toolbox 0 #1 January 23, 2013 Just seen this special report. It seems Lanza did not use his mothers Bushmaster AR 15 in the school shooting,but instead had left it in the trunk of his mothers car. The police have known this from the beginning yet this information has just now been released. The special news report said Lanza had tried to buy a rifle but had to wait 14 days before he could recieve it. Lanza then according to official reports had stolen his mothers handguns and the rifle after killing her. The report states that 4 handguns were used in the school and no rifles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #2 January 23, 2013 Maybe you could link that to us so we're all on the same page in discussing it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolbox 0 #3 January 23, 2013 Hope this works: http://beforeitsnews.com/media/2013/01/nbc-admits-no-assault-rifle-used-at-sandy-hook-2451558.htmlQuote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GobbleGobble 0 #4 January 23, 2013 http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495 Better URL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 3 #5 January 23, 2013 I see no "admission" whatsoever. I do see newscasters reporting information during an on-going news story. Frequently information is sketchy and they report what they know at the moment. They can also be wrong on specific details. Attempting to use this clip to "prove" a government conspiracy would be a bit like using a reaction on a different radio station to prove aliens had landed in New Jersey in 1938. People panicked when they heard the Orson Welles' broadcast and there were widespread reactions to it. It was even reported by other radio stations. Doesn't mean it happened though. Before going into tin-foil hat conspiracy theory territory let's get the facts from a trial.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 18 #6 January 23, 2013 I have been following this story And is just keeps getting stranger QuoteDANBURY — A state Superior Court judge said Thursday that search warrant affidavits for the cars and home of Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter Adam Lanza and his mother would stay sealed for another 90 days. Judge John Blawie granted motions filed Wednesday by Danbury State’s Attorney Stephen Sedensky to extend the statutory sealing period for the five warrants, including three for the Yogonanda Street home where the 20-year-old Lanza fatally shot his mother, Nancy, four times in the face on the morning of Dec. 14, before embarking on the rampage that left 20 first-graders and six educators dead. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites labrys 0 #7 January 23, 2013 QuoteI do see newscasters reporting information during an on-going news story. Frequently information is sketchy and they report what they know at the moment. They can also be wrong on specific details. I heard later that video showed the weapon removed from the car's trunk was a shotgun. You're right. Wait for the trial.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites toolbox 0 #8 January 23, 2013 The report is from 12/15/2012,but I had not seen it until today when it was posted on another site 9 hours ago so I thought it was new. It is funny how I had seen so many reports on this story all pointing to the AR 15 as the weapon used, but I had never seen this report that stated otherwise. I never said anything about a conspiracy. I do feel there is alot of twisting and spinning of information used for political agendas though,and not just in the gun debate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 3 #9 January 23, 2013 QuoteI never said anything about a conspiracy. It's heavily implied by the video.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhaig 0 #10 January 23, 2013 Quote I heard later that video showed the weapon removed from the car's trunk was a shotgun. You're right. Wait for the trial. That video was pretty widely distributed. It looked like a saiga-12 to me.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ManagingPrime 0 #11 January 23, 2013 QuoteQuoteI do see newscasters reporting information during an on-going news story. Frequently information is sketchy and they report what they know at the moment. They can also be wrong on specific details. I heard later that video showed the weapon removed from the car's trunk was a shotgun. You're right. Wait for the trial. What trial? The shooters dead. This event has been so politicized I doubt the most factual narrative will be served on a silver platter prior to the next shooting which will grab the national headlines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites OHCHUTE 0 #12 January 23, 2013 Now that you are inquiring, must be a conspiracy. Lanza was the lone gunman and he used an AR. Get over it. End of story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 0 #13 January 23, 2013 QuoteLanza was the lone gunman Don't be a fool. Shots were fired from the grassy knoll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites regulator 0 #14 January 23, 2013 http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495 This video posted by gobblegobble was very precise in what it said. I didn't see any beating around the bush. 4 handguns recovered...only handguns AR-15 taken to school...but was in the car Tried to buy rifle and was denied. Had an altercation with 4 staff members previously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites regulator 0 #15 January 23, 2013 QuoteQuoteLanza was the lone gunman Don't be a fool. Shots were fired from the grassy knoll. ------------------------------------- that was awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 3 #16 January 23, 2013 Quotehttp://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495 This video posted by gobblegobble was very precise in what it said. I didn't see any beating around the bush. Which means precisely nothing about its accuracy.