutist position without proof? How can you know for sure that isn't the truth?
What about Vishnu? Or Odin? Or Allah? How can you take such an absolutist position that they are not the one true God? Your beliefs (what ever they are) leave no room for interpretation either, you just don't seem to see it.QuoteAs in comparison to a hate group is meant because of the lack of logic.
Logic is all I have. Just because you don't follow the logic doesn't mean it isn't there.QuoteI can never explain to member of the KKK why there are good black people. When he comes from the absolute belief that anything a black person does is wrong and he hates him just for being black. So there is no place to start a debate of any sort. He is already sure
I think you misunderstand atheism. I don't wake up in the morning and think, "Today I'm going to hate God and religious people. Nothing anyone says can convince me otherwise." There's no active hate like the KKK. Frankly, I'd drop the hate group thing, it's pretty offensive.QuoteNo I just mean being certain being 100% sure. I do not agree with that.
Atheist are as sure of their position as religious people are of theirs. Why is one extreme and not the other?QuoteReligion doesn’t say there is a dude with a white beard living in the clouds that’s mans interpretation.
Since religion is man's creation, you can't separate the two like that.QuoteIt just says we are created for a reason and there is a creator. What he/she/it is we have no clue as we are limited to our field of existence.
Really? I think most religious people would disagree. They seem to know quite well what God is like, and how he expects us to behave.QuoteAre you an atheist?
Do you claim there is no god?
How did you logically reach that conclusion?
Yes. Yes. Same way you're concluded there are no unicorns.QuoteI think most people are selfish and will change their point of view and do mental gymnastics whenever it is convenient for them regardless of their faith or lack of faith.
I agree.
0 gods/0 gods = 1 God
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