Well, who would have expected THIS?

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"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

Does that mean that soldiers/LEO asked to act on intelligence derived from these programs should refuse to do so?

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It's a simple matter of placing blame in the right place.

Yes, the Patriot act was signed by Bush. Recoding the meta data from private citizens was under Obama.

So recording the private data from private citizens is Obama's fault.

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It's a simple matter of placing blame in the right place.

Yes, the Patriot act was signed by Bush. Recoding the meta data from private citizens was under Obama.

So recording the private data from private citizens is Obama's fault.

Was done before 2006.

Warrantless wiretaps precede Obama too.

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It's a simple matter of placing blame in the right place.

Yes, the Patriot act was signed by Bush. Recoding the meta data from private citizens was under Obama.

So recording the private data from private citizens is Obama's fault.

Was done before 2006.

Warrantless wiretaps precede Obama too.

DAMN YOU PRESIDENT TRUMAN!

But But But . . . Britain did it first.

Must be Kallends Fault.

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Britain intercepted a message from Germany's foreign minister to an ambassador in Mexico City proposing that Mexico invade Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. Britain wanted to use this information to draw the United States into World War I without revealing their wiretapping technology. The British employed a spy in Mexico to obtain a paper copy of the message from the ambassador in Mexico City and pass it along to the United States. The trickery worked, and the United States entered the war.

Winston Churchill became involved in signals intelligence during World War I and would later use his knowledge to intercept messages from Italy, Japan and Germany during World War II. President Truman authorized wiretapping for security purposes after World War II in anticipation of problems with Russia.

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It's a simple matter of placing blame in the right place.

Yes, the Patriot act was signed by Bush. Recoding the meta data from private citizens was under Obama.

So recording the private data from private citizens is Obama's fault.

Was done before 2006.

Warrantless wiretaps precede Obama too.

I'd like to hear how you are going to blame Bush for this:

"The reforms President Obama announced today to a key section of the PATRIOT Act will still allow the government to collect telephone metadata on millions of Americans."

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/09/obama_nsa_reforms_still_allow_metadata_collection/

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It's a simple matter of placing blame in the right place.

Yes, the Patriot act was signed by Bush. Recoding the meta data from private citizens was under Obama.

So recording the private data from private citizens is Obama's fault.

Was done before 2006.

Warrantless wiretaps precede Obama too.

I'd like to hear how you are going to blame Bush for this:

"The reforms President Obama announced today to a key section of the PATRIOT Act will still allow the government to collect telephone metadata on millions of Americans."

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/09/obama_nsa_reforms_still_allow_metadata_collection/

So Obama is making needed reforms to an awful Act signed by Bush.

Kudos to Obama.

Let's hope he makes some more.

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It's a simple matter of placing blame in the right place.

Yes, the Patriot act was signed by Bush. Recoding the meta data from private citizens was under Obama.

So recording the private data from private citizens is Obama's fault.

Was done before 2006.

Warrantless wiretaps precede Obama too.

I'd like to hear how you are going to blame Bush for this:

"The reforms President Obama announced today to a key section of the PATRIOT Act will still allow the government to collect telephone metadata on millions of Americans."

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/09/obama_nsa_reforms_still_allow_metadata_collection/

It is a shield the current President/Missiah tactic
As a Democratic President (who is black by the way) can NOT be blamed for anything

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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The reforms President Obama announced today to a key section of the PATRIOT Act will still allow the government to collect telephone metadata on millions of Americans."

Missed this I guess

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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The reforms President Obama announced today to a key section of the PATRIOT Act will still allow the government to collect telephone metadata on millions of Americans."

Missed this I guess

Well, who would have expected that you didn't bother to read what was written BEFORE hitting "Post".

Seems like a bad habit of yours.

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The reforms President Obama announced today to a key section of the PATRIOT Act will still allow the government to collect telephone metadata on millions of Americans."

Missed this I guess

Well, who would have expected that you didn't bother to read what was written BEFORE hitting "Post".

Seems like a bad habit of yours.

kallend

So Obama is making needed reforms to an awful Act signed by Bush.

Kudos to Obama.

Let's hope he makes some more.

Yep
that is what I need to do

Bravo John
Bravo

Please, continue

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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So Obama is making needed reforms to an awful Act signed by Bush

Which allows it to continue and makes it bigger....

Wow, you will make excuses for anything Obama does and try to always blame it on Bush.

Bush did something stupid, Obama made it worse. Yet you make excuses for Obama....

WOW