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beowulf 1
QuoteQuoteIt doesn't matter if the article is right or wrong. It doesn't address the right question to support your claim, even if it is right.
Sure it does. It gives us an idea of the number of gun sales. You are assuming they are all repeat buyers or that people are getting rid of their guns as new gun buyers are buying gun. An assumption.
No, I'm not assuming anything. I'm simply going by what we know. Increased gun sales do not imply increased gun ownership. You are assuming, without supporting evidence, that they do.
Considering how many people I know who used to own a gun or two and now own small arsenals, I don't see any reason to disbelieve that gun ownership can decline while gun sales increase. While my own observations are not data, they also don't contradict data.
That is anecdotal evidence at best. It's not reasonable to think that the increased sales would not result in an increase in gun owners. Especially considering how big the increase has been in the NICS background checks.
Poll's and Surveys are not reliable.
beowulf 1
QuoteQuoteYour sources are not credible.
Polls and surveys can found to substantiate any claim you want. They are not credible sources of information. How many of those people lied? I think most gun owners would avoid answering a poll or survey asking about gun ownership.
Properly conducted polls and surveys are quite credible, actually. We already covered that, though.
Just because you say they are doesn't mean they are.
wmw999 2,116
What makes them unreliable?QuotePoll's and Surveys are not reliable
Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)
beowulf 1
QuoteQuoteIt doesn't matter if the article is right or wrong. It doesn't address the right question to support your claim, even if it is right.
Sure it does. It gives us an idea of the number of gun sales. You are assuming they are all repeat buyers or that people are getting rid of their guns as new gun buyers are buying gun. An assumption.
No, I'm not assuming anything. I'm simply going by what we know. Increased gun sales do not imply increased gun ownership. You are assuming, without supporting evidence, that they do.
Considering how many people I know who used to own a gun or two and now own small arsenals, I don't see any reason to disbelieve that gun ownership can decline while gun sales increase. While my own observations are not data, they also don't contradict data.
Your observation doesn't necessarily support your conclusions. There can be an increase in repeat buyers and new buyers.
jcd11235 0
QuoteThat is anecdotal evidence at best.
That's what I said.
QuoteIt's not reasonable to think that the increased sales would not result in an increase in gun owners.
It's not reasonable to assume they would without data, as you keep trying to do.
QuotePoll's and Surveys are not reliable.
They are more reliable than you seem willing to admit.
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beowulf 1
QuoteWhat makes them unreliable?QuotePoll's and Surveys are not reliable
Wendy P.
There is no obligation to answer them truthfully or even participate.
wmw999 2,116
They wouldn't be very anonymous if there were such a compulsion. And if they weren't anonymous, then they'd probably be even less honestly answered.
Regardless of what you feel about polls (assuming that your feelings are the same regardless of what the poll says), there are a ton of polls out there that have been conducted, and validated via later action.
Wendy P.
Regardless of what you feel about polls (assuming that your feelings are the same regardless of what the poll says), there are a ton of polls out there that have been conducted, and validated via later action.
Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)
beowulf 1
The only thing we really know for certain is that there has been a significant increase in NICS background checks, of which not all would result in a gun sale. Most would. So we can safely say that there has been a significant increase in gun sales. How many of them are repeat buyers or new gun buyers is not directly known. We do have anecdotal evidence of repeat gun buyers and an increase in women buying guns. I suspect that it' highly likely that there have been both repeat buyers and new buyers.
Polls and surveys only reflect those that were willing to answer them. Considering the distrust that people have in the government regarding gun ownership I think it's highly likely that many people would either not participate or answer truthfully.
Polls and surveys only reflect those that were willing to answer them. Considering the distrust that people have in the government regarding gun ownership I think it's highly likely that many people would either not participate or answer truthfully.
Properly conducted polls and surveys are quite credible, actually. We already covered that, though.
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