Mainstream media

[beowulf 1]

How much do you trust them?

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-05-14/5-reasons-both-mainstream-media-%E2%80%93-and-gatekeeper-%E2%80%9Calternative%E2%80%9D-websites-%E2%80%93-are

[rushmc 18]

beowulf

How much do you trust them?

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-05-14/5-reasons-both-mainstream-media-%E2%80%93-and-gatekeeper-%E2%80%9Calternative%E2%80%9D-websites-%E2%80%93-are

I have yet to open the link

And I can say, I trust no one in media or government

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[beowulf 1]

Then you would find it interesting.

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rushmc

***How much do you trust them?

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I have yet to open the link

And I can say, I trust no one in media or government

Neither do I, yet I looked at the information. It just cost too much to conduct investigative journalism so it's not done. Example: where did all the toxic debt go from the financial crisis and who got all the money? Was Lehman the bag holder and decided to take the fall?

[rushmc 18]

OHCHUTE

******How much do you trust them?

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I have yet to open the link

And I can say, I trust no one in media or government

Neither do I, yet I looked at the information. It just cost too much to conduct investigative journalism so it's not done. Example: where did all the toxic debt go from the financial crisis and who got all the money? Was Lehman the bag holder and decided to take the fall?

It is way way bigger than that

Look at government fraud
I think it is not poor management

It is direct payment
To both parties

Using the term fraud make diversion of billions palatable,

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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beowulf

How much do you trust them?

It depends on what you mean by the statement.

I do not, for instance, believe the mainstream media is a grand socialist conspiracy nor do I believe they are puppets of a capitalistic one. While there are legitimate arguements a that could be made leaning more or less toward individual media outlets, as a whole they do not function for any particular cause nor could they. Individuals, yes. As a whole, impossible.

To me, this is why it's so important to get your information from more than one source. So it can act as a check and balance against any one anomalous source.

Do I "trust" the mainstream media? Well, in the words of Reagan, "Trust, but verify."

All that said, I trust them more to tell me about certain things than others. When some assclown entertainment reporter comes on and tells me Star Trek opens this week, regardless how assclownish I believe that assclown to be (and face it all entertainment reporters are assclowns), yes, I trust him with THAT piece of information. Why? Mostly because it's so easily verifiable even the assclown can get it right. That said, I'm still going to check my local theater listings before heading out. Why? To verify it's showing.

Same with stocks, weather, basic news of the day.

Where I have a bit of heartburn is when somebody, even somebody who is very respectable and sitting at the anchor desk, is telling me something there is currently no way to verify. I'll try to note it and when further information becomes available, check a little box in my head as to what the person said was or wasn't true. If it is true, that person's trustworthiness goes slightly up and if not then it goes way down. Down further than it could have gone up.

Applying this to various networks and talking heads, I have some I pretty much implicitly trust because far more often than not in times of crisis they got it more right. And unfortunately, there are some I don't think I could trust to tell me if the sky was blue. But again, why? Because I've attempted to verify what they've said through other sources.

I'll tell you one type of person to almost universally distrust, somebody who writes under the pen name of a famous historical figure for his own political purposes as if doing so gives him the same credibility.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[weekender 0]

OHCHUTE

******How much do you trust them?

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I have yet to open the link

And I can say, I trust no one in media or government

Neither do I, yet I looked at the information. It just cost too much to conduct investigative journalism so it's not done. Example: where did all the toxic debt go from the financial crisis and who got all the money? Was Lehman the bag holder and decided to take the fall?

The debt is on the balance sheets of the banks that bought the failed banks. Its public information and published every quarter in the 10q. It did not vanish or go anywhere. It is written down against profits. This is all basic finance and can be found in any newspaper or by using a search engine. Nothing vanishes in math.

i post this for more reasonable readers as this gentlemen has repeated this fallacy many times and ignores the reality of math and accounting.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

[livendive 8]

I trust that they generally pursue their own best interests.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

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weekender

*********How much do you trust them?

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I have yet to open the link

And I can say, I trust no one in media or government

Neither do I, yet I looked at the information. It just cost too much to conduct investigative journalism so it's not done. Example: where did all the toxic debt go from the financial crisis and who got all the money? Was Lehman the bag holder and decided to take the fall?

The debt is on the balance sheets of the banks that bought the failed banks. Its public information and published every quarter in the 10q. It did not vanish or go anywhere. It is written down against profits. This is all basic finance and can be found in any newspaper or by using a search engine. Nothing vanishes in math.

i post this for more reasonable readers as this gentlemen has repeated this fallacy many times and ignores the reality of math and accounting.

Right, banks are carrying trillions of debt held against profits. If that were the case there wouldn't be a balance sheet as debt far outweighs profits.... I think you having little knowledge of how they did the ponzi... greatest bank robbery{US Treasury) and they didn't wear masks and carry guns.

[base698 1]

http://guardiannews.com/media/2013/apr/12/news-is-bad-rolf-dobelli

News misleads. Take the following event (borrowed from Nassim Taleb). A car drives over a bridge, and the bridge collapses. What does the news media focus on? The car. The person in the car. Where he came from. Where he planned to go. How he experienced the crash (if he survived). But that is all irrelevant. What's relevant? The structural stability of the bridge. That's the underlying risk that has been lurking, and could lurk in other bridges. But the car is flashy, it's dramatic, it's a person (non-abstract), and it's news that's cheap to produce. News leads us to walk around with the completely wrong risk map in our heads. So terrorism is over-rated. Chronic stress is under-rated. The collapse of Lehman Brothers is overrated. Fiscal irresponsibility is under-rated. Astronauts are over-rated. Nurses are under-rated.

[wmw999 2,116]

And all this is why I get most of my news from the newspaper, with some from NPR as well. I listen to others occasionally, but if it's important, it'll be in the newspaper the next day, and some of the information will have been verified. Particularly if the story is local.

If it's not important enough to make the paper, then it's not really worth my time to worry about it, either.

NPR because the stories tend to be longer, with more (at least perceived) depth.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)