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ManagingPrime 0 #17 January 23, 2013 Quote Now that you are inquiring, must be a conspiracy. Lanza was the lone gunman and he used an AR. Get over it. End of story. Honestly, I could care less. Lone nut job. Lone sane person. Worked in a group. Conspiracy. AR, AK, single shot 22, RPG... I simply don't care. I don't trust this government or any government...nothing changes that. Narrative is probably quite close to the truth, but most lies are and god knows this government loves to lie. At the end of the day I take responsibility for myself and try to not get caught up in the madness. When I was living on the dropzone (lived in a tent for months) I would commute from the DZ to my day job at JPMC. On the drive there was a point where it was like crossing into a different world. I've been doing the big boy thing and living in the city for about a year now. Society is sick, but where are you going to run to? Who are you going to fight? I don't think anyone is actually interested in addressing the root causes of these issues. The debates are just a way of prolonging the spectacle and getting every bit of entertainment value that we can out of the events. We could debate all this crap in circles, round and round...or we could do something a little more profitable and fun. Heard of bounce bingo? I propose student body count bingo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,381 #18 January 24, 2013 Quote Quote Lanza was the lone gunman Don't be a fool. Shots were fired from the grassy knoll. This has the Cigarette Smoking Man's fingerprints all over it."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #19 January 24, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Lanza was the lone gunman Don't be a fool. Shots were fired from the grassy knoll. This has the Cigarette Smoking Man's fingerprints all over it. Technically possible. He could be as young as 70 if he was only 18 or so at the time. But he was a smoker, so. . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites regulator 0 #20 January 24, 2013 Remember chris If she smokes she pokes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #21 January 24, 2013 QuoteRemember chris If she smokes she pokesFunny how the misinformation strategy is working so well. I thought there was no reason to even consider an agenda based propaganda conspiracy. This as just put out today. I believe this article and its time of publishing lends credibility to the possibility of some major fact mishandling. I guess if it helps the weapons ban happen, untruths are acceptable.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,384 #22 January 24, 2013 >Funny how the misinformation strategy is working so well. If it sells just one more gun, it's all worth it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites regulator 0 #23 January 24, 2013 You can use any brush to paint it. An assault weapons ban is knee jerk, and STUPID. It will not reduce mass shootings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #24 January 24, 2013 QuoteYou can use any brush to paint it. An assault weapons ban is knee jerk, and STUPID. It will not reduce mass shootings. I believe that as well.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #25 January 24, 2013 Quote>Funny how the misinformation strategy is working so well. If it sells just one more gun, it's all worth it. Quote Sales of the AR-15 Bushmaster rifle — the kind used in the Dec. 14 school massacre in Sandy Hook —would be illegal under a federal assault weapon ban that Connecticut’s two U.S. senators and Newtown’s new congresswoman will help introduce Thursday in Washington. Sales is what they are angling for. You just have to read between the lines, right.? Connecticut Senators are conspiring with AR platform manufacturers to drive the price up for Max profits. 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GobbleGobble 0 #4 January 23, 2013 http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495 Better URL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #5 January 23, 2013 I see no "admission" whatsoever. I do see newscasters reporting information during an on-going news story. Frequently information is sketchy and they report what they know at the moment. They can also be wrong on specific details. Attempting to use this clip to "prove" a government conspiracy would be a bit like using a reaction on a different radio station to prove aliens had landed in New Jersey in 1938. People panicked when they heard the Orson Welles' broadcast and there were widespread reactions to it. It was even reported by other radio stations. Doesn't mean it happened though. Before going into tin-foil hat conspiracy theory territory let's get the facts from a trial.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #6 January 23, 2013 I have been following this story And is just keeps getting stranger QuoteDANBURY — A state Superior Court judge said Thursday that search warrant affidavits for the cars and home of Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter Adam Lanza and his mother would stay sealed for another 90 days. Judge John Blawie granted motions filed Wednesday by Danbury State’s Attorney Stephen Sedensky to extend the statutory sealing period for the five warrants, including three for the Yogonanda Street home where the 20-year-old Lanza fatally shot his mother, Nancy, four times in the face on the morning of Dec. 14, before embarking on the rampage that left 20 first-graders and six educators dead. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #7 January 23, 2013 QuoteI do see newscasters reporting information during an on-going news story. Frequently information is sketchy and they report what they know at the moment. They can also be wrong on specific details. I heard later that video showed the weapon removed from the car's trunk was a shotgun. You're right. Wait for the trial.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolbox 0 #8 January 23, 2013 The report is from 12/15/2012,but I had not seen it until today when it was posted on another site 9 hours ago so I thought it was new. It is funny how I had seen so many reports on this story all pointing to the AR 15 as the weapon used, but I had never seen this report that stated otherwise. I never said anything about a conspiracy. I do feel there is alot of twisting and spinning of information used for political agendas though,and not just in the gun debate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #9 January 23, 2013 QuoteI never said anything about a conspiracy. It's heavily implied by the video.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #10 January 23, 2013 Quote I heard later that video showed the weapon removed from the car's trunk was a shotgun. You're right. Wait for the trial. That video was pretty widely distributed. It looked like a saiga-12 to me.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManagingPrime 0 #11 January 23, 2013 QuoteQuoteI do see newscasters reporting information during an on-going news story. Frequently information is sketchy and they report what they know at the moment. They can also be wrong on specific details. I heard later that video showed the weapon removed from the car's trunk was a shotgun. You're right. Wait for the trial. What trial? The shooters dead. This event has been so politicized I doubt the most factual narrative will be served on a silver platter prior to the next shooting which will grab the national headlines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #12 January 23, 2013 Now that you are inquiring, must be a conspiracy. Lanza was the lone gunman and he used an AR. Get over it. End of story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #13 January 23, 2013 QuoteLanza was the lone gunman Don't be a fool. Shots were fired from the grassy knoll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #14 January 23, 2013 http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495 This video posted by gobblegobble was very precise in what it said. I didn't see any beating around the bush. 4 handguns recovered...only handguns AR-15 taken to school...but was in the car Tried to buy rifle and was denied. Had an altercation with 4 staff members previously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #15 January 23, 2013 QuoteQuoteLanza was the lone gunman Don't be a fool. Shots were fired from the grassy knoll. ------------------------------------- that was awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #16 January 23, 2013 Quotehttp://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495 This video posted by gobblegobble was very precise in what it said. I didn't see any beating around the bush. Which means precisely nothing about its accuracy.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManagingPrime 0 #17 January 23, 2013 Quote Now that you are inquiring, must be a conspiracy. Lanza was the lone gunman and he used an AR. Get over it. End of story. Honestly, I could care less. Lone nut job. Lone sane person. Worked in a group. Conspiracy. AR, AK, single shot 22, RPG... I simply don't care. I don't trust this government or any government...nothing changes that. Narrative is probably quite close to the truth, but most lies are and god knows this government loves to lie. At the end of the day I take responsibility for myself and try to not get caught up in the madness. When I was living on the dropzone (lived in a tent for months) I would commute from the DZ to my day job at JPMC. On the drive there was a point where it was like crossing into a different world. I've been doing the big boy thing and living in the city for about a year now. Society is sick, but where are you going to run to? Who are you going to fight? I don't think anyone is actually interested in addressing the root causes of these issues. The debates are just a way of prolonging the spectacle and getting every bit of entertainment value that we can out of the events. We could debate all this crap in circles, round and round...or we could do something a little more profitable and fun. Heard of bounce bingo? I propose student body count bingo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,381 #18 January 24, 2013 Quote Quote Lanza was the lone gunman Don't be a fool. Shots were fired from the grassy knoll. This has the Cigarette Smoking Man's fingerprints all over it."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #19 January 24, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Lanza was the lone gunman Don't be a fool. Shots were fired from the grassy knoll. This has the Cigarette Smoking Man's fingerprints all over it. Technically possible. He could be as young as 70 if he was only 18 or so at the time. But he was a smoker, so. . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #20 January 24, 2013 Remember chris If she smokes she pokes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #21 January 24, 2013 QuoteRemember chris If she smokes she pokesFunny how the misinformation strategy is working so well. I thought there was no reason to even consider an agenda based propaganda conspiracy. This as just put out today. I believe this article and its time of publishing lends credibility to the possibility of some major fact mishandling. I guess if it helps the weapons ban happen, untruths are acceptable.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #22 January 24, 2013 >Funny how the misinformation strategy is working so well. If it sells just one more gun, it's all worth it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #23 January 24, 2013 You can use any brush to paint it. An assault weapons ban is knee jerk, and STUPID. It will not reduce mass shootings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #24 January 24, 2013 QuoteYou can use any brush to paint it. An assault weapons ban is knee jerk, and STUPID. It will not reduce mass shootings. I believe that as well.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #25 January 24, 2013 Quote>Funny how the misinformation strategy is working so well. If it sells just one more gun, it's all worth it. Quote Sales of the AR-15 Bushmaster rifle — the kind used in the Dec. 14 school massacre in Sandy Hook —would be illegal under a federal assault weapon ban that Connecticut’s two U.S. senators and Newtown’s new congresswoman will help introduce Thursday in Washington. Sales is what they are angling for. You just have to read between the lines, right.? Connecticut Senators are conspiring with AR platform manufacturers to drive the price up for Max profits. Its so obvious now.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
