jcd11235 0 #26 May 26, 2013 quadeIt's not like directed-energy weapons are going to be any lighter. They might be more stable.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #27 May 26, 2013 Andy9o8******As long as you people keep thinking in terms of primitive kinetic energy projectile weapons, you'll forever be stuck in the Dark Ages. It's not like directed-energy weapons are going to be any lighter. Oh ye of little vision... Have you ever lifted a car battery? Or are you suggesting something of a chemical nature; mace, etc?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #28 May 26, 2013 quadeHave you ever lifted a car battery? Or are you suggesting something of a chemical nature; mace, etc? Wouldn't lithium ion cells be a better choice for flight? The energy to weight and energy to volume ratios would be higher compared to a lead-acid battery. Lithium manganese oxide or LiFePO4 would probably be my top two choices for a fast draining application.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #29 May 26, 2013 We'd want billvon in on this one.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #30 May 26, 2013 quade*********As long as you people keep thinking in terms of primitive kinetic energy projectile weapons, you'll forever be stuck in the Dark Ages. It's not like directed-energy weapons are going to be any lighter. Oh ye of little vision... Have you ever lifted a car battery? Or are you suggesting something of a chemical nature; mace, etc? Sorry; my patent application is still pending. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,620 #31 May 26, 2013 jcd11235***Have you ever lifted a car battery? Or are you suggesting something of a chemical nature; mace, etc? Wouldn't lithium ion cells be a better choice for flight? The energy to weight and energy to volume ratios would be higher compared to a lead-acid battery. Lithium manganese oxide or LiFePO4 would probably be my top two choices for a fast draining application. All the UASs I know of (including both of mine) already use Li batteries. I know of none using any other battery type.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #32 May 26, 2013 quade***As long as you people keep thinking in terms of primitive kinetic energy projectile weapons, you'll forever be stuck in the Dark Ages. It's not like directed-energy weapons are going to be any lighter. The pentagon and history of science disagree with you. First it was impossible. Then it was immobile. Now it's ship based. Eventually it'll be vehicle mounted. Then handheld.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,620 #33 May 26, 2013 Kennedy******As long as you people keep thinking in terms of primitive kinetic energy projectile weapons, you'll forever be stuck in the Dark Ages. It's not like directed-energy weapons are going to be any lighter. The pentagon and history of science disagree with you. First it was impossible. Then it was immobile. Now it's ship based. Eventually it'll be vehicle mounted. Then handheld. You still have the 1st and 2nd Laws of thermodynamics to deal with.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #34 May 26, 2013 QuoteThen handheld. Not without paying me first, once my patent's granted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #35 May 26, 2013 QuoteYou still have the 1st and 2nd Laws of thermodynamics to deal with. I'm getting them repealed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #36 May 26, 2013 You mean the zeroth and the first? Or did you inten to bring in entropy and I missed something.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #37 May 26, 2013 Andy9o8 Quote You still have the 1st and 2nd Laws of thermodynamics to deal with. I'm getting them repealed. I was so very pleased you decided to drop in... You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #38 May 26, 2013 Operative word, "was"? quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #39 May 26, 2013 QuoteHave you ever lifted a car battery? Or are you suggesting something of a chemical nature; mace, etc? Screw the batteries. Squirrels will work for peanuts. Damn....exposed 908's patent application.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,620 #40 May 27, 2013 KennedyYou mean the zeroth and the first? Or did you inten to bring in entropy and I missed something. Think about it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #41 May 27, 2013 Andy9o8As long as you people keep thinking in terms of primitive kinetic energy projectile weapons, you'll forever be stuck in the Dark Ages. Although probably not what Andy meant, my first thought after reading his comment was: you don't have to work to hard to aim a grenade or a block of C4. Not exactly easy to define (or use) as a "self defense" weapon, but it would definitely make for reasonably affordable guided weapons. Elvisio "if my neighbor doesn't turn down his damn car stereo and leaves it parked in the street again..." Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #42 May 27, 2013 Claymores (or terrorist facsimile) are not that hard to come by for that sort of people, I'd imagine. Better than a grenade or C4. Not conducive to flyer survivability, though. And certainly not going to fall under the OP's "may be legal" area of interest.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #43 May 27, 2013 This is called the MQ-27 Dragonfire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDRYoTbD03E Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #44 May 27, 2013 That's called fiction.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr17Hz 1 #45 May 27, 2013 Building drones is a lot easier than you think. $1,500 and a few weeks and you can have a quadrotor, helicopter, or fixed wing aircraft that can fly exactly where you tell it to go where it can lock a GPS signal, indoor flight is still experimental and would require more R&D, but this stuff is VERY accessible. http://www.DIYDrones.com http://code.google.com/p/arducopter/Matt Christenson [email protected] http://www.RealDropzone.com - A new breed of dropzone manifest software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #46 May 27, 2013 Tell us something we DON'T know. Building a basic quad-copter just takes time, money and at least an average IQ. We're talking about the feasibility and legality of ARMING one (which is considerably different).quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #47 May 27, 2013 Kennedy That's called fiction. ------------------------------------------------------------- Actually its called Black Ops II Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #48 May 27, 2013 kallend***You mean the zeroth and the first? Or did you inten to bring in entropy and I missed something. Think about it. Geez...THAT was helpful.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,620 #49 May 27, 2013 popsjumper******You mean the zeroth and the first? Or did you inten to bring in entropy and I missed something. Think about it. Geez...THAT was helpful. Yep. Figuring things out for yourself is always better than having to be told.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #50 May 27, 2013 kallend *********You mean the zeroth and the first? Or did you inten to bring in entropy and I missed something. Think about it. Geez...THAT was helpful. Yep. Figuring things out for yourself is always better than having to be told. So, you're saying that there's no need for teachers and schools? (WooooHoooo!...an opportunity to use a bogus comeback. A skill learned from the pros.) Kennedy: Well, give me credit for at least trying to get a straight answer. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites